Why Do Atheists Ridicule Christianity?

Why Do Atheists Ridicule Christianity?

There are 11901 comments on the Free Republic story from May 5, 2011, titled Why Do Atheists Ridicule Christianity?. In it, Free Republic reports that:

'RELIGION SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RIDICULE, HATRED AND CONTEMPT' Atheism, or 'antitheism,' which was once considered taboo in America, has gone somewhat mainstream in today's society.

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susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#6052 Nov 9, 2013
People consist of a soul and a spirit. the Hebrew word for soul is nephesh and it means "life". The blood is the life of the flesh. The soul is the physical body. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach and it means "breath" or "wind". The spirit gives life to the soul. Genesis 2:7 "...and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul". A baby does not have a spirit until it is born and takes its first breath. The spirit is what lives on after death. The soul is mortal. Also, in the ancient world, children were not counted among the living until they were a month old. That's when they were considered viable, a lot did not live that long.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#6053 Nov 9, 2013
"A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth." -Albert Einstein
Crolath

Palo Cedro, CA

#6055 Nov 9, 2013
virtuanna wrote:
<quoted text>It's never too late to fix that problem...since you don't mind destroying life.
Otherwise, stop whining.


Not whining, just trying to give you a dose of reality. I notice that you are against abortion but have no problem inciting someone to commit suicide. How unsurprisingly hypocritical of you.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6056 Nov 9, 2013
imaginaryfriend wrote:
Stop claiming falsely that this a "christian' nation. Our secular constitution is based on ancient British law. Stop forcing theocratic laws into legislation at the U.S. and state levels. Stop promoting hate for others, based on your books, we don't have to accept your books. And we choose not to hate. Do these things and you may deserve our respect.
I notice that you did not hit a reply button, and also that the numbers prior to your comment skip a couple of numbers. Could that be because some of the fundie types wrote comments so vicious that even the very tolerant editors of topix took them off? It does seem that the most hatefilled socalled Christians are often the most theocratic in their political aims. They want to use the US foreign policy to start whatever war they think is predicted in some part of the Bible, in order to bring on end times and their own rapture, they think. There is more info on details of this on the Rachel Maddow show of Friday. Bush - W - has been raising money for them, apparently. Hagee is involved too, as well as many other TV minister types. They actually want to get people in the US to support extreme GOP politicians who are warmongers and theocrats, some of them neo-con types like in the Bush Administration, in order to bring about end times. and according to RM, the info re Bush has been taken off the internet, to try to conceal his involvement.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6057 Nov 9, 2013
I must say that I hope that decent types who consider themselves to be Christians finally wake up to the evil of the extreme rightwing fundies, and promote a decent version of Christianity which is not focused on bringing about the end of the planet, but instead has a love of fellow living beings, and stewardship of planet earth model. There used to be a lot of religious types like that - including Jewish and Muslim leaders in the US. They backed civil rights laws and education and welfare programs. Now the media is mostly silent about them, and gives play to the extremists who get more attention with wild rants - Ted Cruz's father being one of the most extreme.
That is OK if enough sensible people see it and speak out against him - not OK if only the nutcases pay attention and flock to support the Cruz faction. It is not fair to call it the tea party. I am tempted to call those two the minions of the devil, but the irony might be lost on true believers.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6058 Nov 9, 2013
Crystal_Clear wrote:
<quoted text>
Relatively new here - want to say I agree!
:)

Some socialist ideas are bad-- sure.

But not all of them.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6059 Nov 9, 2013
appleboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob, Bob, Bob,
I was playing. I was telling nano that the socialist plot she envisions is only true in her own mind. "The dirty truth is that the ultimate target of the socialist Clinton plot was and still remains against all raving mad paranoid schizophrenics."
In retrospect, I should have made better use of white space, so my poking fun would have been more obvious. You would agree that it's the raving mad paranoid schizophrenics who actually think there's a socialist plot against them, yes?
Then?

I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.

You may blame me for the mistake-- I have seen so many people who wrote what you wrote as if it were **real**, and so I was fooled by your sarcasm.

Again-- I am sorry for my mistake.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6060 Nov 9, 2013
Crolath wrote:
<quoted text>
You're assuming aborting is an act of hate. It isn't. It is something done after a long agonizing decision process. Sometimes abortion is what's best for the child. I am speaking as someone who should have been aborted. Why don't you get down off that high horse for five minutes and imagine what your life would be like if you grew up being beaten and/or raped every day while never having enough food to eat. Having to raise your little brothers and sisters because your parents don't give a damn. Trying to take all of their beatings for them to spare them the pain. Getting to the point where you enjoy being locked in the closet because, hey, those are hours that you aren't being actively abused.
I don't know what kind of sugar coated, rose colored world you grew up in, but as for me, I still have nightmares 50 years later. You need a dose of reality, lady.
I have to agree with you here-- I doubt most women who undergo the process, do it lightly.

On the other hand?

Even if they did? Who are we to make demands on **their** uterus?

That would be ...

... akin to forced slavery.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6061 Nov 9, 2013
virtuanna wrote:
<quoted text>You know fkg well I'm not trying to be anonymous, otherwise I would have changed the IP address or made a new account, Bob.
I'm staying at a friend's house and didn't want to log in to my nano account on their computer.
Get over it, Bobblehead.
LOL!

I should have recognized your ugly stench by your ugly words.

However, you've cleared that up quite nicely-- your ugly just oozes forth once more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6062 Nov 9, 2013
virtuanna wrote:
<quoted text>It's never too late to fix that problem...since you don't mind destroying life.
Otherwise, stop whining.
You destroy life every time you open your ugly, filthy mouth.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6063 Nov 9, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>They are when theft, kidnapping, and murder are used to enforce those ideas..
WTF?

You are starting to sound ... insane.

(even more than your usual)

How, exactly, is **roads** equal to kidnapping and murder?

... wait.

Don't bother-- I don't wish to know what sort of insane paranoia cult you subscribe to.

I won't be reading you anymore.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6064 Nov 9, 2013
Crolath wrote:
<quoted text>
Not whining, just trying to give you a dose of reality. I notice that you are against abortion but have no problem inciting someone to commit suicide. How unsurprisingly hypocritical of you.
She's a classic example of your typical Genuine Christian™.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6065 Nov 9, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
I must say that I hope that decent types who consider themselves to be Christians finally wake up to the evil of the extreme rightwing fundies, and promote a decent version of Christianity which is not focused on bringing about the end of the planet, but instead has a love of fellow living beings, and stewardship of planet earth model. There used to be a lot of religious types like that - including Jewish and Muslim leaders in the US. They backed civil rights laws and education and welfare programs. Now the media is mostly silent about them, and gives play to the extremists who get more attention with wild rants - Ted Cruz's father being one of the most extreme.
That is OK if enough sensible people see it and speak out against him - not OK if only the nutcases pay attention and flock to support the Cruz faction. It is not fair to call it the tea party. I am tempted to call those two the minions of the devil, but the irony might be lost on true believers.
I must agree.

In some of the more moderate churches? They take seriously the last words attributed to Jesus (according to the bible).

They call his commands to heal the sick, feed the poor and house the homeless, "the Great Commission".

And they support any and all programs which do that, such as SNAP (food stamps), welfare and the ACA.

Each of which was specifically created to do **exactly** that: feed the hungry, house the homeless and medicate the sick.

Anyone who is against those? Without a **replacement**?

Is not a **real** christian anyway.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6066 Nov 9, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
When you can prove your god, your interference in womens' lives will actually mean something.
that is silly. even if someone could prove a god, it would not justify infringing on the rights of other humans. It might mean there is a nasty God, if such existed, but we would have a duty to not worship or obey such a God.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6067 Nov 9, 2013
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
Why Do Atheists Ridicule Christianity?
The answer is quite simple really.
Most Atheists are not aware of John Frum and the Cargo Cult:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/j...
Once one understands clearly how quickly and easily wacky religions can form, one no longer is able to ridicule Christianity.
All one can do is quietly shed a tear and have compassion for these poor souls huddled together in a world of make believe, driven mad by their fear of the unknown.
that's kind but not sufficient. neither is ridicule. preventing naive folks from getting indoctrinated with nonsense religions is what we need to do. not that I know how to do it. I admit that avoiding them is easiest - especially since some of these socalled poor souls are vicious and even killers. they are certainly liars and slanderers.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#6068 Nov 9, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> that's kind but not sufficient. neither is ridicule. preventing naive folks from getting indoctrinated with nonsense religions is what we need to do. not that I know how to do it. I admit that avoiding them is easiest - especially since some of these socalled poor souls are vicious and even killers. they are certainly liars and slanderers.
There has always been a cure for faith-based religion: reality.

The claims the religious leaders offer up, just do not hold up to objective inspection.

Never have, and it appears, likely never will.

So a good education, with a wide range of subject material including many different social and civilization systems?

Is an excellent inoculation for religious stupidity.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6069 Nov 9, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>They are when theft, kidnapping, and murder are used to enforce those ideas..
same when these things are used by various religious persons to enforce nonsense religious ideas. bad ethics are bad ethics, no matter who is misbehaving. religion tends to make the bad persons much worse, since it is rooted in absolutism, and uses a God to justify evil behavior. nationalism and family loyalties and some very intolerant ideologies, also can have some strong influences. I suspect unloving parents have a lot to do with who is vicious, however.

if you are attacking socialism, that is rather silly. If you want to go after cult of personality communism as with Stalin or Mao, that is more justified. capitalism as a belief system is full of excuses for very vicious behavior, when taken to extremes of predatory greed. only a mixed economic system, with a decent majority of the population, is guaranteed to be flexible enough to have a very good chance of working to benefit most people, and other living things. by decent I mean folks who believe in kindness toward people and other living things. not stupid moralists hung up on sex or religion, or successfully concealed greed.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6070 Nov 9, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Exposed how and for what? Do you have proof? Disappear for months.. lol, sorry I have things to do in real life. Not everyone is a bed ridden psychopath like most of Topix.
at least Skeptic is an honest arrogant atheist who thinks he knows it all and does not have to prove anything. It makes it easy to disavow him. I am an agnostic atheist - not believing and also not claiming to know. He made accusations against you - he dislikes plain agnostics and agnostic atheists and calls them names - so maybe you can clarify your views. I do not have to approve of someone just because Skeptic attacks them, but it helps me reserve judgment at least.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6071 Nov 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
There has always been a cure for faith-based religion: reality.
The claims the religious leaders offer up, just do not hold up to objective inspection.
Never have, and it appears, likely never will.
So a good education, with a wide range of subject material including many different social and civilization systems?
Is an excellent inoculation for religious stupidity.
you know the old saying - you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. there is lots of resistance among believers, they do not want to look at any information that challenges their superstitions. and how can we make parents see that their children have a good education, when they can home school if they fear their children will learn rational thinking, or scientific attitudes, or about many different ideas or societies. parents can withhold vaccinations for diseases, because of their superstitious fears - and listening to Miochele Bachman - so they also can withhold information or even indoctrinate their children so much that even a socalled good educaton is not allowed to penetrate the wall of superstition erected by early childhood training. I do admire those who try to save the poor fools who are locked in the prison of superstition, as think you do at times. But remember, some of them are nasty and horrid human beings, and unlikely to want to be rescued.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#6072 Nov 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I must agree.
In some of the more moderate churches? They take seriously the last words attributed to Jesus (according to the bible).
They call his commands to heal the sick, feed the poor and house the homeless, "the Great Commission".
And they support any and all programs which do that, such as SNAP (food stamps), welfare and the ACA.
Each of which was specifically created to do **exactly** that: feed the hungry, house the homeless and medicate the sick.
Anyone who is against those? Without a **replacement**?
Is not a **real** christian anyway.
glad to see you state it so explicitly. You know you are one of my favorite people on topix, and even any slight seeming disagreement with you seems a minor point, when we get into details. You are making reference to passages in Matthew 25, I think. The terrible and sad part about that is that in adjoining passages (after the nice things about caring for the least of these) there is a nasty section about dividing people into sheep and goats, and sending goats to hell. And I really do not like the notion of entertaining angels unaware, or of doing to Jesus what one does to the least of these, as a motivation for being kind to the poor and helpless and needy, etc. I do not need to see someone as an angel or as Jesus to feel I should be relatively kind to that person. I admit, however, that if I visualized certain persons as helpless dogs I might feel more inclined to put myself out to go to more trouble to help them.

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