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Aurora Shootings Result Of 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'

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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter.

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“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#256 Jul 31, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
Let me guess you are a Liberal against guns?
Nope. I'm not against guns. Used to own a few.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#260 Jul 31, 2012
mr right ness wrote:
<quoted text>
No one. I've never said i could pull it off, as a matter of fact, i don't walk around armed, i posit SOMEONE could possibly do it. despite the emasculation perpetrated on american males by liberals for 40 years, there are still heroic people out there.
We remember the Caesar's, the Napoleans, the Washington's not the weenies who stayed home.
Sure, if that someone was a navy seal or other highly trained individual. What you posit would be very unlikely and most likely harmful.

Not sure why you're sprattling on about liberals. Just more inane drivel.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#264 Jul 31, 2012
mr right ness wrote:
<quoted text>
because white american liberals are the dumbest group of people who ever lived.
Just how much training does it take to stand there and aim and pull the trigger? Not much, IMO. I'd say my 3 years in the Marines qualifies me. I'll wager you never served, right?
Takes quite a lot. Even police officers freeze in similar situations.

3 years? Thanks for your service. Marines are good marksman, generally. Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine. I'd say he was a good shot.

No, I never served. Not even the Marines would take me due to my bad knees. But My father, my uncle and my grandfather all served. My grandfather drove landing boats at Iwo Jima and a few other battles in the South Pacific.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#265 Aug 1, 2012
Troll Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pax-wv/TLECD7...
There is a little town has something like this brewing it appears be nice to get others views on it, here we answer another views on the matter and whats brewing in another small town.
I agree with you on 2 may points 1.) people should c carry and it should not be anyones business but theirs. 2.) Law Enforcement does need its monopoly taken and more there is no question many have been long corrupt or just incompetent and its long been out of control. Yet there is still yet a 3rd issue many fail to see. Security guards, police are not mind readers much as we'd like them to be there just not. Even bad cops wanna catch bad guys to get brownie points and rank and pay raises. Good cops have to follow the rules which in most cases they nor their eyes and brains can be in some many places at once. Its a citizens duty to protect their own life because even a planned murder such as this had to be. Sorry but police of a town can not be expected to be mind readers and know when some nut job is planning to strike out at innocent citizens. Anyone who thinks it solves something to take the life of another is grossly blind and demented or defective in some great way. Another little town nut case brewing and has been so a good while and the evil comments only have been getting worse. All people there seem to be able to do is sit wait listen. If the guy makes a physical move law would have just cause to perhaps arrest him but as long as he just post on topix nothing can be done except what a few citizens have done which is confront him instead of being trolled and bullied they bully the bullies back they tried the ignore them route this one who calls himself score keeper is the worst. The last couple months he has gone from cat killing and feeding kids used condoms to keeping dead women and kids in his basement and sleeping with the dead hookers and ex-wives he calls them to planting booby trap bombs around his home and daring people. Then his latest threat he is going to make these killings look small. You have to read over a few threads to find his statements all and some he had deleted. Some people seem to be defending this nut job even some unknown preacher got into the threats after a few good troll busting citizens had put this troll and monster back in his cage a good while busting his every move fighting fire with fire. Now this wanna be preacher let the nut out of his cage and he's taken a whole new nasty and violent approach to his trolling and cyber bullying people and some feel its all tell tale warming signs. He has somehow re-fueled his threats due to this preachers presents and the preacher is defending the guy and himself saying he is not to blame this guy got out of his cage and is acting all crazy and violent on topix and making death threats and daring people to come get him he has their grave dug coffins ready. Personally don't trust the man or the preacher who cares less who he gets hurt so long as he can spread the word its not his fault its drawn this lunatic who has threatened lives shot into a building not knowing who was in there an got away with it according to witnesses. The people are getting their butts whipped there on their topix forum of by this lunatics group of defenders. All the threads in that town are a interesting read.
That would distinguish them form this one, which I only skimmed due its unstructured rambling and lack of paragraphs. I wouldn't normally comment on that except that you wrote it in response to one of my posts. You should know that I generally skip very long posts with no paragraph structure.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#266 Aug 1, 2012
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
Takes quite a lot. Even police officers freeze in similar situations.
3 years? Thanks for your service. Marines are good marksman, generally. Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine. I'd say he was a good shot.
No, I never served. Not even the Marines would take me due to my bad knees. But My father, my uncle and my grandfather all served. My grandfather drove landing boats at Iwo Jima and a few other battles in the South Pacific.
REally. My dad was an LST driver at Okinawa.
redneck

Glendale, OR

#267 Aug 1, 2012
I understand that the movie shooter spoke with god before he did it.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#272 Aug 1, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
REally. My dad was an LST driver at Okinawa.
No kidding? That's cool. Not sure if my grandpa was at Okinawa.Could have been, that's for sure.

Since: Mar 11

Lewis Center, OH

#275 Aug 1, 2012
George Norry and Art Bell are kooks you know that right?

Sigh who would have guessed the ant people defender believes in a massive Zionist conspiracy? Probably believes in reptile people rule the world in secret as well.

Btw how would you go about telling the difference between a microwave old woman ghost vs a microwave old man ghost? Do you lift their ghost skirt and look? Lmfao!!!
HugeKielbasa wrote:
<quoted text>
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Good read!
Written by the Russian Pyotr Rachkovsky with an obvious Polish surname!
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion = Fiction?
I think not it seems to be a Semi truth of fiction.
Much like Orwell's 1984 & Animal farm were a Semi truth of fiction.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#276 Aug 2, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
<quoted text>
...Why does Scotland have the highest murder rate but lowest gun ownership rate in the U.K & Western Europe?..[murder] is okay as long as you don't kill with a gun!
Scotland has the second highest murder rate in Europe...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/sep/26/ukcr...
Another study from the University of California, to be published later this year, will claim Scotland has a higher homicide rate than America, Israel, Uzbekistan, Chile and Uruguay.

This suggests murder rate Scotland incr from 1.59 to 2.1 per 100,000 in 2005-6...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotla...

This suggests the murder rate in 2006 was 1.1 per 100,000 for Scotland and 5.1 for USA..
http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/...

My understanding is that the murder rate in Scotland is little higher than in England and far less than in the USA. I cannot find the Californian Study that ‘was going to’ show that the murder rate is higher in Scotland than in the USA. Clearly, gun-crime is far higher in the USA.

There were 154 shootings in which people were killed or injured last year.(Recent years figure ranges from 138 to 212 killed and injured). I think 4 of the 154 were fatal.
Scotland has a population of about 5 millions.

Firearms alone killed (never mind injured) 8775 in 2010. USA Pop, about 315millions?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/...

According to Wiki, the murder rate in Scotland is generally in the region of 0.5 to 0.6 per 100,000 of population.(A bit lower in Eng & Wales). It’s about twenty times that in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...

Gun licences in Scotland are £50, about the cost of a black&white TV licence. The TV licence fee to pay for the BBC is £145.50 for a colour licence. The Scottish Nat Party are looking to increase this £50 gun fee.

Statistics are only a part of the picture of course. One can believe that relatively unrestricted firearms access makes sense if one wishes to (and the NRA may finance support for that view), but I find it hard to see that as an unbiased opinion..
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF04.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...

Only a fool fools oneself. I suggest people try to take an entirely objective look at the situation, unencumbered by traditions, constitutions, or cultural influences. Any google search seems to indicate that the situation in some US cities is still relatively dire.(e.g. District of Columbia comes out top - with 16 firearms murders per 100,000 man, woman and child in the state). No Scottish city has a problem remotely on that scale.
From:
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homep...
There were 78 killings in the country last year — a decrease of nearly a FIFTH on 2008. But the stats show Scotland is still the seventh deadliest country in Europe. And more than a quarter of the killings happened in Glasgow, with a new victim every two and a half weeks. Unquote.
(Glasgow pop is nearly 600,000).
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#277 Aug 2, 2012
(Note: 78 killings, not gun-killings)
Brad

Manchester, CT

#278 Aug 2, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
Scotland has the second highest murder rate in Europe...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/sep/26/ukcr...
Another study from the University of California, to be published later this year, will claim Scotland has a higher homicide rate than America, Israel, Uzbekistan, Chile and Uruguay.
This suggests murder rate Scotland incr from 1.59 to 2.1 per 100,000 in 2005-6...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotla...
This suggests the murder rate in 2006 was 1.1 per 100,000 for Scotland and 5.1 for USA..
http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/...
My understanding is that the murder rate in Scotland is little higher than in England and far less than in the USA. I cannot find the Californian Study that ‘was going to’ show that the murder rate is higher in Scotland than in the USA. Clearly, gun-crime is far higher in the USA.
There were 154 shootings in which people were killed or injured last year.(Recent years figure ranges from 138 to 212 killed and injured). I think 4 of the 154 were fatal.
Scotland has a population of about 5 millions.
Firearms alone killed (never mind injured) 8775 in 2010. USA Pop, about 315millions?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/...
According to Wiki, the murder rate in Scotland is generally in the region of 0.5 to 0.6 per 100,000 of population.(A bit lower in Eng & Wales). It’s about twenty times that in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
Gun licences in Scotland are £50, about the cost of a black&white TV licence. The TV licence fee to pay for the BBC is £145.50 for a colour licence. The Scottish Nat Party are looking to increase this £50 gun fee.
Statistics are only a part of the picture of course. One can believe that relatively unrestricted firearms access makes sense if one wishes to (and the NRA may finance support for that view), but I find it hard to see that as an unbiased opinion..
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF04.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
Only a fool fools oneself. I suggest people try to take an entirely objective look at the situation, unencumbered by traditions, constitutions, or cultural influences. Any google search seems to indicate that the situation in some US cities is still relatively dire.(e.g. District of Columbia comes out top - with 16 firearms murders per 100,000 man, woman and child in the state). No Scottish city has a problem remotely on that scale.
From:
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homep...
There were 78 killings in the country last year — a decrease of nearly a FIFTH on 2008. But the stats show Scotland is still the seventh deadliest country in Europe. And more than a quarter of the killings happened in Glasgow, with a new victim every two and a half weeks. Unquote.
(Glasgow pop is nearly 600,000).
So whats the moral of this story?

Does this train of thought have a caboose?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#279 Aug 2, 2012
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
So whats the moral of this story?
Does this train of thought have a caboose?
Replying to a previous comment that suggested that the murder rate in Scotland was higher than that of the USA. I was just assessing validity of the statement and that comment appears to be unfounded.

I think the implication of the facts in my post suggest that gun control leads to far less gun-crime and probably fewer murders and gun-killing sprees.

I care little for the traditions of the USA or Scotland, only the truth regarding the question at hand.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#280 Aug 2, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Replying to a previous comment that suggested that the murder rate in Scotland was higher than that of the USA. I was just assessing validity of the statement and that comment appears to be unfounded.
I think the implication of the facts in my post suggest that gun control leads to far less gun-crime and probably fewer murders and gun-killing sprees.
I care little for the traditions of the USA or Scotland, only the truth regarding the question at hand.
The history of the world shows us people will always find a way to kill each other,the vehicle is moot.
The murder rate in the US goes up as the rate of different cultures increase.
Gun Nut

Lewis Center, OH

#281 Aug 2, 2012
If you live in a gated hated/white civilized community, where everyone is elite and sweet, keeping their property neat, their limited diversity not including criminals or perversity, you too can have fun without guns! And, even if and after we get millions more of poor functionally-illiterate unemployable Mexicans, Muslims and blacks, we won't need guns to defend ourselves or prevent carjackings and attacks!

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#282 Aug 2, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
Scotland has the second highest murder rate in Europe...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/sep/26/ukcr...
Another study from the University of California, to be published later this year, will claim Scotland has a higher homicide rate than America, Israel, Uzbekistan, Chile and Uruguay.
This suggests murder rate Scotland incr from 1.59 to 2.1 per 100,000 in 2005-6...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotla...
This suggests the murder rate in 2006 was 1.1 per 100,000 for Scotland and 5.1 for USA..
http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/...
My understanding is that the murder rate in Scotland is little higher than in England and far less than in the USA. I cannot find the Californian Study that ‘was going to’ show that the murder rate is higher in Scotland than in the USA. Clearly, gun-crime is far higher in the USA.
There were 154 shootings in which people were killed or injured last year.(Recent years figure ranges from 138 to 212 killed and injured). I think 4 of the 154 were fatal.
Scotland has a population of about 5 millions.
Firearms alone killed (never mind injured) 8775 in 2010. USA Pop, about 315millions?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/...
According to Wiki, the murder rate in Scotland is generally in the region of 0.5 to 0.6 per 100,000 of population.(A bit lower in Eng & Wales). It’s about twenty times that in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
Gun licences in Scotland are £50, about the cost of a black&white TV licence. The TV licence fee to pay for the BBC is £145.50 for a colour licence. The Scottish Nat Party are looking to increase this £50 gun fee.
Statistics are only a part of the picture of course. One can believe that relatively unrestricted firearms access makes sense if one wishes to (and the NRA may finance support for that view), but I find it hard to see that as an unbiased opinion..
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF04.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
Only a fool fools oneself. I suggest people try to take an entirely objective look at the situation, unencumbered by traditions, constitutions, or cultural influences. Any google search seems to indicate that the situation in some US cities is still relatively dire.(e.g. District of Columbia comes out top - with 16 firearms murders per 100,000 man, woman and child in the state). No Scottish city has a problem remotely on that scale.
From:
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homep...
There were 78 killings in the country last year — a decrease of nearly a FIFTH on 2008. But the stats show Scotland is still the seventh deadliest country in Europe. And more than a quarter of the killings happened in Glasgow, with a new victim every two and a half weeks. Unquote.
(Glasgow pop is nearly 600,000).
Here are a couple of BBC articles regarding the murder rates in Scotland for 2010 and 2011. One of the reasons that the murder rate varies so much is that Scotland's population is relatively small at about 5.2 million, so a difference of just 16 victims creates a 19% increase in the murder rate, from 1.1 to 1.5 per 100,000. That's still a reduction from the 2005-2005 rate. Most of Scotland's murders are committed by persons known to the victim and the most common weapon of choice is the knife. This is lower than the murder rate in the UK as a whole, which the WHO reported at 6.6 per 100,000 in 2004.

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Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#283 Aug 2, 2012

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#284 Aug 2, 2012
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
The history of the world shows us people will always find a way to kill each other,the vehicle is moot.
The murder rate in the US goes up as the rate of different cultures increase.
Actually, according to a report fro the Bureau of Justice Statistics last November, the homicide rate in the U.S., stable for most of the last decade, has begun to decline again almost as quickly as the declines that we saw over the 1990s. The current rates are comparable to the ones we saw during the 1950s. I'm not sure if any causative factor can be easily identified, but homicide rates do not appear to vary with levels of cultural diversity.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus...

“The eye has it...”

Since: Jan 12

Russell's teapot.

#285 Aug 3, 2012
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, according to a report fro the Bureau of Justice Statistics last November, the homicide rate in the U.S., stable for most of the last decade, has begun to decline again almost as quickly as the declines that we saw over the 1990s. The current rates are comparable to the ones we saw during the 1950s. I'm not sure if any causative factor can be easily identified, but homicide rates do not appear to vary with levels of cultural diversity.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus...
Crime rates in general are seeing a decline, or at the least not increasing as it was pointed out by KK on another thread I'm sure you recall.

As you pointed out, the reasons for that can't be known with certainty, but there is certainty in the statistic itself. The U.S is experiencing what appears to be a "gentler" and "kinder" state of being. That includes the rising population being accounted for.

Good stuff.

Even though the "'end '0 timers" probably find it distressing.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#286 Aug 3, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me guess you are a Liberal against guns?
Tell me why your Scotland has the highest murder rate & highest murder rate city Glasgow in Western Europe
When Scotland actually has the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe.
Madscot is from Oklahoma. Higher rate of gun ownership. Higher murder rate also.
Gun Nut

Oxford, OH

#287 Aug 4, 2012
Uh-oh, whut is mah plan? I just seen "Spiderman".

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