Richard Dawkins's Islamophobic Tweets and the Root Problem of the New Atheism

Aug 8, 2013 Full story: Daily Kos 62

Continuing a sad descent to Internet trolldom, British biologist and outspoken New Atheist Richard Dawkins decided to wish the world's Muslim population an unhappy Eid yesterday by tweeting the following: All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge.

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Thinking

UK

#1 Aug 9, 2013
Oh look, the religion of the permanently offended can't even be bothered to spell properly.

Dawkins Tweeted, "All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."

Telling the truth = islamophobia
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#2 Aug 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Telling the truth = islamophobia
I suspect also this tweet was taken out of context, and the media are making a deal of it, as they like to stir things up.
Thinking

UK

#3 Aug 9, 2013
Dawkins further said "Why mention Muslim Nobels rather than any other group? Because we so often hear boasts about (a) their total numbers and (b) their science."

Having seen some of the bollocks from muslims about "islamic science" on Topix, I think Dawkins is entitled to state his facts.

If someone wants to debate how representative the Nobel prize system is, then that is a different matter.
spudgun wrote:
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I suspect also this tweet was taken out of context, and the media are making a deal of it, as they like to stir things up.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4 Aug 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Oh look, the religion of the permanently offended can't even be bothered to spell properly.
Dawkins Tweeted, "All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."
Telling the truth = islamophobia
Well.... it does appear that most of the leadership of islam is Professionally Offended™ by actual reality.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#6 Aug 10, 2013
"All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."
I don't see how this is Islamophobic, because if it was then surely he woundn't have mentioned the good things Muslims did for science in the Middle Ages.
Also Muslims do like to say that Islam can't be anti-science because of this. Needless to say religion played a part.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#7 Aug 10, 2013
Richard Dawkins is right on point.
LCNlin

United States

#8 Aug 13, 2013
The Lords Spiritual of the United Kingdom, also called Spiritual Peers, are the 26 bishops of the established Church of England who serve in the House of Lords along with the Lords Temporal.

Richard may be a Lord some day
Thinking

UK

#9 Aug 14, 2013
The term "islamophobia" has been coined to strangle lrgitimate criticism of islam.
Benjamin Frankly wrote:
"All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."
I don't see how this is Islamophobic, because if it was then surely he woundn't have mentioned the good things Muslims did for science in the Middle Ages.
Also Muslims do like to say that Islam can't be anti-science because of this. Needless to say religion played a part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JQoLbPudHTEXX

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#10 Aug 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The term "islamophobia" has been coined to strangle lrgitimate criticism of islam.
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The team "islamophobia" was coined to describe people who are bigoted ageist Muslims and then it was used ageist those who simply criticise Islam.

Since: Jun 07

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#11 Aug 14, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
The Lords Spiritual of the United Kingdom, also called Spiritual Peers, are the 26 bishops of the established Church of England who serve in the House of Lords along with the Lords Temporal.
Richard may be a Lord some day
We can do without your incessant creationist commentary on everything. Keep your mental illness to yourself, or prove you don't have one.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13 Aug 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The term "islamophobia" has been coined to strangle lrgitimate criticism of islam.
<quoted text>
Indeed it has.

It's used in **exactly** the same way neoconservatives use "patriotic" here in the US.
Thinking

UK

#14 Aug 14, 2013
They forget that part of being patriotic requires you to constructively criticise your own country.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed it has.
It's used in **exactly** the same way neoconservatives use "patriotic" here in the US.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15 Aug 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
They forget that part of being patriotic requires you to constructively criticise your own country.
<quoted text>
Exactly!
Amused

Brookfield, MA

#16 Aug 14, 2013
Islamophobia isn't an irrational fear, the way arachnophobia is an irrational fear of spiders. It is indisputably part of islam to try to convert the entire world to islam, by force, if necessary. It is indisputably part of islam to kill those who want to stop practicing islam. It is indisputably part of islam to enforce a savage civil and criminal code with barbaric punishments. It is indisputably part of islam to deny basic human rights to women, to prevent them from being educated, to prevent them from taking a role in public life, to mutilate their genitals to deprive them of sexual pleasure even within marriage, and to treat women as if they were mere property of their male relatives. It is not irrational to fear people who espouse all these ideas and have a demonstrated will to bring them to fruition or die in the attempt.

Islam stopped growing intellectually in the middle ages, and seeks to preserve the medieval times. It perceives all progress as a threat. As indeed it is a threat to the effort to prevent the accumulation of knowledge.
LCNlin

United States

#17 Aug 15, 2013
Dawkins books have made him a bit of money.
Similar to conspiracy theory books,they sell well!

Since: Jun 07

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#18 Aug 15, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
Dawkins books have made him a bit of money.
Similar to conspiracy theory books,they sell well!
Once again, the creationist troll attacks dawkins, because he cannot attack atheism.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#19 Aug 15, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Once again, the creationist troll attacks dawkins, because he cannot attack atheism.
Actually? In LCN's case? I think he spotted this "pithy quote" somewhere or other.

I doubt he wrote it himself-- you can tell when LCN writes his own posts-- they are essentially gibberish and devoid of useful meaning.
LCNlin

United States

#20 Aug 23, 2013
CAIRO (Reuters)- Mass protests called by Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood mostly failed to materialise on Friday as the movement reels from a bloody army crackdown on followers of ousted President Mohamed Mursi.

Troops and police had taken relatively low-key security measures before the "Friday of Martyrs" processions that were to have begun from 28 mosques in the capital after weekly prayers.

But midday prayers were cancelled at some mosques and few major protests unfolded in Cairo, although witnesses said at least 1,000 people staged a march in the Mohandiseen district.

There were no reports of violence in that procession, but the Brotherhood's website said one person had been killed in the Nile Delta town of Tanta in clashes with security forces. The Interior Ministry confirmed the death.

Brotherhood supporters also turned out in Alexandria, several Delta towns, the Suez Canal city of Ismailia, the north Sinai town of Rafah, and Assiut in the south, with minor skirmishes reported in some places.

The Health Ministry said 54 people had been wounded on Friday in Cairo and two Delta provinces, without giving any details of the violence or who was injured.

"We are not afraid; it's victory or death," said Mohamed Abdel Azim, a retired oil engineer who was among about 100 people marching slowly from a mosque near Cairo University.

"They intend to strike at Muslims," the grey-bearded Azim said. "We'd rather die in dignity than live in oppression. We'll keep coming out until there's no one left."

Despite his defiant words, the mood of the protesters seemed subdued, perhaps a sign that the crackdown and the round-up of Brotherhood leaders has chilled the rank-and-file.

Some marchers carried posters of Mursi, who was toppled by army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi on July 3 after huge demonstrations against his rule. "No to the coup," they chanted.

A militant Islamist group active in the lawless Sinai Peninsula threatened new attacks on the army and police. In a statement published on a jihadist website, the Salafi Jihadi group condemned security forces for what it called the "heinous crime" of killing Brotherhood supporters.

It was the first statement from any of the militant groups in the Sinai desert bordering Israel since last Wednesday's violent move by security forces on the Brotherhood sit-ins in Cairo.

The number of attacks on security forces in Sinai has jumped since the army removed Mursi. Suspected Islamist militants killed at least 24 policemen on Monday.
Thinking

Bridgetown, Barbados

#21 Aug 24, 2013
Agreed. Lincock is far happier spamming a page out of a telephone book.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Actually? In LCN's case? I think he spotted this "pithy quote" somewhere or other.
I doubt he wrote it himself-- you can tell when LCN writes his own posts-- they are essentially gibberish and devoid of useful meaning.
LCNlin

United States

#22 Aug 25, 2013
Benjamin Frankly wrote:
<quoted text>
The team "islamophobia" was coined to describe people who are bigoted ageist Muslims and then it was used ageist those who simply criticise Islam.
Politics.
Dawkins still selling his books!

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