..Wow.."Rusty Tin Can" ..You, are way more generous than 'we' deserve ; you make "-Skeptic-" sound as though he is willing to defend his position ...<quoted text>
Madam Skeptic seems to be hardwired with this circular circuit to repeat a nonsensical statement over and over.
She must step outside of her brain to realize the internal limitations of the system. Much like Godel's Incompleteness theorem imply, we would never be able to mathematically or logically prove certain truth statements from within the system. There is a limit to human knowables (but well, there isn't a limit to infinite looping as -Skeptic- and Bob repeatedly illustrated here)
It is interesting to me that some atheists seem to believe that they don't have the burden of the proof (which I haven't asked them for), but only interested in shifting the impossible burden to others to prove the unprovable. I for one wants to know their "proof" for abiogenesis, and how everything "unconscious" - individual atoms and energy work togather to produce "consciousness" that is capable to be so "delusional" to think that it transcends its lifeless building blocks. This, on top of many probabilistic issues dues to the complexity of the system, have put atheists in a very indefensible position, and much like their use of the "god of the gap" to mock theists, they are "appealing to the future" for the evidence of a proof... which ultimately makes Atheism just another "Faith", rather than a scientific fact.
Richard Lewontin, an American evolutionary biologist and geneticist said in one article:
"we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
This man wants "proof" ; and who doesn't ..?
(for "-Skeptic-" ,but then we become a religion of "signs" , not faith )