The problem of evil and hate

Oct 20, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Gleaner

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you've asked cats about this?
sure pal...
at least you started this one out with a ' i may be wrong' disclaimer...you are learning...
but i have yet to see you man up and admit when you are clearly wrong...i doubt you will now.or even have it in you.
Ok I see you are back your childish games. My turn.
woodtick57 wrote:
my dog hates flies in the house, he will hunt them down and squish them. no other reason than he hates it when they land on him...
So you have asked your dog about this. Did he tell you he does it out of hate and for no other reason? What a tard!

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replaytime wrote:
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How does your dog squish a flea? It is hard to squish them in your fingers with their hard shell.
He kills them for they are his enemy. They bite him and make him itch.
Oops my bad. It looked like you said fleas on my phone. Continue on.

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replaytime wrote:
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Ok I see you are back your childish games. My turn.
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So you have asked your dog about this. Did he tell you he does it out of hate and for no other reason? What a tard!
no, i pay attention. he doesn't give a flick about the flies outside, but once they land on him when he is napping inside, he hunts them down and kills them

and yeah, i had cats that just killed mice cuz they liked to, and chipmunks, and birds. they didn't have to hone any hunting skills at all cuz their bowl of kitty chow never moved an inch...

what a tool you are...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, i pay attention. he doesn't give a flick about the flies outside, but once they land on him when he is napping inside, he hunts them down and kills them
and yeah, i had cats that just killed mice cuz they liked to, and chipmunks, and birds. they didn't have to hone any hunting skills at all cuz their bowl of kitty chow never moved an inch...
what a tool you are...
You still don't get it do you. CATS ARE NATURAL PREDATORS! They hone their skills constantly because it is their nature to be a predator.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, i pay attention. he doesn't give a flick about the flies outside, but once they land on him when he is napping inside, he hunts them down and kills them
and yeah, i had cats that just killed mice cuz they liked to, and chipmunks, and birds. they didn't have to hone any hunting skills at all cuz their bowl of kitty chow never moved an inch...
what a tool you are...
Inside the house they are invading his territory. I covered that in the first comment I made. You must have missed that one.

You still don't get it do you. CATS ARE NATURAL PREDATORS! They hone their skills constantly because it is their nature to be a predator.

Let me add to this. You can have a lion in captivity and feed him all the meet he wants. Turn a sheep lose in with him and he will kill it because he is what? That's right. He is a NATURAL PREDATOR!

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replaytime wrote:
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Inside the house they are invading his territory. I covered that in the first comment I made. You must have missed that one.
You still don't get it do you. CATS ARE NATURAL PREDATORS! They hone their skills constantly because it is their nature to be a predator.
Let me add to this. You can have a lion in captivity and feed him all the meet he wants. Turn a sheep lose in with him and he will kill it because he is what? That's right. He is a NATURAL PREDATOR!
but my cats never ate what they killed, they didn't even always kill it.

so, humans are also natural predators, so any killing they do could be rationalized away with the shitty arguments you are using also...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but my cats never ate what they killed, they didn't even always kill it.
so, humans are also natural predators, so any killing they do could be rationalized away with the shitty arguments you are using also...
You think modern man is a natural predator?!?! LMMFAO. I think I will go to bed on this one. I don't see how you can get any more idiotic than that.

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replaytime wrote:
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You think modern man is a natural predator?!?! LMMFAO. I think I will go to bed on this one. I don't see how you can get any more idiotic than that.
any more than a modern cat? or dog?

sure pal, sure...

do try to keep up...
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>any more than a modern cat? or dog?
sure pal, sure...
do try to keep up...
Judging by his image (avatar?), his comments and "Let's put a smile on that face”, I think Replaytime is a troll with nothing to say and is just amusing himself at the expense of contributors. He doesn't seem entirely well and when he reads this I suspect he will feel amused instead of embarrassed.

Of course most of the religionists on here don't seem 'entirely well' to many of us, but I don't think they all have exactly the same problem.
(JMHO)

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I Think? all we undoubtedly believe evil is negative , neither involves no positive existence. Anger , hatred , jealousy , revenge , corruption , selfishness , greed , jealousy , suspicion , avarice , vanity , greed destroy lives , undermine the power of man , obsessed with these conditions. Every evil passion devours itself , carries the seed of death for people and for life. In an evil passion is devouring something , it reveals bad infinity . Evil man plunges into illusory illusory , false life . Nothing ontological not in this life. Murder and death are hidden in the element of evil in every evil passion. Anger and hatred is murder and death, the destruction of life. But love is an affirmation of life, life in all and in all. Being positive can only be a kingdom of love. In the face of the alleged love of every human being , every creature of God , every blade of grass . Loving wants eternal life for a loved one . Loathing wants termination of life and death .
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Everybody answer it here! That way we can see how the vote shakes out.@bounceit_inc:#bounceit!- Do you believe in #God? http://t.co/QOR6d4P1yz

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replaytime wrote:
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Oops my bad. It looked like you said fleas on my phone. Continue on.
Thats it coward, change the subject away from proving your creationist god. As predicted.

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Far Away wrote:
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Why do atheists care so much what others believe and put so much energy into their inflammatory speech toward and about believers? It's the universal enigma among atheists.
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Go away you agnostic waste of space. When you're overcome your fear of knowledge you can join in the argument, but until then, having "no position" is a total cop out.
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Evil and hate are both value judgments.

To the mother sheep it is evil when the lion kills her lamb and drags it off to it's den to feed it's young.

But to the Lion the dead lamb is a blessing.

Better to view the world as both without blemish and as diseased.

We can than appreciate what we have and get on with healing the disease.

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replaytime wrote:
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Cats by their very nature are hunter/predators. They play with there food for several reasons.
1. the "pouncing" and "batting" cats do is to wear their pray down and tire them out.
2. The same way cats play with string or other cat toys has something to do with their predatory perception and curiosity.
3. Letting them go only to catch them again is a way of honing their skills. They hunt by natural instincts.
4. A well fed cat sometimes won't eat the mouse because we humans are feeding them but being a predator they hunt to hone their skills for when we don't feed them so they won't go hungry.
You just keep making your self look dumber and dumber.
If you ever want to automatically generate an entirely irrelevant essay on some meaningless bullsh*t, just ask your friendly online creationist for proof of god in writing:

You will be guaranteed to:

1. Never have your question addressed whatsoever.
2. Give you lots of meaningless philosophical rants
3. Ask you "what if" questions to misdirect you
4. Argue a broader case, by running like a coward from the question.
5. Ask you to disprove their god (as though its been already proven), for no logical reason.
6. Insult you
7. Threaten you with hell
8. Tell you sh*tty stories with lots of holes in them.
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Oct 30, 2013
 
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>That last part caused coke to blow out my nose. Thought I was going drown or die laughing.
Then my work here is done.

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Oct 30, 2013
 
Hey Wills, long time no facepalm.
superwilly wrote:
I'm sorry, but WE are the source of evil and hate, god isn't the source of that.
Isiah 45:7

Even God says you're wrong.

Quite obvious really, since him being eternal, all powerful and all knowing and was responsible for the whole entire shebang. God started it knowing exactly what was gonna happen. Because to him it's happened.

Time has no meaning to an eternal.
superwilly wrote:
Evil and hate are the consequences of our actions and stupidity. Since god is not the source of it why think he should be responsible for preventing it? We are fully capable of avoiding hate and evil.
No we aren't, since free will is an illusion under an all-knowing God.
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Oct 30, 2013
 
superwilly wrote:
I just have one point to make. If you are an athiest, why even bother with the christian concept of evil? If all it is is some made up construct, then " evil" does not even exist. Why even bother with it.
Because they bring it up.(shrug)

We then subject it to critical scrutiny and fundies tell us that all the bad things God did are "good".
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replaytime wrote:
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I agree. Evil and hate are human nature. I may be wrong but I think we are the only species that will kill others species, even our own species just out of hate and/or meanness and sometimes for fun.
No we're not.
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replaytime wrote:
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Nope he kills a mouse to hone his predator skills. Killing for fun is just killing because you can and getting nothing out of it. No honing of skills, no food, no nothing.
Killing for fun hones your skills at killing. A useful skill for cats to have.

Cats are evil.

They control the world.

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