Show me this god of love.

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It's kind of like a person saying I don't love my family, even though I do. Haven't you learnt you can't control people's emotions, wait you think you're God, we have a culprit.
You can stop lying to us about the god now

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Come on. Someone please show me this god that loves everyone.

Just something in the bible that indicates that this god of the bible bestowed any loving actions, words, or anything that shows that this god cares.

No one to this point has even tried to defend this loving god thing.

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It's kind of like a person saying I don't love my family, even though I do. Haven't you learnt you can't control people's emotions, wait you think you're God, we have a culprit.
Isn't it the god who instructs that you must hate your family, before he will give you the time of day? Are you failing him, even more than the obvious?

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So not one religious person can show that their god is a god of love, but so may are able to show that it is a god of hate.

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So not one religious person can show that their god is a god of love, but so may are able to show that it is a god of hate.
Do you think you know who God is? I suppose not.

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#188
May 19, 2013
 
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Do you think you know who God is? I suppose not.
Your personal hallucination and nothing more. The sooner you accept reality, the better for the whole world.

You can troll here all you like, but it won't make god real. accept this and move on.

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#189
May 19, 2013
 
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Do you think you know who God is? I suppose not.
Do you?

Others of religious persuasion always state that god loves you, god is a god of love yet no one can show this god of love.

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#190
May 22, 2013
 
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Do you think you know who God is? I suppose not.
OH and yes I do know who this god is. God is the manifestation of mans mind made in the image of man.

Now where in the bible does this god of yours show his/its love?
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#191
May 22, 2013
 
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Man has always dreamed up god or gods.
Thousands of different gods and deities.
With some, one is no different from the other.
Man has always wanted more than what he is, and a belief that there is more than what he is.
Man is a fallible being, and to put your trust in mans mind and dreams that they put to a book is somewhat dangerous and foolish.
ok, and to trust the claims that a book is the work of inspired men or a God is also foolish. however, it is total trust and unquestioning attitudes that cause the trouble, when they are used to justify horrid actions, by followers, priestly classes, or hired minions.

yet we have to have some sorts of provisional trust in something, and I suggest that the attitudes that spring from the types of pain we suffer is a good guide to looking for ways to avoid or minimize the pain, both for ourselves and for others, including animals. A sort of hedonism based more on the enlightened effective version of a pain-avoidance principle than on a mindless pleasure principle. it needs the premise that the other is enough like us that it would not want pain either, and that the other is not our inevitable eternal enemy. once in a while we must kill or injure the other in self-defense (presuming that we are relatively more innocent and harmless toward people-animals-the planet and its ecosystems), or defense of another innocent. but best to try to shape the thinking and or behavior of the other, to prevent the hostilities and dangers.

so good intentions and wisdom are required to set up the conditions for trust. neither alone is sufficient.
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May 22, 2013
 
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OH and yes I do know who this god is. God is the manifestation of mans mind made in the image of man.
Now where in the bible does this god of yours show his/its love?
allthough I mostly agree with your critique, and think that the Biblical God is an invention of men's minds, in various eras (and some women, to be fair)- I do think there are a few good lines in the Bible, that can be taken separately from the surrounding passages that are horrid or useless. Look at Matthew 25, where some rather good ethics are mixed with horrid theology and threats and insults to goats.
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#193
May 22, 2013
 
a God of love would be possible in a dualistic system in which that God is not all powerful. It would be a very weak sort of God. The Greeks saw that it was sometimes unreliable, and also not a very powerful being except as erotic passion. The Gods of war and sunlight, and sea and sky were stronger than the brotherly-love aspect of god.

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May 22, 2013
 
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> allthough I mostly agree with your critique, and think that the Biblical God is an invention of men's minds, in various eras (and some women, to be fair)- I do think there are a few good lines in the Bible, that can be taken separately from the surrounding passages that are horrid or useless. Look at Matthew 25, where some rather good ethics are mixed with horrid theology and threats and insults to goats.
I do not discount some of the writings as good and helpful; my reason for this topic is to find out if any religious person or non-religious for that matter could find any kind of loving action by the biblical god.

Most people of religion proclaim that their god is kind and loving without any basis for it.

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Show me this god of love.
The one that condones the use of murder to propagate a belief in him.
The one that condones genocide to propagate a belief in him.
The one that condones hate propagate a belief in him.
The one that no one can give evidence of its existence.
The one that cannot be seen or heard.
Show me this god of love.
You are without excuse.

Romans 1:20 (NKJV)
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

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#196
May 28, 2013
 
No Luke, I am your father. Darth Vader: The Empire Strikes Back.

You were quoting fiction so am I.
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<quoted text>You are without excuse.

Romans 1:20 (NKJV)
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

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#197
May 28, 2013
 
dollarsbill wrote:
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You are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 (NKJV)
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
So you cannot show this god of love.

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May 28, 2013
 
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No Luke, I am your father. Darth Vader: The Empire Strikes Back.
You were quoting fiction so am I.
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Your belief in Hell is not required for your eternal residency therein. They will find you.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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May 28, 2013
 
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>So you cannot show this god of love.
Israel was dead and is alive because Jesus was dead and is alive.

Luke 21:32 (NKJV)
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

This is the LAST generation.

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#200
May 28, 2013
 
You have been deceived by your so called god.

Jeremiah 20:7 You have deceived me, oh Lord, and I was deceived.
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>Your belief in Hell is not required for your eternal residency therein. They will find you.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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#201
May 28, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
You have been deceived by your so called god.
Jeremiah 20:7 You have deceived me, oh Lord, and I was deceived.
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How can a "so called god" deceive anyone? LOL!

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#202
May 29, 2013
 
You deny your own bible?

Great, that was easy.
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<quoted text>How can a "so called god" deceive anyone? LOL!

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