'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#710 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
well at least you finally admitted it. Now don't go around telling people you were a Christian when you weren't.
I was, once a christian as you are now -- I used to believe in your myth-jesus.

Now I know better.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#711 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
..Don't be lost for eternity simply because you let all this atheist talk get into your head...
On what evidence? Can anyone prove a single case of someone going to heaven and living for eternity. Or show evidence of someone going to hell and being tortured for eternity. And why would a God want to be so cruel to burn people with fire for eternity anyway? Sure it would be great to live forever in paradise, but no one has ever had any proof at all that these places exist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#712 Aug 2, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Well I can't do anything but say it that way. I was "saved" and believed at the time and I was a follower for 20 years up until 2 years ago.... I can't say I was faking it for 20 years because I genuinely believed, but it really makes no difference.
You were as christian as he is now-- likely more so.

You certainly appear to be more kind than he-- closer to the ideals of the legend.

In contrast to his spiteful attitude.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#713 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
I think you need to take a cold, hard look at your life. Atheism is a dead end road to nowhere.
How on EARTH would YOU know?

The only time you were an atheist, you were also unable to speak (an infant).

You really have no clue... atheism is the future. Your quaint hate-cult is dying, as all such superstitions have in the past.

Do you know any Druids? See? Dies off, as people come to realize it's all fake.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#714 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you need to do more research and stop being influenced by people that are only looking at reasons not to believe in God.
Do you have a reason TO believe in your ugly terrorist-god who uses TORTURE to get and keep followers?

... an ugly cult.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#715 Aug 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Do you have a reason TO believe in your ugly terrorist-god who uses TORTURE to get and keep followers?
... an ugly cult.
When you put it like that, then yes its difficult to believe that >anyone< could worship such a monster. So they resort to cherry picking the bits they like and ignoring the nasty stuff.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#716 Aug 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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It's one of the Classic Lies they are forced to say as little kids-- back when they still knew it WAS a lie.
Yep. Most of the trolls here will say WE are the ones that have been indoctrinated! I came to my atheism on my own after having been taught religion since birth simply by actually thinking about it while actually reading the entire bible. It was after I started reading the bible that the questions I started asking of my parents and religion teachers would cause the hemming and hawing and embarrassed looks. I would usually get directed to our priest. When asked those same questions, our priest would launch into a freaking sermon style speech in which he talked so much, in so many circles, for so long that he never actually answered my questions in a meaningful way. It always boiled down to "god works in mysterious ways" (which, apparently, is only mysterious when the priest didn't have a standard answer) or "our is not to question the will of the lord". The more that happened, the more I was able to see what a crock it all was.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#717 Aug 2, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I agree. I would have elaborated, but I'm growing tired of talking to this troll. It's a waste of time. I always end up saying the same thing. "your on an atheist forum, you need to go back to the christian forum". This one just wants to argue, and say the sme things that all of the other ones say when they come here. "All atheists say the same thing" (funny how that works both ways)... "All of you deep down believe in God"...(yeah, that's why we come to the atheist forum. We want to worship the "god" that we don't believe in.) "Why do atheists talk about "god" so much if they don't believe in him?" (Well because you keep bringing your religious a** over here and cluttering up our forum, so so we do the same thing that we have to do in the real world, and fight for our own place away from all of the insanity of religion!) lol.... Same ole same ole.... Nice to meet ya by the way.:)
Spot on!

Nice to meet you too!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#718 Aug 2, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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How is it ironic that I was a christian and now I'm not??? However yes, I grew up in church so I did follow in my church families footsteps and get "saved". At the time it was an innocent and emotional decision. Now that I am older and have done my own research and have actually had time to live in the real world...I have made the choice to not be a christian.
When you can allow yourself to question what you've been told was true, and actually applying logic and reason, the lies of religion become glaringly apparent.

There is a reason "faith" (belief without evidence) is puffed-up and harped on as something special... without it, religion can't sell their product.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#719 Aug 2, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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and don't tell me what to do ;0)
Fundie-christians are all about telling others what to do

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#720 Aug 2, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I have already....I decided a couple of years ago that I can't put my faith in something that is an obvious copy of other religions, and also in something that (after actually reading the bible) doesn't make sense.
Back in the days before the printing press was invented, priests had all the power because they were the only ones that had "the book"! Today, they still have power even though there is a bible in virtually every religious person's home simply because the vast majority of 'believers' will never actually read the thing they claim to base their lives on.
Amused

Clinton, MA

#721 Aug 2, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Back in the days before the printing press was invented, priests had all the power because they were the only ones that had "the book"! Today, they still have power even though there is a bible in virtually every religious person's home simply because the vast majority of 'believers' will never actually read the thing they claim to base their lives on.
They base their lives on fresh air. That bible makes a great doorstop. The front door will stay open in anything less than gale force winds. It's also handy for getting things off the top shelf of the kitchen cabinet.
Amused

Clinton, MA

#722 Aug 2, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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When you put it like that, then yes its difficult to believe that >anyone< could worship such a monster. So they resort to cherry picking the bits they like and ignoring the nasty stuff.
Part of the indoctrination process is what I call the True Believer Secret Decoder Ring approach. Believers are taught that the ugly passages and the passages that are inconsistent with their faith mean something other than what the normal literate person would take them to mean, based on the use of standard definitions and rules of grammar. The inconvenient passages, the believer is told, mean something else, the dictionary and grammar books be damned.
Amused

Clinton, MA

#723 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
again.......thanks for providing a great example of an atheist. They are all legends in their own minds. Pitiful
Atheists are easy to spot. We're the ones intelligent enough to use the reply function.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#724 Aug 2, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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When you put it like that, then yes its difficult to believe that >anyone< could worship such a monster. So they resort to cherry picking the bits they like and ignoring the nasty stuff.
Hence their aversion to actually reading the book they claim to live their lives by

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#725 Aug 2, 2013
Amused wrote:
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They base their lives on fresh air. That bible makes a great doorstop. The front door will stay open in anything less than gale force winds. It's also handy for getting things off the top shelf of the kitchen cabinet.
LOL! Sadly, most christians revere the book so much that they are afraid to actually open it.
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#726 Aug 2, 2013
would the discovery of aliens disprove religions or strengthen them?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/alie...
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#727 Aug 2, 2013
More and more people being raised with the absence of religion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-cox/born...
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#728 Aug 2, 2013
see you.....if you think about it....this world/universe starting randomly and evolving just is way too far fetched. I mean what are the chances??? To me thats even more unbelievable then a God could ever be. The odds are just too great against it. It couldn't have happened. I'm curious how old you are

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#729 Aug 2, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
see you.....if you think about it....this world/universe starting randomly and evolving just is way too far fetched. I mean what are the chances??? To me thats even more unbelievable then a God could ever be. The odds are just too great against it. It couldn't have happened. I'm curious how old you are
Shuffle a deck of cards. Lay them out face up in a row. Calculate the odds of that exact sequence coming up. Astronomical against it happening... yet there they are.

Calculating the odds of something happening after they have happened is pretty pointless, don't you think?

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