Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12665 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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LCN Llin

United States

#10907 Aug 6, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
boring looping vinyl record
Has been for a while ;-)

Since: Apr 12

San Francisco, CA

#10908 Aug 6, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Has been for a while ;-)
so sad, but it might be our fault that we accidentally observed him that caused that reality to collapse. He might be a Richard Feynman in another universe we couldn't observe.
LCN Llin

United States

#10909 Aug 6, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
so sad, but it might be our fault that we accidentally observed him that caused that reality to collapse. He might be a Richard Feynman in another universe we couldn't observe.
....is quite observable ;-)
Thinking

Royston, UK

#10910 Aug 6, 2013
Feynman was a truly brilliant Atheist.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
so sad, but it might be our fault that we accidentally observed him that caused that reality to collapse. He might be a Richard Feynman in another universe we couldn't observe.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10911 Aug 6, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
so sad, but it might be our fault that we accidentally observed him that caused that reality to collapse. He might be a Richard Feynman in another universe we couldn't observe.
You still haven't manged to refute my point, that an all-knowing god is simply impossible in the current universe.

I'll accept your pathetic attempts to be "insulting" as your capitulation.

Since: Apr 12

Danville, CA

#10912 Aug 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Feynman was a truly brilliant Atheist.
oops, sorry my math was a little off, it wouldn't be Feynman, but Bob branched off to another universe to become a pastor singing "Onward Christian Soldiers"...

Of course Feynman was an atheist, but perhaps Bob can lecture him about how to disprove god... as Feynman once said this:

"I do not believe that science can disprove the existence of God; I think that is impossible. And if it is impossible, is not a belief in science and in a God -- an ordinary God of religion -- a consistent possibility?... Yes, it is consistent. Despite the fact that I said that more than half of the scientists don't believe in God, many scientists do believe in both science and God, in a perfectly consistent way. But this consistency, although possible, is not easy to attain..."

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10913 Aug 7, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
oops, sorry my math was a little off, it wouldn't be Feynman, but Bob branched off to another universe to become a pastor singing "Onward Christian Soldiers"...
Of course Feynman was an atheist, but perhaps Bob can lecture him about how to disprove god... as Feynman once said this:
"I do not believe that science can disprove the existence of God; I think that is impossible. And if it is impossible, is not a belief in science and in a God -- an ordinary God of religion -- a consistent possibility?... Yes, it is consistent. Despite the fact that I said that more than half of the scientists don't believe in God, many scientists do believe in both science and God, in a perfectly consistent way. But this consistency, although possible, is not easy to attain..."
But which god is it that you want disproven? There are just so many, and all of them are equally silly. Do you know of one, maybe somewhat less ridiculous than the rest?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#10914 Aug 7, 2013
The last sentence explains why so many religitards struggle to accept Evolution, but most scientists who also believe in some form of god embrace Evolution wholeheartedly.

The implication is that the ones that can't embrace Evolution are not able to follow the scientific method.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
oops, sorry my math was a little off, it wouldn't be Feynman, but Bob branched off to another universe to become a pastor singing "Onward Christian Soldiers"...
Of course Feynman was an atheist, but perhaps Bob can lecture him about how to disprove god... as Feynman once said this:
"I do not believe that science can disprove the existence of God; I think that is impossible. And if it is impossible, is not a belief in science and in a God -- an ordinary God of religion -- a consistent possibility?... Yes, it is consistent. Despite the fact that I said that more than half of the scientists don't believe in God, many scientists do believe in both science and God, in a perfectly consistent way. But this consistency, although possible, is not easy to attain..."
LCN Llin

United States

#10915 Aug 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The last sentence explains why so many religitards struggle to accept Evolution, but most scientists who also believe in some form of god embrace Evolution wholeheartedly.
The implication is that the ones that can't embrace Evolution are not able to follow the scientific method.
<quoted text>
The truth of evolution does not prove atheism.
LCN Llin

United States

#10916 Aug 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You still haven't manged to refute my point, that an all-knowing god is simply impossible in the current universe.
I'll accept your pathetic attempts to be "insulting" as your capitulation.
God, by Any definition, is impossible.
Guess we take your word for this?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#10917 Aug 7, 2013
Are you saying Atheism doesn't exist?
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth of evolution does not prove atheism.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#10918 Aug 7, 2013
Prove it.
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
God, by Any definition, is impossible.

Since: Apr 12

San Francisco, CA

#10921 Aug 7, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Onward Christian Soldiers"...
LOL
Don't laugh, I think it would sound heavenly when Bob sings it...(with his "militant" style)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

This hymn was sung at the fun­er­al of Amer­i­can pre­si­dent Dwight Ei­sen­how­er at the Na­tion­al Ca­thed­ral, Wash­ing­ton, DC, March 1969.

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/n/onwardcs.h...

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!

Refrain

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.

Refrain

Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.

Refrain

What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.

Refrain

Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.

Refrain

Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honor unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.

Refrain

Since: Apr 12

San Francisco, CA

#10923 Aug 7, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
fascinating ! Music for the soul?
Never mind... not my fav hymn either.

2nd thought, Bob may sing this with more "spirit"



Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
Scoop, Muck and Dizzy
And Roley too,
Lofty and Wendy
Join the crew.
Bob and the gang
Have so much fun,
Working together
They get the job done.
Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
Pilchard and Bird
Travis and Spud,
Playing together
Like good friends should.
Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10925 Aug 7, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
oops, sorry my math was a little off, it wouldn't be Feynman, but Bob branched off to another universe to become a pastor singing "Onward Christian Soldiers"...
Of course Feynman was an atheist, but perhaps Bob can lecture him about how to disprove god... as Feynman once said this:
"I do not believe that science can disprove the existence of God; I think that is impossible. And if it is impossible, is not a belief in science and in a God -- an ordinary God of religion -- a consistent possibility?... Yes, it is consistent. Despite the fact that I said that more than half of the scientists don't believe in God, many scientists do believe in both science and God, in a perfectly consistent way. But this consistency, although possible, is not easy to attain..."
He wasn't speaking about **your** godling, silly.

He was obviously speaking in the purely **general** sense-- in the abstract.

But nobody worships an abstract deity.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10926 Aug 7, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't laugh, I think it would sound heavenly when Bob sings it...(with his "militant" style)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
This hymn was sung at the fun­er­al of Amer­i­can pre­si­dent Dwight Ei­sen­how­er at the Na­tion­al Ca­thed­ral, Wash­ing­ton, DC, March 1969.
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/n/onwardcs.h...
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!
Refrain
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
Refrain
Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
Refrain
What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.
Refrain
Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.
Refrain
Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honor unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.
Refrain
The song is an **excellent** example of why Genuine Christianity™ is just another hate-cult.

A nice war theme-- implications of Genuine Christians™ persecuting/killing any and all non-christians.

Classic militant christian music.

All in keeping with their theme of "God is love".

Orwell understood what they really meant...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10927 Aug 7, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
Never mind... not my fav hymn either.
2nd thought, Bob may sing this with more "spirit"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =dO_PL3V1c4YXX
Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
Scoop, Muck and Dizzy
And Roley too,
Lofty and Wendy
Join the crew.
Bob and the gang
Have so much fun,
Working together
They get the job done.
Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
Pilchard and Bird
Travis and Spud,
Playing together
Like good friends should.
Bob the Builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
Your continued off-topic and toddleresq posts do not address my point:

An omniscient god is impossible in a quantum mechanical universe.

Our universe exists--and is quantum mechanical.

Therefore? No omniscient gods are possible.
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#10928 Aug 7, 2013
The three monotheistic religions call on their faithful to renounce life in the here and now because they will one day force to accept its loss. Their glorification of a fictional beyond prevents full enjoyment of the (real) here below. All three of them are death cults.

What is religion? A maid kept close that no eye may view her;
The price of her wedding gifts and dowry baffles the wooer.
Of all the goodly doctrine that I from the pulpit heard
My heart has never accepted so much as a single word.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10930 Aug 7, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't laugh, I think it would sound heavenly when Bob sings it...(with his "militant" style)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
This hymn was sung at the fun­er­al of Amer­i­can pre­si­dent Dwight Ei­sen­how­er at the Na­tion­al Ca­thed­ral, Wash­ing­ton, DC, March 1969.
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/n/onwardcs.h...
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!
Refrain
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
Refrain
Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
Refrain
What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.
Refrain
Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.
Refrain
Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honor unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.
Refrain
Not proof of any god, no matter how often or where is was sung. And Puff the Magic Dragon still does not exist. Songs do not create reality.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10931 Aug 7, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
Pick one God then work down the list?
So they are equally silly? Well let's start with Jehovah, he was beaten by the iron chariot. Respond.

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