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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5309 Feb 1, 2014
JPL wrote:
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Being a member of some organized religion won't make the grade either. Religion doesn't get you anywhere but more informed about the principals of religion. Organized religion, can educate you about religion and religious principals but none of them can make you achieve a relationship and connectedness to Jesus Christ and GOD the father.
Pass up organized religion and go instead for a mystic relationship with
the fad du jour. Find your own Jim Jones. Contemplate the mystery of
the three headed one God with drugs. Find yourself, yourself.

Only do your finding in private, no one wants to see you stroking your
ecstasy.

In my organized church, we have coffee and pastries during the service.
That's very understandable.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5310 Feb 1, 2014
order the murder of jews and you still make it into heaven? Are you guys really this crazy in real life?
JPL

United States

#5311 Feb 1, 2014
Jim wrote:
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Foolish empty threat coming from your imagination. Your hallucinations have absolutely no effect on me.
They don't have any effect on anyone, because god isn't real and you need help
What threat? Did someone threaten you please let us all know who it was? Hallucinations? Did I say I saw things others didn't physically see? What are you trying to say please endeavor to give a complete thought and explanation that is clear. Have you experienced hallucinations?

I'm comfortable with your rejection of GOD. I'm comfortable with your rejection of Jesus Christ. I've said this before to you I hope it's clear now.

Why are you so uncomfortable? Why are you so defensive? Why so angry? Jim, you say I need help then are you offering to help or are those empty phrases?
JPL

United States

#5312 Feb 1, 2014
Jim wrote:
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Religious liars always love to write essays, when confronted with the fact that they have no evidence of god and are lying about it all.
We're not sure why such people have such active imaginations.
I would have to disagree that religious liars ALWAYS... that is an absolute statement and with liars they often have variations of skill set so making an absolute statement would be making a false statement. I don't want to be guilty of making a false statement do you?

Now as far as essays, anyone from Britain should have an inherit appreciation of the written word or perhaps I am being over generous in that respect because I appreciate knowledge which often comes from written works.

Evidence of GOD? I'm not trying to convince you of anything which would be a waste of my time I'm only a mere mortal, one in billions, a member of mankind residing here on planet Earth. If I expire today very few of the billions which inhabit this Earth will feel sorrow and that is as it should be for I am insignificant in the overall scheme of the world. Being humble, not arrogant is empowering to the individual. Egos are a waste of good space why not fill that space with something of value?
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5313 Feb 1, 2014
Don't waste your time with Jim. He is crazy

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5316 Feb 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I study a lot. I can not discount the possibility of some form of spiritual world but I have yet to see any peer reviewable evidence for any such thing.

What I do know for sure is that there is no all powerful compassionate god because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
Well said.
JPL

United States

#5317 Feb 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I study a lot. I can not discount the possibility of some form of spiritual world but I have yet to see any peer reviewable evidence for any such thing.
What I do know for sure is that there is no all powerful compassionate god because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
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Avoidable suffering caused by whom? The 6 million Jews murdered was mentioned earlier and did GOD kill them? Did Jesus Christ kill them? I would submit another theory if you will allow me to try and explain.

In the old testament of the Holy Bible we are told that GOD would speak directly with mankind and how did mankind repay GOD'S direct communication with them? Even though these people saw and heard (all the evidence most would need to believe)when tempted to break GOD rules of living they immediately broke the rule and flaunted their disbelief even though GOD gave them everything and only restricted one tree and it's fruit. The Garden of Eden offered everything no wants no needs denied except do not eat from the tree of life. You know the rest of the story. If you read in the Holy Bible multiple stories of how mankind turns it back and GOD and sins against him. A GOD who didn't show compassion wouldn't have kept trying to teach mankind a lesson would he? He would have washed his hands of all of us and that would be the end to the story.

WWII the German People allowed Hitler to take the place of religion and GOD in their society.
Burned books no religious books survived the new religion was NAZISM. The events which took place are beyond human rational explanation since the acts against the Jews and others were evil a true black sick evil and the end results was death, destruction utter desolation.

Why? How could people be so deceived by a mere man? Didn't they understand the end result of his insanity? How could anyone be so misguided as to complacently follow Hitler?

Let me ask a question to you. I see the 10 Commandments as precepts or guidelines to a more fulfilled life. It clearly shows an understanding for human nature's ability to be harmful to itself and others, it encourages self reflection and self improvement. Developing a conscience of good and evil behaviors. As a non-believer do you disregard any value in the 10 Commandments?
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5318 Feb 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I study a lot.

What I do know for sure is that there is no all powerful
compassionate god because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
And at what point do you think all that studying is going to
become noticeable. It may take longer than your lifetime.

Avoidable suffering is a divine gift also. The very best sex includes
it. Spanking has it's merits. Pain can be good.

Life without lubricants is a joy. She's sore, but she's smiling.
Jai

United States

#5319 Feb 2, 2014
WarForOil wrote:
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And at what point do you think all that studying is going to
become noticeable. It may take longer than your lifetime.
Avoidable suffering is a divine gift also. The very best sex includes
it. Spanking has it's merits. Pain can be good.
Life without lubricants is a joy. She's sore, but she's smiling.
You are a sick pervert.
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5320 Feb 2, 2014
Jai wrote:
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You are a sick pervert.
And your opinion is so valuable.
Don't most people look away even
as you're still speaking. Worthless.

I look away.
Jai

United States

#5321 Feb 2, 2014
Worth more than a sick pervert you look away because you know it's true.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5322 Feb 2, 2014
atheists always want to blame God for the evils of mankind.
Interested Mom

Carrollton, TX

#5325 Feb 2, 2014
There might be fewer athiests if Christians made more of an effort to explain the fundamental logic underlying Christianity.

I recommend reading "Christianity Made Simple" by Matthew Fortunato on Kindle. It is for normal parents who are seeking to instill good and lasting values in their children, and it explains Christianity in a way that athiest-types would have a hard time arguing against. Those Christians who actually want to affect any opinions in this kind of debate would find it useful.
http://matthewnfortunato.wordpress.com/2014/0...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#5327 Feb 2, 2014
Interested Mom wrote:
There might be fewer athiests if Christians made more of an effort to explain the fundamental logic underlying Christianity.
I recommend reading "Christianity Made Simple" by Matthew Fortunato on Kindle. It is for normal parents who are seeking to instill good and lasting values in their children, and it explains Christianity in a way that athiest-types would have a hard time arguing against. Those Christians who actually want to affect any opinions in this kind of debate would find it useful.
http://matthewnfortunato.wordpress.com/2014/0...
There is no logic in Christianity
JPL

United States

#5328 Feb 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Do thank your god for miscarriages, cot deaths and childhood leukaemia.
I know for sure is that there is no all powerful compassionate god because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
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All the anger you have your are directing it at GOD if you really believe GOD doesn't exist then why the anger?

Our time on Earth is a training period we are allowed to make choices and to learn from those choices. One should be developing a conscience of what represents right and wrong what ethics one should embrace and live by. Do you listen to your inner voice on whether something is right or wrong and whether you want to be involved? Do you meditate and struggle to make ethical choices and just, fair choices? Or do you do whatever, whenever and however you want?
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5330 Feb 2, 2014
interested mom you are making the mistake of believing these atheists are honest people just seeking the truth. They hate God and they hate themselves. They aren't looking for answers they are only looking ways to persecute Christians. Thats all they are interested in

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5332 Feb 2, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
atheists always want to blame God for the evils of mankind.
No, atheists blame man for the bad in the world. Now if God existed, then I would most certainly blame God.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5333 Feb 2, 2014
Incorrect. I care nothing about persecuting christians...all I ask is that christians understand that their religion is their religion alone.... it doesn't "have" to be mine, and it should not be forced onto anyone. I feel the same about every other religion as well. Have it for yourself, if you must, but keep it for yourself. If religious freedom to you is displaying your religion in every school and public place that you can, then prepare to have every other religion doing the same thing. Next thing you know there is not an open spot in the public where you can be free from having it in your face. Its supposed to be a personal relationship with your God, so why shouldn't it be just that.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5334 Feb 2, 2014
in your face? You have got to be kidding. God was thrown out of school and society years ago. Now anyone that stands up for Christianity is persecuted in many parts of the country and the world. Quit crying about God being thrown up in your face because its just the opposite.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5335 Feb 2, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
in your face? You have got to be kidding. God was thrown out of school and society years ago. Now anyone that stands up for Christianity is persecuted in many parts of the country and the world. Quit crying about God being thrown up in your face because its just the opposite.
Yes, it was finally taken out of the schools, and now you are part of the group that does nothing but whine about it. No one is saying you can't pray, they are just saying there doesn't need to be a forced group prayer for everyone, when not everyone wants to be involved. How bout you quit crying about being persecuted lol

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