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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#5587 Feb 14, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
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And here we have the prime example of why there are seminaries.
Without a theological education, you get self-righteous demagogues.
Ones like Jack who believes that meritorious actions are required for
justification.
We can be certain on which side of the Reformation he would have
been. Burn more Reformers, Jack.
Faith saves, not actions, Jack.
What can you POSSIBLY learn in a Seminary that isn't taught to children in Sunday School? They just use bigger words or something? I can visualize the curriculum ... INDUCING HALLUCINATIONS 101, THE BASICS OF SUSPENDED DISBELIEF, THE ART OF DECEPTION or HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE, ILLOGIC FOR NON-VULCANS ...
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5588 Feb 14, 2014
RHill wrote:
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What can you POSSIBLY learn in a Seminary that isn't taught to
children in Sunday School? They just use bigger words or something?
You're so right, education past the 6th grade was a waste on you.
Everything you needed to know you learned in 1st grade ( Oklahoma
didn't require kindergarten until 2011 ).

Texas required kindergarten starting in 1975.

Few people will admit as you have that they have no use for big words.
Confession ( a big word you need to look up ) is good for the soul.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5589 Feb 14, 2014
Joyce wrote:
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Through faith a person has the strength to carry out ACTIONS of faith.
Jack is correct according to the Holy Bible.
Try thinking about it!
There is **nothing** good or useful about faith that is unfounded or is based on lies.

Nothing.

You could have all the faith in the universe, that you have the ability to fly by flapping your ears.

But if you step out of that 3rd story window? No matter how much **faith** you had?

And no matter how hard you flapped?

You are still going to fall to the ground--*splat*

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5590 Feb 14, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
Faith saves, not actions, Jack.
Faith in **what**?

You can truly believe that magical green leprechauns are going to pay your electric bill.

You can have as much faith in that as you like.

But it won't keep your electricity from being cut off, for non-payment.

Faith in stupid bs is just insane.

As is the case with all religious faith-- it's based in bs.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5592 Feb 14, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
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My electricity has not been cut off!
Guess your argument is BS...
Did God pay your bill for you?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#5593 Feb 15, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
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You're so right, education past the 6th grade was a waste on you.
Everything you needed to know you learned in 1st grade ( Oklahoma
didn't require kindergarten until 2011 ).
Texas required kindergarten starting in 1975.
Few people will admit as you have that they have no use for big words.
Confession ( a big word you need to look up ) is good for the soul.
A blistering retort from the Peanut Gallery! But ... you didn't really answer my question (don't worry ... no surprise there)...

What could they possibly teach in "seminary" or in a "theological education" that could be more than a (more) exhaustive analysis of the tired old stories in your Holy Book? I mean, it ain't exactly Rocket Science. You boil The Bible down to it's essence and that powdery residue would scarce fill a thimble! How y'all struggle to give it some kind of meaning ... pitiful.

I'm not trying to be mean! Inquiring minds want to know!
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5594 Feb 15, 2014
RHill wrote:
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What could they possibly teach in "seminary" or in a "theological education" that could be more than a (more) exhaustive analysis of the tired old stories in your Holy Book? I mean, it ain't exactly Rocket Science.
Hopefully you don't have neighbors.
If your house disappears in an explosion,
no one will be surprised. Accidents happen
to Rednecks without an education.

Try to avoid electricity, it's dangerous to fools.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5595 Feb 15, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
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My electricity has not been cut off!
Guess your argument is BS...
Because you pay your bill-- INSTEAD of praying about it.

It's 100% proof that you really do not believe in the promises of your religion.

Thanks for playing!

You lose-- as per your usual habit.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5596 Feb 15, 2014
I_see_you wrote:
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Did God pay your bill for you?
Of course not-- he does not believe, down deep.

None of these liars do-- they are all full of doubts.

That's why the come here-- to try to convince themselves their faith isn't a joke.

I pity them.

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#5597 Feb 15, 2014

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5598 Feb 15, 2014
AngelAngle wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mmXpJuEnNnwXX
Effing brilliant!

Love it!

LOL!
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5599 Feb 16, 2014
oh no angel is sooooo sensitive. Hate speech?? lol don't make me laugh.

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Agnostic

Oklahoma City, OK

#5600 Feb 16, 2014
Snake Kills Snake-Handler Preacher

This is why reptiles don't work well with religious services. Jamie Coots, a third-generation snake handler who pastored a small church in Kentucky, died yesterday after he was biten by a snake and subsequently refusted treatment.

Coots had gained fame through his National Geographic show Snake Salvation. Coots had been bitten by snakes before during his spiritual ministering: after he survived a 1998 bite without treatment, he said "It's a victory to God's people that the Lord seen fit to bring me through it.”

His right arm swelled to his shoulder and his middle finger died and fell off after that bite.

Snake-handlers believe they are following a religious command, based on Mark: 16 17-18:

“And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents."

And the Darwin award goes to..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#5601 Feb 16, 2014
Agnostic wrote:
Snake Kills Snake-Handler Preacher
This is why reptiles don't work well with religious services. Jamie Coots, a third-generation snake handler who pastored a small church in Kentucky, died yesterday after he was biten by a snake and subsequently refusted treatment.
Coots had gained fame through his National Geographic show Snake Salvation. Coots had been bitten by snakes before during his spiritual ministering: after he survived a 1998 bite without treatment, he said "It's a victory to God's people that the Lord seen fit to bring me through it.”
His right arm swelled to his shoulder and his middle finger died and fell off after that bite.
Snake-handlers believe they are following a religious command, based on Mark: 16 17-18:
“And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents."
And the Darwin award goes to..
Indeed.

In many ways, this snake-eater is **more** honest than most religious nutters.

He was willing to frikkin'**die** for his idiotic beliefs.

You gotta hand **that** to him, at least-- he's willing to put his faith to the test.

Your average True Believer™? Not so much-- proof? They buy insurance...

... LMAO!

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#5602 Feb 17, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Effing brilliant!
Love it!
LOL!
Darkmatter puts out some awesome stuff. always well written.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5604 Feb 17, 2014
is this honestly the best you guys can come up with

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“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#5605 Feb 17, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
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Hopefully you don't have neighbors.
If your house disappears in an explosion,
no one will be surprised. Accidents happen
to Rednecks without an education.
Try to avoid electricity, it's dangerous to fools.
One of my neighbors, a devout Christian who regularly attends a fundie "charismatic" church, just got carted off for psychiatric evaluation and care after trashing his house. Guess that's your 'Lord' showing off his 'mysterious ways' again.'Course, I'd call anybody listening to 'small, still voices' in their head a little off kilter. But that's just me. You may be relieved to know that after 40+ years as an Electronics Technician, I command electrons and they do MY bidding! Only blown up a few things in all that time. When a device's time is up ... it's up. I am just an instrument of fate in those rare circumstances.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#5606 Feb 17, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
is this honestly the best you guys can come up with
I think we give as good as we get there Mr "antiatheist". It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're talk'n to turkeys! How about laying out your salient points and we'll go over them again. Start with your non-subjective, non-anecdotal experiences of God's participation in our everyday lives.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#5607 Feb 17, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
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You're so right, education past the 6th grade was a waste on you.
Everything you needed to know you learned in 1st grade ( Oklahoma
didn't require kindergarten until 2011 ).
Texas required kindergarten starting in 1975.
Few people will admit as you have that they have no use for big words.
Confession ( a big word you need to look up ) is good for the soul.
Isn't "confession" to an 'all seeing' deity kind of pointless? I mean, as far as the deity is concerned. Now, the therapeutic value of getting something 'off of one's chest' is well known, but a good friend and mug of cold beer will work that 'magic' without need for a supernatural component. Public education gave me the necessary tools to educate myself and for this I will be forever grateful. Not sure they're still doing that.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5608 Feb 18, 2014
God allows you to exists hill. Thats a miracle and a great act of mercy.

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