Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12663 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8861 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..yes, the Red Crescent , Crystal , Cross are meant to convey mercy and absolute neutrality ....
..It was adopted in honor of the Swiss Flag ..(which I'm told ,represent two crossed lines ...)
I'll ask again, why do you claim The Red Cross is a Christian based charity?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#8862 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..You like to call me "liar" ...I have quickly discovered ,trying to get an honest answer from a "free thinker" is harder than herding cats ....
So, I ask what does that "plus sign" represent on the the Swiss Flag and the Swedish Flag ...(Oh , yeah "Mikko" I went there..)..????
It's actually on the web...(but, I think you will ignore this post ..or..worse , lie and claim it meant nothing ...nothing at all ...)
..so , if atheism is "truth" ..WHY ..??..ARE YOU GUYS SUCH COWARDS ..???..I FEEL, AS THOUGH I'M DEALING W/ MUSLIMS ..!!!
That was to Skeptic. He is a different type of atheist - he claims that he knows that he is right and calls you a liar.

Most of us just feel that you are very mistaken and very wrong in your views. But you might sincerely believe them, so I would not think the word "liar" is very polite - it is a personal insult that implies you know you are mistaken and make false claims knowlingly. I don't assume you know any better, so I do not call you a liar, even though I think you are in error.

I do not even call Skeptic a liar, when he claims to know things - I think he truly believes that he knows. I don't think he knows, but he doesn't know that he doesn't know, perhaps.

You will find a big difference between atheists who claim to know, and agnostic atheists who do not claim to know, but also do not believe - not only with regard to the God issue, but with other cosmic type issues. A few of us, like me, are not big believers that science "knows" for sure, either. We just are not bothered by not knowing about certain big questions that don't seem to have a true, knowable answer.

I want to clarify that, so you do not confuse the views of Skeptic at one extreme, with those of other types of atheists and agnostics and real skeptics, who have doubts and are comfortable with not knowing and not claiming to know.
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8863 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Are you positing "that" the entire planet is Christian ...???.."pearl"...do live on one of those polygamist compounds ,and are forbidden from leaving ....You don't seem to know much , about the wider Earth ..most are not Christians ..
No you fool, I'm stating Christianity is at the root of all that is wrong with the world. You know these polygamist compounds are indeed Christian. It is a good example of one of the many things wrong with mono-theism in general. Most of the world population is not Christian, true, yet is Christianity that forces expansion. Your whole culture can only thrive through expansion and consumerism. And you claim it is your God given right, at the cost of any other culture or species. The hand of Christianity is everywhere. It creates famine, overpopulation, greed, and the thinking that one knows a Gods intention, and that has always been destructive.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#8864 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Shirley , you jest ..!..It is "you" who is demanding an end to prayer in public places , removal of crosses and ten commandment stones from federal lands ...
That was to Bob. You do not get what the issue is. It is a matter of respecting the first amendment to the Constitution, and separating church and state. Individuals can pray in a public place, but public officials and public policy cannot sponsor it, and cannot allow it to disrupt the actual purpose and activity in that public place (students cannot disrupt classes by spreading religious propaganda, anymore than they cannot be allowed to play loud music and rap). There is to be no Establishment of religion, either by Congress - or by any government entity in any state or locality (Supreme Court rulings (usually)incorporate protections of freedom of religion and freedom from Establishment and apply it to all government (in most cases - though not when one Justice - Kennedy - wimps out and allows a stone with Ten Commandments promoting a movie on the Texas statehouse grounds) This is not a christian government. A majority of persons in the US may be Christians, but they do not get to force their religion on others by using government power.
You just want to be a bully.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#8865 May 25, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>That was to Skeptic. He is a different type of atheist - he claims that he knows that he is right and calls you a liar.
Unproven rubbish - As an atheist I claim no knowledge.

If you want to show me the proof that "gods are possible" you are welcome to present it. But you can't and you know it and so your claim that I am the one who "know's he's right" is nonsense.

If you want to continue lying in this forum and showing yourself to be and ignorant loon with no morals who can't take the fact that his opinion is ill-formed garbage, then please do so.

After getting rid of Educated What, KJV and Buck Crick, nanoanomaly and Lil Ticked, you will be no problem.
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8866 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..I know there are fascist countries ...in the world ..i live in a secular nation ( the prime minister is half negro )
Okay, there is no hope for this one. Time to move forward.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8867 May 25, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I'll ask again, why do you claim The Red Cross is a Christian based charity?
..IGNORANCE...that means , lack of knowledge ,education or awareness ..
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8868 May 25, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>That was to Skeptic. He is a different type of atheist - he claims that he knows that he is right and calls you a liar.
Most of us just feel that you are very mistaken and very wrong in your views. But you might sincerely believe them, so I would not think the word "liar" is very polite - it is a personal insult that implies you know you are mistaken and make false claims knowlingly. I don't assume you know any better, so I do not call you a liar, even though I think you are in error.
I do not even call Skeptic a liar, when he claims to know things - I think he truly believes that he knows. I don't think he knows, but he doesn't know that he doesn't know, perhaps.
You will find a big difference between atheists who claim to know, and agnostic atheists who do not claim to know, but also do not believe - not only with regard to the God issue, but with other cosmic type issues. A few of us, like me, are not big believers that science "knows" for sure, either. We just are not bothered by not knowing about certain big questions that don't seem to have a true, knowable answer.
I want to clarify that, so you do not confuse the views of Skeptic at one extreme, with those of other types of atheists and agnostics and real skeptics, who have doubts and are comfortable with not knowing and not claiming to know.
..I know "haven't forgotten" ...and , I shouldn't use blanket statements when addressing Atheists ...but, when I get angry ..I kinda want to push some buttons ..
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8869 May 25, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Unproven rubbish - As an atheist I claim no knowledge.
If you want to show me the proof that "gods are possible" you are welcome to present it. But you can't and you know it and so your claim that I am the one who "know's he's right" is nonsense.
If you want to continue lying in this forum and showing yourself to be and ignorant loon with no morals who can't take the fact that his opinion is ill-formed garbage, then please do so.
After getting rid of Educated What, KJV and Buck Crick, nanoanomaly and Lil Ticked, you will be no problem.
...whoa...??...What "DO" you mean "after getting rid of "..(Christian posters)....????

If "you" are killing them ....Let me know "now" ....!!!...and , I will leave this thread ...and , I promise ,I will never come back ..!!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8870 May 25, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>No you fool, I'm stating Christianity is at the root of all that is wrong with the world. You know these polygamist compounds are indeed Christian. It is a good example of one of the many things wrong with mono-theism in general. Most of the world population is not Christian, true, yet is Christianity that forces expansion. Your whole culture can only thrive through expansion and consumerism. And you claim it is your God given right, at the cost of any other culture or species. The hand of Christianity is everywhere. It creates famine, overpopulation, greed, and the thinking that one knows a Gods intention, and that has always been destructive.
..Lesson One ..Grasshopper...) The "root" of all evil ..is the love of money ...

(Nations with a judeo-christian heritage ...are the best in the world ..)
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8871 May 25, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> That was to Bob. You do not get what the issue is. It is a matter of respecting the first amendment to the Constitution, and separating church and state. Individuals can pray in a public place, but public officials and public policy cannot sponsor it, and cannot allow it to disrupt the actual purpose and activity in that public place (students cannot disrupt classes by spreading religious propaganda, anymore than they cannot be allowed to play loud music and rap). There is to be no Establishment of religion, either by Congress - or by any government entity in any state or locality (Supreme Court rulings (usually)incorporate protections of freedom of religion and freedom from Establishment and apply it to all government (in most cases - though not when one Justice - Kennedy - wimps out and allows a stone with Ten Commandments promoting a movie on the Texas statehouse grounds) This is not a christian government. A majority of persons in the US may be Christians, but they do not get to force their religion on others by using government power.
You just want to be a bully.
...I see "two" views ..(I'm assuming "you" can see only one view.)

Keep "religion" out of government ..??...or...Keep "God" out of government ...(For myself , these are totally different questions )....capishe'..??

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#8872 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...whoa...??...What "DO" you mean "after getting rid of "..(Christian posters)....????

If "you" are killing them ....Let me know "now" ....!!!...and , I will leave this thread ...and , I promise ,I will never come back ..!!
He didn't get rid of me, I was in vacation. Lol! You have to consider several things here, these atheists threads are like counseling to them. They have to reassure themselves how smart they think they are. Me, these threads are for entertainment purposes. Look at Sceptic, that poor loon will always have low self esteem, ridicules everyone and lies. But him getting rid of Christians proves that he has the same idea as Hitler. Unlike Givethemliberty who is on here during his so called vacation, I had no time to be on here. It was a great vacation though!

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#8873 May 25, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>He didn't get rid of me, I was in vacation. Lol! You have to consider several things here, these atheists threads are like counseling to them. They have to reassure themselves how smart they think they are. Me, these threads are for entertainment purposes. Look at Sceptic, that poor loon will always have low self esteem, ridicules everyone and lies. But him getting rid of Christians proves that he has the same idea as Hitler. Unlike Givethemliberty who is on here during his so called vacation, I had no time to be on here. It was a great vacation though!
In is on

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#8874 May 25, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
In is on
???

It would seem that with or without a holiday you are still an uneducated twit.
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8875 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..IGNORANCE...that means , lack of knowledge ,education or awareness ..
Oh, well okay then.
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8876 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Lesson One ..Grasshopper...) The "root" of all evil ..is the love of money ...
(Nations with a judeo-christian heritage ...are the best in the world ..)
I'm gonna have to disagree with you again. There is no evil, only ones perspective.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8877 May 25, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I'm gonna have to disagree with you again. There is no evil, only ones perspective.
Oh..??...I thought Christianity "was" evil ...
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#8878 May 25, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, well okay then.
...That's "it" ..??..I don't have to swear fealty ..no forfeiture of my lands .....??

..huh..I appreciate your magnanimity ...!
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#8879 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Oh..??...I thought Christianity "was" evil ...
You must be thinking of someone else. I only claimed Christianity is a dark path. No evil. People are always able to justify their actions, if only to themselves. I don't recall any who did what some would call evil for the sake of evil. Where do you see evil?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#8880 May 25, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Shirley , you jest ..!..It is "you" who is demanding an end to prayer in public places , removal of crosses and ten commandment stones from federal lands ...
Only if the prayers are *mandatory* by *officials*.

Anyone and everyone is free to pray as an *individual* as they see fit.

Bear in mind? Your own "holy" book CONDEMNS public prayers-- your Jesus was definitely AGAINST such behavior.

Here: Matthew 6, 1-7, words of your own Jesus

[QUOTE who="Matt 6,1-7"]
Matthew 6 King James Version (KJV)

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.[/QUOTE]

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