Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12667 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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Thinking

UK

#10721 Jul 31, 2013
Well, since most people on the planet don't believe in your god, why not have a christian child, a buddhist child and a hindu child instead of all three the same religion?
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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Are you then sure imposition of atheistic worldview to your kids is not a form of "abusive" indoctrination?
No, denying your children from what one know positively affects oneself is a form of child abuse. Parents naturally go with what they believe is best for their childre, and no one would call you an abuser for denying your children a theistic worldview that has proven to help kids in positive ways. It would be child abuse for parents to go to their churches while leaving the kids behind. It would be child-abuse for parents to live one way while trying to hide it from the children. On simply have to live honorably and honestly, and nothing is preventing the kids from thinking for themselves when they grow up.

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10722 Jul 31, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Well, since most people on the planet don't believe in your god, why not have a christian child, a buddhist child and a hindu child instead of all three the same religion?
So, are you responding to my post or are you still talking to yourself? I have no idea what your point is here.
LCN Llin

United States

#10723 Jul 31, 2013
Thinking wrote:
It can be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jdkN57xvekIXX
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OK had to look this up.:-)
Enjoyed your post and watched another episode on youtube

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LCN Llin

United States

#10724 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a little confused by what is going on in this thread...
Maybe I'm in the wrong thread.
Life is very confusing and then we die!
The United Kingdom has given us the BBC to atone for our various sins, of maybe not.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10725 Jul 31, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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Agree
skeptic seems a creationist troll bent on embarrassing atheists.
Profanity seems his watchword.
All you can play is hopeless games because you know you're a creationist troll liar with no proof of god and nobody takes your stupid cult seriously.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10726 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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I "play victim" in which post? I showed "dishonesty" in which sentence? I "ruthlessly hate" atheists in which revelation?
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Have you read my posts to Quantum Bob, do you really know my position enough? If you are speaking on behalf of Quantum Bob, answer to the points of mys respond instead of cheap accusations. My initial post to Quantum Bob was just a friendly FYI post to clear up the thread-entry point assumption. If doing that would cause some atheists to respond in such hateful way, then you have only prove that some atheists are worse than other atheists, and I have always been in nice conversation with other atheists here (in Islam forum).
When you're brave enough the prove the god you're here to lie about to us, your halfwit opinions about atheists might matter more

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10727 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you then sure imposition of atheistic worldview to your kids is not a form of "abusive" indoctrination?
No, denying your children from what one know positively affects oneself is a form of child abuse. Parents naturally go with what they believe is best for their childre, and no one would call you an abuser for denying your children a theistic worldview that has proven to help kids in positive ways. It would be child abuse for parents to go to their churches while leaving the kids behind. It would be child-abuse for parents to live one way while trying to hide it from the children. On simply have to live honorably and honestly, and nothing is preventing the kids from thinking for themselves when they grow up.
Atheism is not a worldview, its a fact. If you can provide evidence for the alternative, you will look less stupid here.
Thinking

UK

#10728 Jul 31, 2013
Are you being deliberately evasive or are you just another religitard?
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
So, are you responding to my post or are you still talking to yourself? I have no idea what your point is here.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10729 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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I'm a little confused by what is going on in this thread...
Maybe I'm in the wrong thread.
You're in the wrong thread - you're looking for the "I'm a weasel with no proof of god or any proper arguments about atheism, but I'll chat self-righteous bullsh*t anyway to prop up the creationist trolls"

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10730 Jul 31, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Are you being deliberately evasive or are you just another religitard?
<quoted text>
Another creationist troll who thinks he's super smart.
LCN Llin

United States

#10731 Jul 31, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
All you can play is hopeless games because you know you're a creationist troll liar with no proof of god and nobody takes your stupid cult seriously.
Thanks! You are always a gentlewoman and positive in your attitudes.
Have a Nice Day

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10732 Jul 31, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Atheism is not a worldview, its a fact.
If you can provide evidence for the alternative, you will look less stupid here.
The claim that "it is fact" comes right out from your worldview too, you know?

If you are so keen on insisting that I prove "God" (which is a nonsense request by definition, and which I see as your convenient one-size-fits-all distraction form real argument), would you then prove your claim that Atheism is a "fact"?

I never claim theism to be a provable fact (I would just as well return to my atheist past if I hold that view), so there is no bravery necessary to admit there can't be a proof. I have discussed this at length with other atheists in the past, tell me why I should waste my time with you after seeing your "sincerity" in responding to posts?

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10733 Jul 31, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Are you being deliberately evasive or are you just another religitard?
no, go back to your response and tell me how it was relevant?

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10734 Jul 31, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Another creationist troll who thinks he's super smart.
oh, I never claimed to be smart in any of these posts... did you see a shadow of it in my posts to cause you to make such "super smart" remark?

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10735 Jul 31, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Life is very confusing and then we die!
The United Kingdom has given us the BBC to atone for our various sins, of maybe not.
UK has given us this genius holding an apple in my avatar. One who contributed so much in defeating Hitler (on top of his many computational and mathematical advances), but sadly was persecuted to his suicide by the very country he helped save - for being a gay.

Avatar picture taken from the statue of Alan Turing in his memorial at Sackville Park, England - as "atonement" for UK's sin of not loving their hero.

But of course, that can be used by atheists to launch attack
against theism...

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#10736 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
UK has given us this genius holding an apple in my avatar. One who contributed so much in defeating Hitler (on top of his many computational and mathematical advances), but sadly was persecuted to his suicide by the very country he helped save - for being a gay.
...
Suicide by eating the cyanide apple in 1954.
LCN Llin

United States

#10737 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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UK has given us this genius holding an apple in my avatar. One who contributed so much in defeating Hitler (on top of his many computational and mathematical advances), but sadly was persecuted to his suicide by the very country he helped save - for being a gay.
Avatar picture taken from the statue of Alan Turing in his memorial at Sackville Park, England - as "atonement" for UK's sin of not loving their hero.
But of course, that can be used by atheists to launch attack
against theism...
Read of his persecution and tragic death.
Thinking

UK

#10738 Jul 31, 2013
I have an issue with religious ghettoisation caused by indoctrinating children into the same faith as their parents.

You said that enforcing no religion until say 16/18/21 was inflexible.

I suggested an alternative methodology.

How was that not relevant?
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
no, go back to your response and tell me how it was relevant?
Thinking

UK

#10739 Jul 31, 2013
Turing's work was amazing.

That said, I would advocate the chemical castration of any believer (usually muslim) that requires women to cover up.
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
<quoted text>
UK has given us this genius holding an apple in my avatar. One who contributed so much in defeating Hitler (on top of his many computational and mathematical advances), but sadly was persecuted to his suicide by the very country he helped save - for being a gay.
Avatar picture taken from the statue of Alan Turing in his memorial at Sackville Park, England - as "atonement" for UK's sin of not loving their hero.
But of course, that can be used by atheists to launch attack
against theism...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10740 Jul 31, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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But your statement about Genuine Christians being hate-cult is as flawed as claiming that if someone believes human will die then that someone must belong to a hate-cult.
Nope.

The fundamental premise of christianity, if you use the bible to justify it's very existence, is that everyone is worth less than pond scum-- just for being born.

They are to be punished (according to christianity) from something a distant ancestor did-- nothing **they** had anything to do with--apart from the arrogance of being born...

More, christianity teaches that everyone is so worthless, that they somehow deserve infinite torture.

As a result of all this ugly, people pretty much consider human life as worth less than nothing.

**THAT** is the core message of christianity.

Sure-- there's a bit more, but that's it's basis.

If you don't believe in hell theology?

You are not a biblical christian-- you're some sort of pick-and-choose "christian" instead.

More to the point? If you ignore the hell bible-bits? You just tossed out 100% of any reason to have your jesus killed in the first place.

Just as without the mythical garden of Eden? You have no basis for your religion at all.

And the Eden story is another tale of failed parenting--no, not Adam or Eve...

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