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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6195 Mar 19, 2014
did you just say Christian Science? One of the biggest cults there is?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#6196 Mar 19, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Steven Hawking looks like an orangutan.
But he doesn't act like a CINO.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6197 Mar 19, 2014
CINO? Must be another atheist term. I take it back, he actually looks like a 20 yr old English bulldog.
Thinking

Cupar, UK

#6198 Mar 19, 2014
Call theology what you will.

If it doesn't diligently obey the scientific method correctly it is not scientific.
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I completely disagree. It involves many sciences. Science is the study of the natural world.
Man is of nature. There is a science of man.-- Biology ( but many more)
Man can and will kill. There is a science for killing.-- Phycology ( and a few more)
War is the most effective way to kill.-- Military Science ( also an art)
What has caused more wars in World History? Religion -- Theology
If you don't believe me now, you can always go to a Christian SCIENCE Reading Room, and research it for yourself.
Thinking

Cupar, UK

#6199 Mar 19, 2014
The bible says it is OK for religitards like antiatheist to abuse the disabled.
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
But he doesn't act like a CINO.

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#6200 Mar 19, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
CINO? Must be another atheist term. I take it back, he actually looks like a 20 yr old English bulldog.
CINO. Christian In Name Only.
If Jesus was to come back and didn't resemble that brown haired white European dude you've (supposedly) grown up adoring in paintings...

What is the topic again? Being charitable?
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6201 Mar 19, 2014
Its actually so much fun making fun of you guys. You aren't used to it I can tell. All of the sudden you are an expert on what it means to be a Christian. This coming from someone that thinks Hitler was one.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#6202 Mar 19, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Its actually so much fun making fun of you guys. You aren't used to it I can tell. All of the sudden you are an expert on what it means to be a Christian. This coming from someone that thinks Hitler was one.
By the evidence of the thread posts, it seems that just about everybody here has a better handle on what a Christian is than you do. Not -saying- you're ignurunt and hateful, but it looks like your handle sums up just about all you've got to offer.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6203 Mar 19, 2014
forgive me but I don't put much weight on your view of what it means to be a Christian. You are all atheists.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#6204 Mar 19, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
forgive me but I don't put much weight on your view of what it means to be a Christian. You are all atheists.
I can't say as I blame you. From an atheistic point of view, the word "Christian" covers a very wide range of religious points of view--anyone who centers their belief on any interpretation of the New Testament, however bizarre, qualifies. But for you, the term signifies much more specific values, beliefs, and spiritual states of being. Atheists take anyone claiming to be a Christian at their word, but you require closer adherence to your own take on Christ's teachings.

Similarly, few atheists are likely to accept your definition of atheism. You probably have overly specific ideas about who atheists are and what they believe, but most of the atheists with whom I've had close intellectual contact have a much more general idea, i.e., anyone who one some level rejects religious teachings about any of the deities that people believe in. Some are skeptics, others as dogmatic as any true believer. As much as many of us would like to believe differently, atheism encompasses a huge range of belief, disbelief, or nonbelief, and not all of us are scholarly or even all that rational. That's why atheists can no more be united under the same banner than can the many who call themselves Christians.

My experience with Christians is that most think that only those who believe as they do are truly Christian--the whole "many are called but few are chosen" thing. Does that describe you as well? If so, what, in your view, separates the sheep from the goats?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#6205 Mar 19, 2014
Do you remember, by the way, that after your wrote:

"good grief..........being "religious" doesn't mean you are a Christian. Many nuts throughout time have been religious but that certainly doesn't mean they are Christians. Atheists are "religious" as are many other nutty groups of people.

"Have you ever heard of a sheep in wolves clothing? False prophets perhaps? David Koresh claimed to be a Christian as have many other evil people. For you to use them as examples of a Christian is idiotic at best and only shows desperation on your part."

I responded, "How do you define "religious" in this context?"

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#6206 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
forgive me but I don't put much weight on your view of what it means to be a Christian. You are all atheists.
Many of us WERE Christians. We studied the gospel and lived the lifestyle. Many of us were better Christians than yourself. We know what its like to be a Christian.
You have never been an atheist so according to your own reasoning you shouldn't say another word about atheists because
"forgive me but I don't put much weight on your view of what it means "
Correct?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#6207 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Who are any of you to tell someone else how to raise their children?
A two edged question. Who are you to impose your brand of theology on others' children? What I said is that it is NOT alright to abuse the public trust or children. If you've got a problem with that, tell it to a cop.
antiatheist wrote:
So now Obama and every other president we have had is just lying about their belief in God? Ha........you guys are amazing. Your only defense is that if intelligent people believe in God then they must be lying.
That is not at all what I said. You either don't comprehend or you cannot be honest. A proclaimed atheist cannot "survive" the election process to hold the highest office. Whether every president >privately believed< in church doctrine or not is beside the point. Intelligence is not a barrier to believing in church doctrine. Intelligence does not equate to being rational. What did I reference is that statistically, the nation's lowest academic scores and the Bible belt are practically the same map.
antiatheist wrote:
The apolostles knew Jesus personally. They wrote about him after his death and resurection. So what? This is a reason to discount them simply because they didn't write about him when he was alive? That makes no sense.
We could go through the authorship of the NT gospel by gospel, but it would accomplish nothing. You have decided that just because a book has an apostle's name as the title, that apostle actually wrote or dictated his own book. That isn't how it worked.
antiatheist wrote:
chromium I'm not going to do the work for you. Many others wrote about Jesus so take the time to look them up. Why are atheists so lazy? Half of what you guys so it just totally made up. Tithing to be a member of a church? lol totally made up. Never heard that before in my life.
Millions of people have written "about" Jesus. That means nothing. I asked for any of your many first hand records and you've provided... nothing. Why can't you just be honest?
Over 40% of the leaders polled in the National Association of Evangelicals believes tithing is a biblical requirement. The LDS may not officially "require" a 10% tithe, but it is strenuously recommended. Ask Mitt.
Thinking

Oxford, UK

#6208 Mar 20, 2014
I know you think Hitler was a christian. So what?
antiatheist wrote:
Its actually so much fun making fun of you guys. You aren't used to it I can tell. All of the sudden you are an expert on what it means to be a Christian. This coming from someone that thinks Hitler was one.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6209 Mar 20, 2014
Being a Christian means you have accepted Jesus as your savior. You accepted Jesus as your savior at one time Angel? If not, then you were not a Christian. If so, then you admit you once knew Jesus and now you say you no longer no Him. You make no sense
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#6210 Mar 20, 2014
Nightserf.........anyone that has asked Christ for forgiveness and accepted Him as their savior is a Christian regardless of denomination, etc. Its not about being "religious" or how charitable a person is.

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#6211 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Being a Christian means you have accepted Jesus as your savior. You accepted Jesus as your savior at one time Angel? If not, then you were not a Christian. If so, then you admit you once knew Jesus and now you say you no longer no Him. You make no sense
I use to put out milk and cookies for Santa too.

1st Cor 13:11
When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.

“BAS in Electrical Engineering”

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#6212 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Being a Christian means you have accepted Jesus as your savior. You accepted Jesus as your savior at one time Angel? If not, then you were not a Christian. If so, then you admit you once knew Jesus and now you say you no longer no Him. You make no sense
How do you know someone that doesn't speak back or exist in this world?

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#6213 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Nightserf.........anyone that has asked Christ for forgiveness and accepted Him as their savior is a Christian regardless of denomination, etc. Its not about being "religious" or how charitable a person is.
I dont need kind of forgiveness nor will I ask for it because I have done nothing wrong. I lead a great life, full of joy and happiness. I help and love my neighbor. If he were really a god , he would know that.

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#6214 Mar 20, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
You accepted Jesus as your savior at one time Angel?
Yes, Baptism, Accepting Christ, Memorizing Scripture, Church Camp, Lock-ins, Prayer Groups etc. I did all that stuff. I even went to private Christian school. It was a Church/School. I literally went to church 7 days a week.

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