Aurora Shootings Result Of 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'

Jul 21, 2012 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: www.huffingtonpost.com

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter.

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Remember the GOP platform in Texas is opposed to critical thinking skills.

Rep. Gohmert is just an example of that policy.
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It's easy to see that Gohmert (and the anti-American aol) don't realize that that theatre was a "No-Gun Zone" and people were not allowed to protect themselves on that property. If someone had been carrying illegally, and stopped the killer, they probably would have gotten into worse trouble than the killer!<-- Kinda like the UK treats its subjects. Until these "gun free" zones are eliminated, and people are allowed to protect themselves and bare arms everywhere, these kinds of mass killings will continue. Notice how they are always at these places where no guns are allowed.

As to the religious part of the article, yeah, it makes him sound a bit nuts talking religion, but politicians love to pander to their constituents. If the Republican party could get rid of their religious lunatics, then they'd greatly improve their platform. Come to think of it, that sounds like the Libertarian Party isn't it?

Anti-gun = Anti-American
Anti-gun = Anti-Equal Rights
Anti-gun = Anti-Freedom
Anti-gun = Anti-Constitution
Anti-gun = Anti-Womens Rights
Anti-gun = Evil Agendas
Anti-gun = Control Issues
Anti-gun = Narcissistic Behavior
Anti-gun = Emotional/Psychological Immaturity
Anti-gun = Uneducated

Anyone who is anti-gun obviously falls into one or more of those categories. Makes a person wonder just where their lives went wrong. To choose to not own a gun or exercise that natural right is one thing. To try to take away others rights to self-protection is just plain wrong.
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It's easy to see that Gohmert (and the anti-American aol) don't realize that that theatre was a "No-Gun Zone" and people were not allowed to protect themselves on that property. If someone had been carrying illegally, and stopped the killer, they probably would have gotten into worse trouble than the killer!<-- Kinda like the UK treats its subjects. Until these "gun free" zones are eliminated, and people are allowed to protect themselves and bare arms everywhere, these kinds of mass killings will continue. Notice how they are always at these places where no guns are allowed.
As to the religious part of the article, yeah, it makes him sound a bit nuts talking religion, but politicians love to pander to their constituents. If the Republican party could get rid of their religious lunatics, then they'd greatly improve their platform. Come to think of it, that sounds like the Libertarian Party isn't it?
Anti-gun = Anti-American
Anti-gun = Anti-Equal Rights
Anti-gun = Anti-Freedom
Anti-gun = Anti-Constitution
Anti-gun = Anti-Womens Rights
Anti-gun = Evil Agendas
Anti-gun = Control Issues
Anti-gun = Narcissistic Behavior
Anti-gun = Emotional/Psychological Immaturity
Anti-gun = Uneducated
Anyone who is anti-gun obviously falls into one or more of those categories. Makes a person wonder just where their lives went wrong. To choose to not own a gun or exercise that natural right is one thing. To try to take away others rights to self-protection is just plain wrong.
Explains why so many USAmericans are killed by guns in a single post.
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There is no getting rid of guns. It's a bogus issue to start with. This is pure politics.

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There is no getting rid of guns. It's a bogus issue to start with. This is pure politics.
I would never even consider getting rid of guns.

But it might be reasonable to at least have some accountability for those weapons that can fire more than 1 round per second and can hold more than say 50 rounds per clip? I'm not even hard and fast on those numbers, but something?

It just seems that there is a class of guns which serve no purpose beyond killing as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time. I'm not necessarily opposed to people buying such weapons, but maybe at least for this class of weapon we could require background checks and some minimal level of formal gun safety training?

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In Georgia, it's legal to carry a concealed weapon almost anywhere, even in church. Somehow that just seems oxymoronic.

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American wrote:
It's easy to see that Gohmert (and the anti-American aol) don't realize that that theatre was a "No-Gun Zone" and people were not allowed to protect themselves on that property. If someone had been carrying illegally, and stopped the killer, they probably would have gotten into worse trouble than the killer!<-- Kinda like the UK treats its subjects. Until these "gun free" zones are eliminated, and people are allowed to protect themselves and bare arms everywhere, these kinds of mass killings will continue. Notice how they are always at these places where no guns are allowed.
As to the religious part of the article, yeah, it makes him sound a bit nuts talking religion, but politicians love to pander to their constituents. If the Republican party could get rid of their religious lunatics, then they'd greatly improve their platform. Come to think of it, that sounds like the Libertarian Party isn't it?
Anti-gun = Anti-American
Anti-gun = Anti-Equal Rights
Anti-gun = Anti-Freedom
Anti-gun = Anti-Constitution
Anti-gun = Anti-Womens Rights
Anti-gun = Evil Agendas
Anti-gun = Control Issues
Anti-gun = Narcissistic Behavior
Anti-gun = Emotional/Psychological Immaturity
Anti-gun = Uneducated
Anyone who is anti-gun obviously falls into one or more of those categories. Makes a person wonder just where their lives went wrong. To choose to not own a gun or exercise that natural right is one thing. To try to take away others rights to self-protection is just plain wrong.
Are you sure of that? It seems to me that one of the articles in the last few days summarized Colorado's gun laws, and I saw nothing that prevented carrying a gun into a theater. I got the impression that they can even be carried without permits as long as they are not concealed.

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In Georgia, it's legal to carry a concealed weapon almost anywhere, even in church. Somehow that just seems oxymoronic.
Perhaps, but the alternative would be to force people to either arrive at the church door unarmed or check their weapons at the door. The former would be unacceptable to some, the latter unseemly to most. Moreover, a cache of checked weapons might present a danger in and of itself if not adequately guarded whether it's at a church, a bar, or a theater.
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There is definitely a link between the murderous maniac and such as Roseanne Barr's inflammatory, inciteful words wishing that all people eating at Chick-Fil-A get cancer and die. The evil words coming from Hollywood and some Leftist deviant politicians do incite murder, as was shown with Giffords' shooter.

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Perhaps, but the alternative would be to force people to either arrive at the church door unarmed or check their weapons at the door. The former would be unacceptable to some, the latter unseemly to most. Moreover, a cache of checked weapons might present a danger in and of itself if not adequately guarded whether it's at a church, a bar, or a theater.
Oh, I understand. And, as I said, I believe in the 2nd Amendment.

It's just that this actually became a contentious issue here about a year ago arguing about whether guns should be restricted in churches and bars.(Not sure how these things go together, but this is Georgia.)

To me though, the very idea that anyone would feel they needed a gun in church seems wrong.

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There is definitely a link between the murderous maniac and such as Roseanne Barr's inflammatory, inciteful words wishing that all people eating at Chick-Fil-A get cancer and die. The evil words coming from Hollywood and some Leftist deviant politicians do incite murder, as was shown with Giffords' shooter.
Care to cite the studies that document this cause and effect relationship?

Also, specifically what "leftist deviant politician" are you referring to who you can show incited this atrocity?

Or are you just making stuff up in an attempt to incite your own brand of hate?

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A couple of points....

Is this guy saying that his god allowed this to happen because of the 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'?
If he is, than he should have some questions for his god, like, why would you allow someone to kill your christian children as a punishment for others attacks on christian beliefs?( Unless of course, only atheists and non-christians were killed, in which case, he might have a point.)

Also, it is terribly irresponsible to encourage folks to open fire in a dark, crowed theater full of paniced, fleeing people.

Lastly, the shooter was wearing body armor. The only thing that would have likely happened in the event of someone firing on him is that he would have hurt more people.

This politician should thank his god that he can't be impeached for stupidity.

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The serpent was right wrote:
A couple of points....
Is this guy saying that his god allowed this to happen because of the 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'?
If he is, than he should have some questions for his god, like, why would you allow someone to kill your christian children as a punishment for others attacks on christian beliefs?( Unless of course, only atheists and non-christians were killed, in which case, he might have a point.)
Also, it is terribly irresponsible to encourage folks to open fire in a dark, crowed theater full of paniced, fleeing people.
Lastly, the shooter was wearing body armor. The only thing that would have likely happened in the event of someone firing on him is that he would have hurt more people.
This politician should thank his god that he can't be impeached for stupidity.
Yeh, that's all that situation needed was more lead in the air.

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Bringmedinner wrote:
There is definitely a link between the murderous maniac and such as Roseanne Barr's inflammatory, inciteful words wishing that all people eating at Chick-Fil-A get cancer and die. The evil words coming from Hollywood and some Leftist deviant politicians do incite murder, as was shown with Giffords' shooter.
More dishonesty from a neo-con.
Unless you post some evidence that that the Giffords shooter was incited by "The evil words coming from Hollywood and some Leftist deviant politicians", I will asssume you are just another in a long list of right wingnut liars.

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The serpent was right wrote:
A couple of points....
Is this guy saying that his god allowed this to happen because of the 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'?
If he is, than he should have some questions for his god, like, why would you allow someone to kill your christian children as a punishment for others attacks on christian beliefs?( Unless of course, only atheists and non-christians were killed, in which case, he might have a point.)
Also, it is terribly irresponsible to encourage folks to open fire in a dark, crowed theater full of paniced, fleeing people.
Lastly, the shooter was wearing body armor. The only thing that would have likely happened in the event of someone firing on him is that he would have hurt more people.
This politician should thank his god that he can't be impeached for stupidity.
From a tactical point of view, might not a midsection shot or two have knocked him off balance long enough to allow someone to tackle and disarm him? Risky, of course, and it could only be done from one of the front rows without the risk of hitting a bystander, but better than allowing him to keep shooting at everyone.

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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)

Does "R" denote Redneck or Retarded?

Seriously, who votes for these people?

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From a tactical point of view, might not a midsection shot or two have knocked him off balance long enough to allow someone to tackle and disarm him? Risky, of course, and it could only be done from one of the front rows without the risk of hitting a bystander, but better than allowing him to keep shooting at everyone.
I guess anything is possible. I am not to confident that most people in that situation would think clearly enough to pull that off. It would almost require a coordinated effort in a very crazy enviroment.

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I guess anything is possible. I am not to confident that most people in that situation would think clearly enough to pull that off. It would almost require a coordinated effort in a very crazy enviroment.
Probably only an experienced police officer or front-line ex-GI could pull it off, I suppose. On another note, did your read that one of the survivors has already filed suit against the theater and is considering one against Warner Bros? What a world, what a world...

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Probably only an experienced police officer or front-line ex-GI could pull it off, I suppose. On another note, did your read that one of the survivors has already filed suit against the theater and is considering one against Warner Bros? What a world, what a world...
No I didn't see that. It doesn't surprise me though. I hope they (The plaintiff) lose and have to pay the legal fees of the defendant. Propbably wishful thinking on my part.

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And a follow-on note --I read this morning that gun sales have soared since this shooting.

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