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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#3702 Dec 5, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
Still waiting for someone to tell me how something can come from nothing without God. None of you can ever answer that question because its absurd.
Doesnt your god come from 'nothing'??

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#3703 Dec 5, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you are making no sense angel. Do you honestly not realize that at some point something had to have been created? An atom, a molecule, a whatever? Things don't just happen angel. You can have a room of thin air that can sit there for billions of years and nothing is ever going to come of it. Funny how you guys can't grasp this.
Lucky for us *gawd* didnt just happen.

That would make no sense lol.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#3704 Dec 5, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
I guess you just are never going to understand that molecules had to have had been created just like anything. Its a question none of you have ever answered and can't answer yet you continue with your nonsense belief system. Atheism, evolution, etc.are powerful tools satan has used to deceive millions.
Ok never mind.

This one is very strong in the koolaid lol.
Jenks

United States

#3705 Dec 6, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
How did these atoms and molecules pop into existence without God? I'm very serious. I want to know how that can possibly happen. Still waiting...
Replace the word GOD with 'intelligent design' and perhaps they will be more open to grasping the concept. Many former prestigious
atheists came to the conclusion of intelligent design though the word GOD they still resisted. Discovery is everyone's journey and some find answers traveling by different experiences than what your experiences are so try to be more flexible.

If a person is resentful and abrasive then they are showing a lack of faith(belief)in their own opinions. Just a friendly reminder...

Furthermore, you resist the word evolution. Why? Evolution merely means change and you should be able to see visual verification of change all around you. Look at yourself and your family and have you not noticed change? Those changes are your love ones evolving. Evolution is nothing to be afraid of or intimidated by it's a fact.
You believe in GOD or intelligent design and there is literally more proof of change or evolution in nature than you can shake a stick at...pardon the witticism.

Everyone try to have a peaceful respectful debate or maybe just maybe it can be a discovery?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#3706 Dec 6, 2013
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

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“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

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#3707 Dec 6, 2013
Jenks wrote:
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Replace the word GOD with 'intelligent design' and perhaps they will be more open to grasping the concept. Many former prestigious
atheists came to the conclusion of intelligent design though the word GOD they still resisted. Discovery is everyone's journey and some find answers traveling by different experiences than what your experiences are so try to be more flexible.
If a person is resentful and abrasive then they are showing a lack of faith(belief)in their own opinions. Just a friendly reminder...
Furthermore, you resist the word evolution. Why? Evolution merely means change and you should be able to see visual verification of change all around you. Look at yourself and your family and have you not noticed change? Those changes are your love ones evolving. Evolution is nothing to be afraid of or intimidated by it's a fact.
You believe in GOD or intelligent design and there is literally more proof of change or evolution in nature than you can shake a stick at...pardon the witticism.
Everyone try to have a peaceful respectful debate or maybe just maybe it can be a discovery?
How does changing the title ('god-did-it' to 'intelligent design') while leaving the plot of the story intact change aything?
LCNLin

United States

#3708 Dec 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
Would you please post this again?
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Amused

Lowell, MA

#3709 Dec 6, 2013
gotnatas wrote:
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Doesnt your god come from 'nothing'??
He comes from the minds of theists, which is the closest thing to a vacuum we are apt to see in nature.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#3710 Dec 6, 2013
Jenks wrote:
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Replace the word GOD with 'intelligent design' and perhaps they will be more open to grasping the concept. Many former prestigious
atheists came to the conclusion of intelligent design though the word GOD they still resisted. Discovery is everyone's journey and some find answers traveling by different experiences than what your experiences are so try to be more flexible.
...
"Intelligent design" confuses cause and effect. The puddle does not fit perfectly into the depression in the ground because it was designed to fit, but because it conformed to the contours of the depression. Likewise, plants and animals evolved to fit specific niches in the ecosystem. They "fit" perfectly into those niches because they changed to fit into the niche, not because they were designed to fit.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#3711 Dec 6, 2013
well all these responses and still none of you can come up with any kind of answer. All you can do is attack believers. I'll give you one more chance. Explain how the universe began without something being created at some point. Try hard...I know you can come up with something surely
Tia

United States

#3712 Dec 6, 2013
Amused wrote:
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"Intelligent design" confuses cause and effect. The puddle does not fit perfectly into the depression in the ground because it was designed to fit, but because it conformed to the contours of the depression. Likewise, plants and animals evolved to fit specific niches in the ecosystem. They "fit" perfectly into those niches because they changed to fit into the niche, not because they were designed to fit.
I think what 'jenks' is saying is the ability to evolve or change to 'fit' the environment is built into the plant or animal by intelligent design or he is explaining that's what some former atheist final conclusion.

You have to admit it's food for thought.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#3713 Dec 6, 2013
intelligent design isn't.
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
"Intelligent design" confuses cause and effect. The puddle does not fit perfectly into the depression in the ground because it was designed to fit, but because it conformed to the contours of the depression. Likewise, plants and animals evolved to fit specific niches in the ecosystem. They "fit" perfectly into those niches because they changed to fit into the niche, not because they were designed to fit.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#3714 Dec 6, 2013
Good.
antiatheist wrote:
Still waiting...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3715 Dec 6, 2013
Jenks wrote:
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Replace the word GOD with 'intelligent design' and perhaps they will be more open to grasping the concept. Many former prestigious
atheists came to the conclusion of intelligent design though the word GOD they still resisted.
Name.... ONE.

Better yet-- name **one** who isn't mentally ill due to old age, disease or other ailment.

Can you do it?

Or are you just **lying** here?

In any case? Who cares?

Atheists are not magical--they are vulnerable to a suave line of bullshit when their defenses are down, like anybody else.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3716 Dec 6, 2013
Jenks wrote:
<quoted text>
Replace the word GOD with 'intelligent design' and perhaps they will be more open to grasping the concept. Many former prestigious
atheists came to the conclusion of intelligent design though the word GOD they still resisted. Discovery is everyone's journey and some find answers traveling by different experiences than what your experiences are so try to be more flexible.
If a person is resentful and abrasive then they are showing a lack of faith(belief)in their own opinions. Just a friendly reminder...
Furthermore, you resist the word evolution. Why? Evolution merely means change and you should be able to see visual verification of change all around you. Look at yourself and your family and have you not noticed change? Those changes are your love ones evolving. Evolution is nothing to be afraid of or intimidated by it's a fact.
You believe in GOD or intelligent design and there is literally more proof of change or evolution in nature than you can shake a stick at...pardon the witticism.
Everyone try to have a peaceful respectful debate or maybe just maybe it can be a discovery?
As for intelligent design? That is 100% bunkum-- there is nothing in the universe that points to "designed".

All can be explained by "not design".
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#3717 Dec 6, 2013
none of you can come up with a response. How typical

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3718 Dec 6, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>How does changing the title ('god-did-it' to 'intelligent design') while leaving the plot of the story intact change aything?
It doesn't.

It still leaves huge gaps of claims unexplained.

Introducing either "god" or "intelligent design" **adds** more unanswered questions than it purports to answer.

Anyone who is content with either "explanation" simply hasn't looked at it deeply.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3719 Dec 6, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
none of you can come up with a response. How typical
A response to **what**?

Since you are intellectually challenged by the "REPLY" function?

You really need to clarify what you mean/want.

As for your dubious "questions"? They've been answered 100's of times already.

It's just that, once again, you lack the intelligence to recognize it.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#3720 Dec 6, 2013
Okay I'll go real slow for you Bob since I know you are impaired. Please take your time, research, talk to other atheists, whatever you gotta do, and show me how it is possible for the universe to appear without something being created at some point. If you don't think something was created then you must believe that matter just appeared.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3721 Dec 6, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
Okay I'll go real slow for you Bob since I know you are impaired. Please take your time, research, talk to other atheists, whatever you gotta do, and show me how it is possible for the universe to appear without something being created at some point. If you don't think something was created then you must believe that matter just appeared.
1) what makes you assume it just appeared? Nobody in real science is making that claim-- that is just you idiot, science-impaired morons who foolishly try to say that.

2) what makes you assume it was **created**? Nobody in real science is making *that* claim, either.

Moreover, in quantum physics (a subject you never heard of, I'm sure) particles appear and disappear all the time-- without cause.

And in macro physics: nuclear radiation-- a radioactive isotope will --*without**cause* spontaneously decay, releasing one or more forms of radiation.

3) you are under the idiotic notion that the Big Bang theory states the universe appeared from nothing. That is false. You *have* been lied to-- and repeatedly.

Sadly, you are too stupid and **lazy** to bother to look up the actual **facts** about the Big Bang theory.

It does **not** claim the universe suddenly appeared from nothing.

That is an idiotic lie made up by very stupid people.... you know... people of faith.

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