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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5227 Jan 29, 2014
Mikko give your alternative explanation. We somehow evolved from a cosmic soup to what we have now? Your chances of winning every lottery in the world are greater than that happening. It never amazes me how people that claim to be smart can believe in something so irrational.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5228 Jan 29, 2014
If you believe that a god controls life and death then the only reasoning he would have for killing people or letting people live is just because he can...in my opinion, that's pretty shitty, but it's whatever.

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#5229 Jan 29, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
who cares about the UK.
Does God allow a person to live or die? Yes I believe He does. Why do some people like you exist and other great people die or endure hardships? I don't know. We can't understand why sometimes.
"THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS"
the oldest cop out in the book. its is drilled into the mind of the believer until they spew it forth without question.

When backed into a corner, sidestep.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5230 Jan 29, 2014
You expect us to understand God? You can't understand everything about God. Angel why do you hate so much? Do you not realize you will meet your maker someday? You act as though you won't.
Jim

London, UK

#5231 Jan 29, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Mikko give your alternative explanation. We somehow evolved from a cosmic soup to what we have now? Your chances of winning every lottery in the world are greater than that happening. It never amazes me how people that claim to be smart can believe in something so irrational.
Nobody has to answer your questions here - you're just an ignorant troll with no evidence of god.

Why be bitter when you can study yourself instead of looking like a complete dimwit here?
Jim

London, UK

#5232 Jan 29, 2014
AngelAngle wrote:
<quoted text>
"THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS"
the oldest cop out in the book. its is drilled into the mind of the believer until they spew it forth without question.
When backed into a corner, sidestep.
Society is too polite to call out religious liars for the lies they tell.
Jim

London, UK

#5233 Jan 29, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
You expect us to understand God? You can't understand everything about God. Angel why do you hate so much? Do you not realize you will meet your maker someday? You act as though you won't.
F*ck understanding god - you need to prove it first.
Jim

London, UK

#5234 Jan 29, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
On another note, it really makes absolutely no sense not to believe in a Creator. Look around you. Do you honestly think all this happened by complete accident? That we someone evolved from basically nothing into this? You guys like to talk about science and facts. Well do you know the odds against something like that happening? What you guys believe is totally unbelievable and silly
Are you just going to keep repeating your stupid beliefs over and over again?

You have no evidence of god and no evidence against evolution.

You're done here.
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#5235 Jan 30, 2014
Thinking wrote:
In the UK, belief in a god is down to 25% in the youth demographic. 19% more believe in something else "spiritual". The majority have no belief. This is the new normal position.
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In the UK, most people think the Queen is royalty.
That's a good reflection on the intelligence of the average Brit.

They're a people too dumb to start a revolution.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5238 Jan 30, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
Once again you atheists misinterpret and go to the extreme to make what you think is a point. This world is full of sin, disease, and death. Its the result of sin entering this world through Adam and Eve. Honestly, do you really not understand this? 90% of the world believes in God. Do you really think you are right and everyone else is wrong???? Give me a break.
Earthquakes happen because of sin and not plate tectonics? Hurricanes are caused by sin as opposed to being caused by tropical weather systems strengthening over water? People get cancer because they sin? That's not just stupidity, it is aggressive, willful ignorance.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5239 Jan 30, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
On another note, it really makes absolutely no sense not to believe in a Creator. Look around you. Do you honestly think all this happened by complete accident? That we someone evolved from basically nothing into this? You guys like to talk about science and facts. Well do you know the odds against something like that happening? What you guys believe is totally unbelievable and silly
The odds are not so long as you make them out to be. There's a difference between the probability of life on a specific, given location and the probability of life occurring somewhere in the universe.

In the Milky Way alone, there are several billion stars, many with orbiting planets, and moons orbiting those planets. If even 0.1% of those stars have planets in the "goldilocks zone", neither too nor too cold to sustain life, that is still several hundred million potential life sustaining locations just within this galaxy.

There are billions of galaxies. Do the math, if you can actually handle operations involving more than double digit numbers. A hundred million potential sites per galaxy times a billion galaxies is 100,000,000,000,000,000 potential sites. Actually more, since there's several billion stars per galaxy, not just one billion per galaxy, so I am understating my case.

If the odds of a potentially life sustaining site actually developing life were 1 in ten billion, which I think is an exaggeration, but I'm giving you all the benefit of every doubt, that would still mean roughly ten million sites with life. We were fortunate that our planet was one of those within the right zone and that the right combination of events happened in the right sequence. But, if it did not happen here, it certainly would have happened somewhere else. Or, several million somewhere elses.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5240 Jan 30, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Absolutely. I just think WarForOil's another ignorant and intolerant person.
They tend to shout more than tolerant people.
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I don't take everything WarForOil says at face value. I still think he/she is a Poe. I think the mask has slipped a few times. Sometimes, he/she is funny. Other times, he/she tries too hard to get a reaction and slips over the line into some rather unfunny territory. Even then, I don't necessarily think he/she actually holds the views stated, but is just pushing buttons to get a reaction. Some Poes are just innocuous fun, some are more pointed, and some are just a slightly more intelligent form of troll. I think the interchanges between WarForOil and Jim are just classic catfishing. If you let him/her know he/she gets under your skin, he/she will sense the hook in your mouth as well.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5241 Jan 30, 2014
The odds are so vast that it couldn't happen. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. The only difference is I'm honest about it. You aren't
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5244 Jan 30, 2014
Thinking wrote:
How many combinations of 52 cards are there? Over 8 followed by 67 zeroes.
Now shuffle, then deal out a deck of 52 cards.
What is the chance that you dealt out that nearly impossible deck? 100 percent. It just happened.
This is why your chance argument is dumb. There is no proof nor need for a designer.
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Once the number gets over 10, anti-atheist's shoes and socks are off as he accesses his supplemental counting aids. A number with 67 zeroes is incomprehensible to him.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5245 Jan 30, 2014
I'm going to give you a great opportunity. You don't believe in creation obviously. Please explain, in detail, how you think the universe began. How you think we came about. Put your ideas out there without bashing someone who believes in creation. This is your chance

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#5246 Jan 30, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
You expect us to understand God? You can't understand everything about God. Angel why do you hate so much? Do you not realize you will meet your maker someday? You act as though you won't.
understanding God? no, thats a little silly. i dont believe such a person exists. i do however understand reason, physics, geology and rational thought.magic goes against all of what we currently know about the universe.

you keep bringing up hate, not me. i have NO hate in me. its just not there. you are projecting again.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5247 Jan 30, 2014
I'll give you the same opportunity angel. You don't believe in creation so tell me exactly what you believe in. How did the universe begin, etc. I don't want to see any copy and pasting either
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5248 Jan 30, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
I'm going to give you a great opportunity. You don't believe in creation obviously. Please explain, in detail, how you think the universe began. How you think we came about. Put your ideas out there without bashing someone who believes in creation. This is your chance
I don't know, for sure. I am not a scientist, and quite frankly, I find theoretical physics almost incomprehensible. I am glad there are some people smart enough to work on those problems. I'm even gladder I don't have to. Scientists don't know for sure. We may never know. We are not likely to know in my lifetime. We do know more than we did, and that knowledge gives us clues. We clearly are not there yet.

Nevertheless, the fact that we do not know the answer does not confer a license to make up a story and stop inquiring after the truth because we now have a magic story. We now know the cause of many phenomena which mankind once did not understand. In not a single instance was the explanation "magic". I have no doubt that if and when we come to understand the origin of the universe, the answer will not be "magic".

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#5250 Jan 30, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
I'll give you the same opportunity angel. You don't believe in creation so tell me exactly what you believe in. How did the universe begin, etc. I don't want to see any copy and pasting either
Im not explaining the creation of the universe to you AGAIN Anti. I dont have as much free time as you do. Maybe you should look it up yourself but stay away from wiki and A.I.G.

Dont want to see and copy and paste? what do you have against that? you copy and paste directly from wikipedia.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#5251 Jan 30, 2014
well none of you know just as I expected. If you don't know then you have to be open to a creator if you are being honest. Far greater men than any of you believed in a creator.

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