'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

Jul 5, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NewsOK.com

Rebecca Vitsmun is shown during an interview with a CNN reporter shortly after the May 20 tornado that destroyed her Moore home.

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Amused

Lowell, MA

#4760 Jan 8, 2014
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummmm no. It would be better for you to ask what his feelings are than to guess cause that guess was very cookie cutter.
Anti-atheist's motto is "never look for facts when you can just as easily make sh*t up"
Lnc

United States

#4761 Jan 8, 2014
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Because, of course, children have to be indoctrinated to accept all of their parents' beliefs without any questions, and no one thinks for themselves. What's more, no one should marry anyone whose views do not exactly mirror their own in every detail, because that might lead to an outbreak of thinking. Next thing you know, everyone will be thinking. It'll be anarchy, I tell you.
Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not--struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.- Martin Luther
What can only be taught by the rod and with blows will not lead to much good; they will not remain pious any longer than the rod is behind them.
Martin Luther, The Great Catechism. Second Command (1529).
Warmed over Richard Dawkins...

Amusing
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#4763 Jan 8, 2014
well you were the one that said "if you had seen what he had seen". Care to elaborate? What has he seen that makes him not believe in God?
Thinking

Stalbridge, UK

#4764 Jan 8, 2014
And how many different spellings of lincoln will we see?
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Anti-atheist's motto is "never look for facts when you can just as easily make sh*t up"

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#4765 Jan 8, 2014
Answers in Genesis rejects modern scientific consensus on cosmology, geology, linguistics,paleontology and evolutionary biology in favor of a worldview which sees the universe, the Earth and life originating about 6,000 years ago. AiG claims their views of origins, based on a literal interpretation of the Bible, define what should be considered good science.They consider it positive that the intelligent design movement has produced resources supporting the biblical creationist viewpoint, but are critical of intelligent design for failing to mention the Christian God and the age of the Earth.
The scientific community considers young Earth creationism to be pseudoscience which "shares none of the essential characteristics of scientific theorizing.Consequently, scientific and scholarly organizations, including United States National Academy of Sciences, the Paleontological Society, Geological Society of America, Australian Academy of Science, and the Royal Society of Canada have issued statements against the teaching of young Earth creationism.

Answers in Genesis emphasizes a presuppositional rather than an evidentialist approach to apologetics. The "About Us" section of their web pages states:

The Bible—the “history book of the universe”—provides a reliable, eye-witness account of the beginning of all things, and can be trusted to tell the truth in all areas it touches on. Therefore, we are able to use it to help us make sense of this present world. When properly understood, the “evidence” confirms the biblical account.

Since their methodology rejects naturalistic scientific explanations of the origin of the universe in favor of the supernatural, creation science is considered to be a religion by the National Academy of Sciences.
Jim

London, UK

#4766 Jan 8, 2014
AngelAngle wrote:
Answers in Genesis rejects modern scientific consensus on cosmology, geology, linguistics,paleontology and evolutionary biology in favor of a worldview which sees the universe, the Earth and life originating about 6,000 years ago. AiG claims their views of origins, based on a literal interpretation of the Bible, define what should be considered good science.They consider it positive that the intelligent design movement has produced resources supporting the biblical creationist viewpoint, but are critical of intelligent design for failing to mention the Christian God and the age of the Earth.
The scientific community considers young Earth creationism to be pseudoscience which "shares none of the essential characteristics of scientific theorizing.Consequently, scientific and scholarly organizations, including United States National Academy of Sciences, the Paleontological Society, Geological Society of America, Australian Academy of Science, and the Royal Society of Canada have issued statements against the teaching of young Earth creationism.
Answers in Genesis emphasizes a presuppositional rather than an evidentialist approach to apologetics. The "About Us" section of their web pages states:
The Bible—the “history book of the universe”—provides a reliable, eye-witness account of the beginning of all things, and can be trusted to tell the truth in all areas it touches on. Therefore, we are able to use it to help us make sense of this present world. When properly understood, the “evidence” confirms the biblical account.
Since their methodology rejects naturalistic scientific explanations of the origin of the universe in favor of the supernatural, creation science is considered to be a religion by the National Academy of Sciences.
Creationist Cult Members are dishonesy downvoters.

he keeps changing his name because it got caught.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#4767 Jan 8, 2014
lol Angel and her cut and pasting again. Not impressed
Lnc

United States

#4768 Jan 8, 2014
-Support research on AIDS in the US and OK - Lnc

"Comfort the afflicted, and

afflict the comfortable." -- Finley Peter Dunne (1867-1936)

Through the years it's not quite clear who originally stated the above quote. Some say it came from Finley Peter Dunne, an American humorist and journalist. Whereas some say the quote was by H.L. Mencken (1880-1956), an American journalist occasionally mentioned by Chris Matthews, a political pundit from MSNBC's Hardball.

Whoever said it is not that important at the moment. But what is important is what had happened last year on March 13, 2013 at St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. For on that date, a much needed breeze of fresh air was unleashed upon a beleaguered global populace, and welcomed in this still new era of the 21st Century.

Briefly a nightclub bouncer before entering seminary, according TIME magazine, Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Buenos Aires, Argentina, now Pope Francis, continues to amaze. That is, he captures worldwide attention of the masses of both Catholics as well as non-Catholics the very moment after his election to the papacy on March 13, 2013. Which is unlike his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI who resigned after almost eight years on February 11,2013, becoming the first Pope to resign in 600 years. Yet, Pope Francis has come under some fire after launching barely out of the gate by some detractors, unlike Pope Benedict XVI. Why is that?

Well let's begin on what Pope Francis has done just last year as we are now in this brand new year of 2014. Right from the start he refused to live in the Papal palace, but instead chose to live in a nearby Vatican guest house for lay people. His reasoning for preference of residence is well-written in a superlative article written by Nick Squires for The Telegraph on May 29, 2013.

He ditched the traditional red shoes, yet instead continues to wear the simple black dress shoes of a priest. He ditched the Papal limousine, and instead is driven around in a regular car. And on one outing, he instead hopped a bus filled with cardinals. He refused the traditional gold Papal cross, yet instead chooses a simple silver one. And there is more.

He washed the feet of a young Muslim woman. He kissed and washed the feet of prisoners at the Casal del Marmo Youth Detention Center in Rome during mass. He kissed the face of a disfigured man. Furthermore, there have been rumors of the Pope having ventured into the night dressed as a priest to minister to the homeless, though the Pope himself will not confirm it. This account of the Pope's rumored night outings dressed as a priest in Rome has also been featured on The Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert calling Pope Francis "The Batpope" after stating himself as a proud Catholic. Also, on December 17, the day of his 77th birthday, Pope Francis invited a group of homeless men to share in his birthday breakfast.

But in spite of all those accounts, this next one is where he's really gotten into some trouble. For Pope Francis has also been forthright in speaking about economic issues, such as none other than economic inequality. On this, he has gotten some flack from near and far because economic inequality, or income inequality, has finally gotten some long overdue traction as an issue, though still slowly measurable since its existence of 30 years of flat-lining U.S. middle-class growth.

In Eduardo Porter's excellent online article in the New York Timestitled, "Inequality in America: The Data Is Sobering," he wrote near closing, "You would think Americans must be tiring of their lack of progress."

And within the sobering article he documented how the U.S. has trailed poorly, well behind several leading Western industrialized countries.

More Good News on Wednesday
Lnc

United States

#4769 Jan 8, 2014
"Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable." -- Finley Peter Dunne (1867-1936)

Through the years it's not quite clear who originally stated the above quote. Some say it came from Finley Peter Dunne, an American humorist and journalist. Whereas some say the quote was by H.L. Mencken (1880-1956), an American journalist occasionally mentioned by Chris Matthews, a political pundit from MSNBC's Hardball.

Whoever said it is not that important at the moment. But what is important is what had happened last year on March 13, 2013 at St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. For on that date, a much needed breeze of fresh air was unleashed upon a beleaguered global populace, and welcomed in this still new era of the 21st Century.

Briefly a nightclub bouncer before entering seminary, according TIME magazine, Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Buenos Aires, Argentina, now Pope Francis, continues to amaze. That is, he captures worldwide attention of the masses of both Catholics as well as non-Catholics the very moment after his election to the papacy on March 13, 2013. Which is unlike his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI who resigned after almost eight years on February 11,2013, becoming the first Pope to resign in 600 years. Yet, Pope Francis has come under some fire after launching barely out of the gate by some detractors, unlike Pope Benedict XVI. Why is that?

Well let's begin on what Pope Francis has done just last year as we are now in this brand new year of 2014. Right from the start he refused to live in the Papal palace, but instead chose to live in a nearby Vatican guest house for lay people. His reasoning for preference of residence is well-written in a superlative article written by Nick Squires for The Telegraph on May 29, 2013.

He ditched the traditional red shoes, yet instead continues to wear the simple black dress shoes of a priest. He ditched the Papal limousine, and instead is driven around in a regular car. And on one outing, he instead hopped a bus filled with cardinals. He refused the traditional gold Papal cross, yet instead chooses a simple silver one. And there is more.

He washed the feet of a young Muslim woman. He kissed and washed the feet of prisoners at the Casal del Marmo Youth Detention Center in Rome during mass. He kissed the face of a disfigured man. Furthermore, there have been rumors of the Pope having ventured into the night dressed as a priest to minister to the homeless, though the Pope himself will not confirm it. This account of the Pope's rumored night outings dressed as a priest in Rome has also been featured on The Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert calling Pope Francis "The Batpope" after stating himself as a proud Catholic. Also, on December 17, the day of his 77th birthday, Pope Francis invited a group of homeless men to share in his birthday breakfast.

But in spite of all those accounts, this next one is where he's really gotten into some trouble. For Pope Francis has also been forthright in speaking about economic issues, such as none other than economic inequality. On this, he has gotten some flack from near and far because economic inequality, or income inequality, has finally gotten some long overdue traction as an issue, though still slowly measurable since its existence of 30 years of flat-lining U.S. middle-class growth.

In Eduardo Porter's excellent online article in the New York Timestitled, "Inequality in America: The Data Is Sobering," he wrote near closing, "You would think Americans must be tiring of their lack of progress."

And within the sobering article he documented how the U.S. has trailed poorly, well behind several leading Western industrialized countries.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#4770 Jan 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
And how many different spellings of lincoln will we see?
<quoted text>
They keep getting shorter. I suspect soon he will simply be "L". A simple name for a simpleton. There's a certain symmetry there.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#4771 Jan 8, 2014
Lnc wrote:
-Support research on AIDS in the US and OK - Lnc
"Comfort the afflicted, and
...
Mr. Bun: Morning.
Waitress: Morning.
Mr. Bun: What have you got, then?
Waitress: Well there's egg and bacon; egg, sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg, bacon and spam; egg, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam; spam, spam, spam, egg and spam; spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam; or lobster thermidor aux crevettes, with a mornay sauce garnished with truffle paté, brandy and a fried egg on top and spam.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#4772 Jan 8, 2014
Lnc wrote:
"Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable." -- Finley Peter Dunne (1867-1936)
Through the years it's not quite clear who originally stated the above quote....
Historian: Another great Viking victory was at the Green Midget café at Bromley. Once again the Viking strategy was the same. They sailed from these fiords here,(indicating map with arrows on it) assembled at Trondheim and waited for the strong north-easterly winds to blow their oaken galleys to England whence they sailed on May 23rd. Once in Bromley they assembled at the Green Midget café and spam selecting a spam particular spam item from the spam menu would spam, spam, spam, spam, spam ...

Vikings:(singing) Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam. Lovely spam, wonderful spam ...
Amused

Lowell, MA

#4773 Jan 8, 2014
AngelAngle wrote:
Answers in Genesis rejects modern scientific consensus on cosmology, geology, linguistics,paleontology and evolutionary biology in favor of a worldview which sees the universe, the Earth and life originating about 6,000 years ago. AiG claims their views of origins, based on a literal interpretation of the Bible, define what should be considered good science.They consider it positive that the intelligent design movement has produced resources supporting the biblical creationist viewpoint, but are critical of intelligent design for failing to mention the Christian God and the age of the Earth.
The scientific community considers young Earth creationism to be pseudoscience which "shares none of the essential characteristics of scientific theorizing.Consequently, scientific and scholarly organizations, including United States National Academy of Sciences, the Paleontological Society, Geological Society of America, Australian Academy of Science, and the Royal Society of Canada have issued statements against the teaching of young Earth creationism.
Answers in Genesis emphasizes a presuppositional rather than an evidentialist approach to apologetics. The "About Us" section of their web pages states:
The Bible—the “history book of the universe”—provides a reliable, eye-witness account of the beginning of all things, and can be trusted to tell the truth in all areas it touches on. Therefore, we are able to use it to help us make sense of this present world. When properly understood, the “evidence” confirms the biblical account.
Since their methodology rejects naturalistic scientific explanations of the origin of the universe in favor of the supernatural, creation science is considered to be a religion by the National Academy of Sciences.
You can't spell "creationist" without C-R-E-T-I-N.
Lnc

United States

#4774 Jan 8, 2014
"You can't spell "creationist..." :-)

"We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal, that they are

endowed by their Creator

with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

Declaration of Independence

from England,

--Thomas Jefferson and others

God Bless America -

God Save the Queen -

Peace

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#4775 Jan 8, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
well you were the one that said "if you had seen what he had seen". Care to elaborate? What has he seen that makes him not believe in God?
He nor I am an atheist just because of things that we've seen. There are many different reasons why we choose not to believe, just like you have many different reasons why you choose to believe. I would elaborate, but I foresee an argument....and I don't want to argue. I don't mind sharing opinions, but I don't like arguments that have no end.:-)
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#4776 Jan 8, 2014
"If you had seen the things he has seen you might make the same decision."

Those were your exact words. The logical question is what things has he seen?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#4777 Jan 8, 2014
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Anti-atheist's motto is "never look for facts when you can just as easily make sh*t up"
Lol!

Scientist: "the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference across the two points".

antiatheist: "WTF do you know? You're just a scientist. Let's see what the Bible says about this."

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#4778 Jan 8, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
"If you had seen the things he has seen you might make the same decision."
Those were your exact words. The logical question is what things has he seen?
How can you talk about logic when you've abandoned it in favour of magic, superstitious mumbo jumbo and ju-ju?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#4779 Jan 8, 2014
Lnc wrote:
"You can't spell "creationist..." :-)
"We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal, that they are
endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
Declaration of Independence
from England,
--Thomas Jefferson and others
God Bless America -
God Save the Queen -
Peace
No thanks for the French?

Without whose help the anti government forces would have lost their civil war against the pro government forces.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#4780 Jan 8, 2014
you talking about the same scientists that gave us piltdown man? How about the ones that told us the ice caps would be melted by now? I could go on and on. Never put your faith in men

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