Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12674 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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Jim

London, UK

#13041 Dec 27, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
Albert Einstein called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.
Einstein rejected the label atheist. Einstein stated: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist.
Einstein - the religious red herring which Theists like to bring up, to avoid presenting evidence of god.

Atheism predates Einstein and is a conclusion based on facts - there's just no god..
Jim

London, UK

#13042 Dec 27, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.
Einstein definitely Atheist. Only reason he didn't say it was fearing persecution.

He said what he thought about Christianity very clearly in 1954:

"About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the Church... As long as I can remember. I have resented mass indoctrination. I cannot prove to you there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws" (1954).[64]

Albert Einstein.
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#13044 Dec 27, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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fairiesdidit
.....ah...."Mikko".. .you're adorable...but, you give homosexuals too much credit ...

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Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#13045 Dec 27, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Watch as Creationist troll LCN tries to revise Einstein's beliefs according to Creationism.
Of course this is what Einstein thought of Christianity, pay attention to the year:
"About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the Church... As long as I can remember. I have resented mass indoctrination. I cannot prove to you there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws" (1954).[64]
Albert Einstein
...."Jimbo" ...You are being intellectually dishonest , bloke...

Albert , was obviously a Deist .....

He did not worship God ...but, neither did he reject the existence of a supreme being ..

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Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#13046 Dec 27, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Einstein - the religious red herring which Theists like to bring up, to avoid presenting evidence of god.
Atheism predates Einstein and is a conclusion based on facts - there's just no god..
A) Every culture (since the dawn of man)....has had some sort of spiritual belief.
B) Our conscience.
C) The beauty of nature .
E) The abject hostility belief in God , always incites in the godless...

The fact is atheism is the outlier ; and of course atheist ideologies , need to build wall to keep their citizens in ...

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Jim

London, UK

#13047 Dec 28, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...."Jimbo" ...You are being intellectually dishonest , bloke...
Albert , was obviously a Deist .....
He did not worship God ...but, neither did he reject the existence of a supreme being ..
You claim to believe in god, yet cannot present any evidence. Who's the intellectually dishonesy one again?
Jim

London, UK

#13048 Dec 28, 2013
number four wrote:
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A) Every culture (since the dawn of man)....has had some sort of spiritual belief.
Every culture has has murder and disease - doesn't make what every culture has great.
number four wrote:
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B) Our conscience.
People have a conscience. Religious liars don't and will lie hard trying to keep their fantasy going. Religious liars will even lie about Atheism to protect their fragile egocentric belief-world they have created for themselves.
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C) The beauty of nature .
Religious people are good at changing the subject away from no evidence of god. They talk about love, beauty and other evolved human concepts that have nothing to do with evidence of god.
number four wrote:
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E) The abject hostility belief in God , always incites in the godless...
God's not real. Atheists are hostile because believers are judgemental liars, whose religious lies about god are based on no evidence at all.

If religious people really believed in god, they would punish themselves for lying about it.
number four wrote:
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The fact is atheism is the outlier ; and of course atheist ideologies , need to build wall to keep their citizens in ...
Atheism is a simple disbelief in tired old religious liars and the lies they tell over and over again..

Religious people find disbelief offensive and can't turn off their mental illness. So sad.
Jim

London, UK

#13049 Dec 28, 2013
Religious people are patronising:

When a person is truly suffering, offering them an imaginary creature to talk to, is unkind & thoughtless.

When a person suffers, offering them religion is like offering them drugs to numb the pain, without getting to what the problem really is.

Religious people have already decided that the problem is 'lack of god' without ever hearing people out.

The religious mental illness must be stopped for the good of humankind.

I ask religious people to challenge themselves and provide religion-free help to those in need this holiday season.

Stop counting converts and start helping people.
Jim

London, UK

#13050 Dec 28, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...."Jimbo" ...You are being intellectually dishonest , bloke...
Albert , was obviously a Deist .....
He did not worship God ...but, neither did he reject the existence of a supreme being ..
"About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the Church... As long as I can remember. I have resented mass indoctrination. I cannot prove to you there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws" (1954).[64] "

Albert Einstein

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Einstein said people who talk about god are to be regarded as liars, which is what I have been saying all along.
Jim

London, UK

#13051 Dec 28, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
Albert Einstein called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.
Einstein rejected the label atheist. Einstein stated: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist.
Einstein struggled with religious liars misquoting him all his life:

"I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... It is always misleading to use anthropomorphical concepts in dealing with things outside the human sphere—childish analogies. We have to admire in humility and beautiful harmony of the structure of this world—as far as we can grasp it. And that is all."[24]

Albert Einstein

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When humanity finds someone amazing, religion is quick to try to take ownership of it.
Jim

London, UK

#13052 Dec 28, 2013
Here Einstein refers to religion has 'childish analogies'

Its very clear that Einstein was an atheist who was deeply critical of religion, especially Christianity.

He has already seen the effects of Christianity on Hitler during the war time and what damage it caused.
LCNin

United States

#13053 Dec 28, 2013
Einstein rejected the label atheist.

Einstein stated: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one.

You may call me an agnostic,
but

I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist.
Jim

London, UK

#13054 Dec 28, 2013
LCNin wrote:
Einstein rejected the label atheist.
Einstein stated: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one.
You may call me an agnostic,
but
I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist.
LCN, its your mental illness that prevents you from accepting black & white text to the contrary:

"I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... It is always misleading to use anthropomorphical concepts in dealing with things outside the human sphere—childish analogies. We have to admire in humility and beautiful harmony of the structure of this world—as far as we can grasp it. And that is all."[24]

Albert Einstein 1954
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Your argument is finished, no evidence for god AND Eintein says your cult are bunch liars.

Go, on give us some more queen-spam and see if it makes your Creationist halfwits look any smarter here...
Jim

London, UK

#13055 Dec 28, 2013
LCN, look carefully at Einstein's last sentence"

"And that is all."

Why can't you just walk away from what he said about your cult? Can't you take a little bit of cricism from one of the world's most intelligent person?

After all, it was you who arrogantly brought up Einstein with the view of arguing against Atheism.

How quiet you have become now that Einstein's view is so plain and clear to see:

"As long as I can remember. I have resented mass indoctrination. I cannot prove to you there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar."

Albert Einstein 1954

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PS: suck it creationist liars!
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#13058 Dec 30, 2013
So because most AIDS victims are believers, you think your god wants us to just let them die?

No way. We'll beat AIDS.

I'm better than you.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>.. Yes , there are times when we are burdens and or become dependent on others ....it's absurd to believe they then have the right to kill us ....
A.I.D.S research is a "waste" of money .
LCNin

United States

#13059 Dec 30, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So because most AIDS victims are believers, you think your god wants us to just let them die?
No way. We'll beat AIDS.
I'm better than you.
<quoted text>
AIDS research should be supported by all who believe in human progress.
Attacking people with AIDS is Westboro Baptist Hatred.
Civilized people abhor this!

Peace

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13060 Dec 30, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So because most AIDS victims are believers, you think your god wants us to just let them die?
No way. We'll beat AIDS.
I'm better than you.
<quoted text>
Yes indeedy-- science,**again** will fix things where these things, these... gods, fall woefully short.

Science has managed to fabricate amazingly useful artificial limbs to replace the missing or faulty biological ones that ... ahem ... "god" has made by mistake.

In fact? Some of these **scientific** legs actually perform better in many ways, than the "god designed" biological ones they replaced.

Science marches forward-- sometimes stumbling, but always and overall, forward.

Religion? Seeks to march **backwards**, but failing that, will try to stem the tide of forward marching by **holding**back**-- back to the Stone Age from whence religion sprang.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13061 Dec 30, 2013
LCNin wrote:
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AIDS research should be supported by all who believe in human progress.
Attacking people with AIDS is Westboro Baptist Hatred.
Civilized people abhor this!
Peace
Again, you surprise me, LCNin.

I agree 100% with your post above.

Peace to you and your family as well.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#13062 Dec 30, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...Countless studies have asserted artificial contraception ...has proved to be detrimental to the long term health of women ...
abortion is an act of violence ...against the most defenseless of all living creatures ..
If you assert human rights to be of import ....then , you must agree the right to "life" is the most basic of all our rights .
What if the woman has been raped and does not want the baby or by giving birth, she is putting her life in danger, what happens then?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13063 Dec 30, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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What if the woman has been raped and does not want the baby or by giving birth, she is putting her life in danger, what happens then?
According to Number Four (obviously a reference to his IQ) then the woman just dies.

And, naturally,'Four would celebrate another anti-abortion "victory"..

.. meh.

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