Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12674 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#12915 Dec 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I don't. I'm sorry you are retarded.
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...apology ....accepted .
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#12916 Dec 18, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Christianity is the answer...for the gullible.
..see ; you are wrong ....there is "no" proof of God ....Christianity , is the answer ...for those who choose faith ...

atheism is the answer ...for those, who choose money .
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#12917 Dec 18, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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People are homeless for several reasons, mental illness happens to be one of them. Quit making excuses for men and women of god who have taken advantage of those who are helpless - shame on you. I do not hold you in high regard as I once did. And shame on the Catholic church because Mother Theresa was saint either.....she had a fetish for suffering!!
...well , I too ....I TOO ..!...used to hold "you" in high regard ...!

You're "a" Canadian ....HAVEN'T YOU HEARD OF " sugar coating "...?!?...with "your" hurtful "bluntness" ....you might as well be an American ....

How do you , like those apples ...?
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#12918 Dec 18, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Neither of these is what **you** think it is, Oh Most Ignorant Of All Science.
For one?
The so-called "mitochondrial eve" and "y-chromosomal adam" did not live at the same time-- millions of generations apart.
For another? These are **representative**, and not all-inclusive.
Humans came from a **group** of earlier hominids-- there was no single individual.
For one thing? The entire human genome is not sequenced-- just a few **representative** individuals are.
Much of the general population has gene sequences that are unknown to scientific study.
You are so incredibly **ignorant** on the subject, it is quite sad.
..OKAY..!!...This debate has become superfluous ...

There's even new studies that claim "mitochdrial" and "y-chromosomal" ....may have been contemporary ...

But, that's not my point ...my point is ..YOU GUY'S "DON'T" KNOW .....nobody does ...!!

Your theory of "evolution" ....Is : the Earth wasn't created in 6 days ...THAT'S "ALL" YOU PEOPLE HAVE ...!!!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#12919 Dec 18, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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wasn't created and instead of using a god of the gaps say don't know
...It is "impossible" to believe ....the Universe "just" began ...

A quantum explosion ..??...gave birth to a stable environment universe ......REALLY...?!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12920 Dec 18, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
And shame on the Catholic church because Mother Theresa was saint either.....she had a fetish for suffering!!
For Hitchens to attempt to equate mother Teresa with evil, he has to explain to us how her open-service for all these decades involving thousands of workers, reporters, those who helped and being helped had failed to produce criticism such as that from recent atheists like Hitchens. People are not stupid or heartless who works around her, it didn't have to wait until Hitchens come for her 'evil' to get exposed - she didn't control a military, no critics had to fear her so much not to report her decades ago.

Surely I too can pick things that Mother Teresa didn't do rightly, as I can do perhaps on anyone, but Hitchens attack was like "none of the good things you heard about Mother Teresa was true", and what surprised me is atheists are supporting statement like this, as if Hitchens was the only observer of her in mother Teresa's many decades of service. Surely there are things that mother Teresa may not have handled in the best of ways, but Hitchens attempt to equate her to the most evil of all people, as he did in some interviews, just showed what it was about - like many of his debates I listened to - all out attempt to speak against all religions.

This article responds to people like Hitchens:

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2013/0...
Jim

Stanmore, UK

#12922 Dec 18, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..see ; you are wrong ....there is "no" proof of God ....Christianity , is the answer ...for those who choose faith ...
atheism is the answer ...for those, who choose money .
Atheism is disbelief in religious fraud.
Jim

Stanmore, UK

#12923 Dec 18, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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For Hitchens to attempt to equate mother Teresa with evil, he has to explain to us how her open-service for all these decades involving thousands of workers, reporters, those who helped and being helped had failed to produce criticism such as that from recent atheists like Hitchens. People are not stupid or heartless who works around her, it didn't have to wait until Hitchens come for her 'evil' to get exposed - she didn't control a military, no critics had to fear her so much not to report her decades ago.
Surely I too can pick things that Mother Teresa didn't do rightly, as I can do perhaps on anyone, but Hitchens attack was like "none of the good things you heard about Mother Teresa was true", and what surprised me is atheists are supporting statement like this, as if Hitchens was the only observer of her in mother Teresa's many decades of service. Surely there are things that mother Teresa may not have handled in the best of ways, but Hitchens attempt to equate her to the most evil of all people, as he did in some interviews, just showed what it was about - like many of his debates I listened to - all out attempt to speak against all religions.
This article responds to people like Hitchens:
http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2013/0...
As usual, all talk and no evidence from defeated theists who don't respect or understand science.
Jim

Stanmore, UK

#12924 Dec 18, 2013
We're not sure why theists spam the forum. Maybe they know atheism is correct already?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12925 Dec 19, 2013
Jim wrote:
As usual, all talk and no evidence from defeated theists who don't respect or understand science.
We're not talking about theism or science, Sir Skeptic. I am not a catholic, but if Mother Teresa was an atheist I would defend her equally against such irresponsible accusation as that from Hitchens et.al.

Taken from the link:

After studying their report—twenty-seven pages in French—I sought out people who had known Mother Teresa, or been involved with her cause to inquire about its charges. Every single one of them told me that the Mother Teresa presented by the Canadian researchers was unrecognizable from the one they encountered, and to prove it, provided point by point rebuttals to their accusations.

Fr. Peter Gumpel, an official at the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, told me that far from overlooking criticism of Mother Teresa, the allegations were taken quite seriously, and answered:

There are mistakes made in even the most modern medical facilities, but whenever a correction was needed, Mother and the Missionaries showed themselves alert and open to constructive change and improvement. What many do not understand is the desperate conditions Mother Teresa constantly faced, and that her special charism was not to found or run hospitals—the Church has many who do that—but to rescue those who were given no chance of surviving, and otherwise would have died on the street.

But it is “absolutely false,” he stressed, to claim that she rejected or neglected available medical care for those still treatable, or good palliative care for the terminally ill.“Beware of anecdotal stories circulating from disgruntled people or those with an anti-Catholic agenda,” he warned.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#12926 Dec 19, 2013
Mother Teresa hurt so many. I've read the reports on the torture she inflicted.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not talking about theism or science, Sir Skeptic. I am not a catholic, but if Mother Teresa was an atheist I would defend her equally against such irresponsible accusation as that from Hitchens et.al.
Taken from the link:
After studying their report—twenty-seven pages in French—I sought out people who had known Mother Teresa, or been involved with her cause to inquire about its charges. Every single one of them told me that the Mother Teresa presented by the Canadian researchers was unrecognizable from the one they encountered, and to prove it, provided point by point rebuttals to their accusations.
Fr. Peter Gumpel, an official at the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, told me that far from overlooking criticism of Mother Teresa, the allegations were taken quite seriously, and answered:
There are mistakes made in even the most modern medical facilities, but whenever a correction was needed, Mother and the Missionaries showed themselves alert and open to constructive change and improvement. What many do not understand is the desperate conditions Mother Teresa constantly faced, and that her special charism was not to found or run hospitals—the Church has many who do that—but to rescue those who were given no chance of surviving, and otherwise would have died on the street.
But it is “absolutely false,” he stressed, to claim that she rejected or neglected available medical care for those still treatable, or good palliative care for the terminally ill.“Beware of anecdotal stories circulating from disgruntled people or those with an anti-Catholic agenda,” he warned.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12927 Dec 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Mother Teresa hurt so many. I've read the reports on the torture she inflicted.
The Missionaries of Charity, the organisation founded by the late Mother Teresa to help the poor and dying, was facing grave embarrassment last night after the order and one of its nuns were accused of torturing a seven-year-old girl.

The nun who allegedly carried out the torture, Sister Francesco, has mysteriously vanished. The order's head, Sister Nirmala, was summoned on Friday by a court in Calcutta in connection with the allegation. She was given conditional bail in the sum of $110 (£79) and asked to return on October 2.

...

Although the order was accused before her death three years ago of unwisely accepting donations from dictators and crooks, this is the first time in 50 years an allegation of abuse has been made against it.

...

www.theguardian.com/world/2000/sep/20/raekhap...

Now think about this sentence:

"this is the first time in 50 years an allegation of abuse has been made against it"

1. It was done by one of her many workers (don't you expect the possibility of this?)

2. It shows there are people involved that would report abuses if it took place regularly

3. There were no allegation of abuse for 50 years

If you're sitting on your chair too comfortably, maybe you can go to Calcutta to start an organization of that size that won't involve human failure.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#12928 Dec 19, 2013
The regular withholding of pain killers from the terminally ill is the torture I was referring to, but thanks for the added abuse info.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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The Missionaries of Charity, the organisation founded by the late Mother Teresa to help the poor and dying, was facing grave embarrassment last night after the order and one of its nuns were accused of torturing a seven-year-old girl.
The nun who allegedly carried out the torture, Sister Francesco, has mysteriously vanished. The order's head, Sister Nirmala, was summoned on Friday by a court in Calcutta in connection with the allegation. She was given conditional bail in the sum of $110 (£79) and asked to return on October 2.
...
Although the order was accused before her death three years ago of unwisely accepting donations from dictators and crooks, this is the first time in 50 years an allegation of abuse has been made against it.
...
www.theguardian.com/world/2000/sep/20/raekhap...
Now think about this sentence:
"this is the first time in 50 years an allegation of abuse has been made against it"
1. It was done by one of her many workers (don't you expect the possibility of this?)
2. It shows there are people involved that would report abuses if it took place regularly
3. There were no allegation of abuse for 50 years
If you're sitting on your chair too comfortably, maybe you can go to Calcutta to start an organization of that size that won't involve human failure.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12929 Dec 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The regular withholding of pain killers from the terminally ill is the torture I was referring to, but thanks for the added abuse info.
Wasn't it easier to torture them by leaving them on the streets rather than taking them in and feeding them?

Teddy have this to say to the man on a couch:

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/02/28/manv...

The Man in The Arena

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#12930 Dec 19, 2013
Pretending to care was a great way for the church to launder money.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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Wasn't it easier to torture them by leaving them on the streets rather than taking them in and feeding them?
Teddy have this to say to the man on a couch:
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/02/28/manv...
The Man in The Arena
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12931 Dec 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Pretending to care was a great way for the church to launder money.
Would you go live your whole life there for any amount of money?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12932 Dec 19, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
The Man in The Arena
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
The Man in The Arena:

mother Teresa, Jim Elliot, Joseph Damien, David Livingstone, Hudson Taylor and more, all of whom left the comfort of their home to serve people on another planet...

www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNOFTIOER5...

www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T437QQV3C9...

The man who wasn't there:

www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/10/h...

Really fed up with "some" atheists who only care about attacking and brush away things that they should be grateful for.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#12933 Dec 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Mother Teresa hurt so many. I've read the reports on the torture she inflicted.
<quoted text>
and she was greedy and when she fell ill she got the best and most expensive healthcare in the whole world

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#12934 Dec 19, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
The Man in The Arena:
mother Teresa, Jim Elliot, Joseph Damien, David Livingstone, Hudson Taylor and more, all of whom left the comfort of their home to serve people on another planet...
www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNOFTIOER5...
www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T437QQV3C9...
The man who wasn't there:
www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/10/h...
Really fed up with "some" atheists who only care about attacking and brush away things that they should be grateful for.
you believe in catholic propaganda

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12935 Dec 19, 2013
Mikko wrote:
and she was greedy and when she fell ill she got the best and most expensive healthcare in the whole world
Isn't it amazing that one would notice a few instances of her getting "luxury" treatment or air-plane seats but not noticing her life-long not so luxury living and living among the poorest? Are you going to argue next why didn't all her patients get the same healthcare?

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