Christian man washed out to sea durin...

Christian man washed out to sea during baptism

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#1 Mar 31, 2014
Officials warned the surf near the area can be dangerous
A California man remains missing a day after he was swept out to sea during an ocean baptism.

Benito Flores, 43, was among several people helping his cousin, Pastor Maurigro Cervantes, baptise a man near the Guadalupe Dunes Preserve north of Santa Barbara.

Two others were swept out by a huge wave but were able to swim to shore.

The US Coast Guard says the search for Mr Flores was called off at midnight on Sunday.

The baptism was just finishing up at 10:00 local time (17:00 GMT) on Sunday when the church members were hit by the wave.

"A big wave came and took Benito," Mr Cervantes told local broadcaster KEYT. "I tried to take him out, he was heavy and then another big wave came."

The US Coast Guard and as well as local rescue officials were involved in the search but there are no plans to resume it.

Santa Barbara Fire Captain David Sadecki said it would be difficult for anyone to survive more than 30 minutes in the cold water.

Mr Cervantes, who leads the Jesus Christ Light of the Sky church in Santa Maria, said his church performed such ceremonies two or three times a year, according to the Santa Maria Times.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26823...
God has a weird way of showing his love

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#2 Mar 31, 2014
Coast Guard Searches for Church Member Swept Into Ocean During Baptism
Reports of a body spotted in the Pacific Ocean on Monday about two miles from the California beach where a man was swept into the sea during a baptism the day before turned out to be fishing buoys, officials said.

The Santa Barbara County Fire Department received "numerous reports" of what residents thought was a body near Guadalupe Dunes Park as they searched for a male in his 40s who went missing after he was pulled into the water, said David Sadecki, a Fire Department spokesman.

Santa Barbara County Air Support Unit, American Medical Response, Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department and several local fire stations were involved in the search for the man, who had not yet been identified, Sadecki said.

Santa Barbara County Fire Department suspended their search operations after discovering the buoy, but the U.S. Coast Guard continued the search to search from the water and air.

Two additional people who also drifted out into the ocean “self-rescued” Sunday without injuries, Sadecki said.

Members of a Santa Maria Church told NBC affiliate KSBY that they were conducting a baptism when the church members got pulled into the surf.

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#3 Mar 31, 2014
The U.S. Coast Guard says the search was called off about midnight Sunday and there are no plans to resume it.

A wave pulled three people into the ocean about 10 a.m. off Rancho Guadalupe Dunes Preserve and only two managed to return to shore on their own.

Pastor Maurigro Cervantes of Jesus Christ Light of the Sky Church says his cousin, Benito Flores, was helping perform a baptism when he was swept away.

Fire Capt. David Sadecki said Monday that it would be difficult for anyone to survive more than 30 minutes in the cold water.

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#4 Mar 31, 2014
I hope that he comes back, but hope is dimming. This is unfortunately what happens when people put faith over logic. You can't walk water.
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#5 Apr 2, 2014
Abrahamic religionists apparently believe in heaven. Religion is the last bastion of superstition

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#6 Apr 2, 2014
EdSed wrote:
Abrahamic religionists apparently believe in heaven. Religion is the last bastion of superstition
Many of them believe in putting supersttion over common sense. The people in this case were told that the water was dangerous and yet they still went out there to do their baptism anyway.

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#7 Apr 2, 2014
Ohhhh, I am so sorry, but I just just can't stop laughing. Obviously the old Arab white god was busy with other things, probably important things like checking scrotums for blemishes.

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#8 Apr 3, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
Ohhhh, I am so sorry, but I just just can't stop laughing. Obviously the old Arab white god was busy with other things, probably important things like checking scrotums for blemishes.
Or torturing gays and infidels in hell, according to the xtians.

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#9 Apr 4, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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Many of them believe in putting supersttion over common sense. The people in this case were told that the water was dangerous and yet they still went out there to do their baptism anyway.
This is a sad case where despite knowledge of the danger to life, the blind belief in religion has overwhelmed common sense.

It seems like someone said “we are going ahead with our loopy ideas despite the treacherous waters and danger to life, god will protect us”–“oops no he won’t, maybe next time”

Although most people will consider this an unfortunate accident, here in the UK organisations such as clubs, churches and similar organisations have a legal obligation for the health and safety of their members, volunteers, visitor’s etc. In common law there is a duty of care applicable to all individuals and organisations. In other countries similar statutes exist, not sure about the US though

So accident or not, will the organiser of the baptism be prosecuted for reckless endangerment of life?

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#10 Apr 4, 2014
You know what they say....

"The Lord works in mysterious waves."

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#11 Apr 7, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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This is a sad case where despite knowledge of the danger to life, the blind belief in religion has overwhelmed common sense.
It seems like someone said “we are going ahead with our loopy ideas despite the treacherous waters and danger to life, god will protect us”–“oops no he won’t, maybe next time”
Although most people will consider this an unfortunate accident, here in the UK organisations such as clubs, churches and similar organisations have a legal obligation for the health and safety of their members, volunteers, visitor’s etc. In common law there is a duty of care applicable to all individuals and organisations. In other countries similar statutes exist, not sure about the US though
So accident or not, will the organiser of the baptism be prosecuted for reckless endangerment of life?
I doubt it. Then again the US is usually behind the Brits when it comes to common sense.
Except for that whole queen thing.

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#12 Apr 7, 2014
scaritual wrote:
You know what they say....
"The Lord works in mysterious waves."
You cracked me up here.

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#13 Apr 7, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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This is a sad case where despite knowledge of the danger to life, the blind belief in religion has overwhelmed common sense.
It seems like someone said “we are going ahead with our loopy ideas despite the treacherous waters and danger to life, god will protect us”–“oops no he won’t, maybe next time”
Although most people will consider this an unfortunate accident, here in the UK organisations such as clubs, churches and similar organisations have a legal obligation for the health and safety of their members, volunteers, visitor’s etc. In common law there is a duty of care applicable to all individuals and organisations. In other countries similar statutes exist, not sure about the US though
So accident or not, will the organiser of the baptism be prosecuted for reckless endangerment of life?
The problem is that the church thinks itself above common sense and the laws of Nature, encouraging it's robots to put their faith in a mysterious array of magical miracles that never seem to happen. After all, what's the point of worshiping a God if he cannot perform any miracles?

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