Colorado shooter Holmes is "heavily involved in his local presbyterian church"

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http://www.christianpost.com/news/james-holme...

>> James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Described as 'Normal' Christian Boy
>> Amid Mental Health Investigation
>> By Benge Nsenduluka , Christian Post Contributor
>> July 20, 2012|2:34 pm
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>> James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered
>> young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect
>> was heavily involved in his local presbyterian church.
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>> Holmes, who is currently in police custody following his arrest
>> over the deadly shooting, was reportedly a "normal kid" despite
>> growing speculation that he may suffer from mental health issues,
>> according to The Los Angeles Times.

So much for "you have be christian to be good!" Please explain mass murder is a "moral" act. Oh, that's right, the buybull says it is (re: Deuteronomy 13:7-12 AND 13:13-19 among others...).

As per usual, christards are claiming that James Holmes "isn't a christian". According to the christian post, Homes is "heavily involved in his presbyterian church". If the christian post some sort of anti-religious website or something?

Some slimebags will call my post "disgusting opportunism", but the real disgusting opportunism is pricks like Rick Warren blaming the attack on a "lack of christianity" or "an attack on christianity" without bothering to learn that the shooter IS a christian. Then there's republicunt Louie Gohmert of Texas:

"You know what really gets me, as a christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of terror like this [the Colorado shooting] takes place."
- Louie Gohmert

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http://www.christianpost.com/n ews/james-holmes-colorado-shoo ter-described-as-normal-christ ian-boy-amid-mental-health-inv estigation-photo-78623/
>> James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Described as 'Normal' Christian Boy
>> Amid Mental Health Investigation
>> By Benge Nsenduluka , Christian Post Contributor
>> July 20, 2012|2:34 pm
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>> James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered
>> young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect
>> was heavily involved in his local presbyterian church.
>>
>> Holmes, who is currently in police custody following his arrest
>> over the deadly shooting, was reportedly a "normal kid" despite
>> growing speculation that he may suffer from mental health issues,
>> according to The Los Angeles Times.
So much for "you have be christian to be good!" Please explain mass murder is a "moral" act. Oh, that's right, the buybull says it is (re: Deuteronomy 13:7-12 AND 13:13-19 among others...).
As per usual, christards are claiming that James Holmes "isn't a christian". According to the christian post, Homes is "heavily involved in his presbyterian church". If the christian post some sort of anti-religious website or something?
Some slimebags will call my post "disgusting opportunism", but the real disgusting opportunism is pricks like Rick Warren blaming the attack on a "lack of christianity" or "an attack on christianity" without bothering to learn that the shooter IS a christian. Then there's republicunt Louie Gohmert of Texas:
"You know what really gets me, as a christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of terror like this [the Colorado shooting] takes place."
- Louie Gohmert
That sounds like a real Texan, with a complete lack of reasoning skills, and adept at evading the art of logic.

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Mass murderers are anomalous almost by definition. As such, no valid inferences can be drawn about the larger groups to which they belong. Given that Holmes was heavily involved in the Presbyterian Church, what are the odds that another mass murderer will arise from it? Almost zero.

I can't fathom why people on each side of the basic argument that runs through all of the threads of the atheist forum are rushing to cast blame for this atrocity on the other. It's ridiculous to cast blame on anyone except Holmes himself.

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Jul 20, 2012
 
NightSerf wrote:
Mass murderers are anomalous almost by definition. As such, no valid inferences can be drawn about the larger groups to which they belong. Given that Holmes was heavily involved in the Presbyterian Church, what are the odds that another mass murderer will arise from it? Almost zero.
I can't fathom why people on each side of the basic argument that runs through all of the threads of the atheist forum are rushing to cast blame for this atrocity on the other. It's ridiculous to cast blame on anyone except Holmes himself.
I agree. I think it has become, like most tragedies, a game of "I told you so". Both sides like to play it.
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All prayer wailing and jesus beseeching godgobbers are lunatics,.,it don't matter which of these non existent sky gods they believe in.
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P_Smith wrote:
http://www.christianpost.com/n ews/james-holmes-colorado-shoo ter-described-as-normal-christ ian-boy-amid-mental-health-inv estigation-photo-78623/
>> James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Described as 'Normal' Christian Boy
>> Amid Mental Health Investigation
>> By Benge Nsenduluka , Christian Post Contributor
>> July 20, 2012|2:34 pm
>>
>> James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered
>> young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect
>> was heavily involved in his local presbyterian church.
>>
>> Holmes, who is currently in police custody following his arrest
>> over the deadly shooting, was reportedly a "normal kid" despite
>> growing speculation that he may suffer from mental health issues,
>> according to The Los Angeles Times.
So much for "you have be christian to be good!" Please explain mass murder is a "moral" act. Oh, that's right, the buybull says it is (re: Deuteronomy 13:7-12 AND 13:13-19 among others...).
As per usual, christards are claiming that James Holmes "isn't a christian". According to the christian post, Homes is "heavily involved in his presbyterian church". If the christian post some sort of anti-religious website or something?
Some slimebags will call my post "disgusting opportunism", but the real disgusting opportunism is pricks like Rick Warren blaming the attack on a "lack of christianity" or "an attack on christianity" without bothering to learn that the shooter IS a christian. Then there's republicunt Louie Gohmert of Texas:
"You know what really gets me, as a christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of terror like this [the Colorado shooting] takes place."
- Louie Gohmert
the Congressman is an idiot. interesting to know RW was a fool also.there are already liars on topix claiming the shooter was an atheist.

I would not claim that the young man's religion was a factor, unless there was some report about his having extremist views, such as the young man in Norway had, apparently - but they were the deadly combo of religion, racism, and politics.

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The shooter's religion's got nothing to do with the crime.

The crime happened because you neaderthal morons think everyone being armed to the teeth is acceptable in modern society.

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I agree, religion very likely had nothing to do with this.

It was most likely the 6000 rounds of real ammo, in the hands of someone who had over many years inured himself to the thought of death, by playing thousands upon thousand of incredibly gory video games.

Life as game, comes easily to those with no investment in mankind, either through family friends or community.

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It never does. Someone is always waiting to jump.
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Being a trinitarian christian is not true to the word. read issah 57-15. According to the word there is no trinity. Trinitarians are not filled with the great hope as they think they go to heaven and then will know or start to know the trinity. Wait a minute the word says to know him not them is salvation.The thought that we come to know three interupts the revelation given to you from God. It is like misinterpreting a message from the Martians if there were Martians.Ask formal Atheist Jacob hatenpau who went to Viet Nam as a missionary when he found out God was really one not three. Atheist get saved before trinitarians do much of the time. See throughj the bull!!!!

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Rick from Minneapolis wrote:
Being a trinitarian christian is not true to the word. read issah 57-15. According to the word there is no trinity. Trinitarians are not filled with the great hope as they think they go to heaven and then will know or start to know the trinity. Wait a minute the word says to know him not them is salvation.The thought that we come to know three interupts the revelation given to you from God. It is like misinterpreting a message from the Martians if there were Martians.Ask formal Atheist Jacob hatenpau who went to Viet Nam as a missionary when he found out God was really one not three. Atheist get saved before trinitarians do much of the time. See throughj the bull!!!!
We DO see thriugh the bull.
That's why we are atheists.

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Mass murderers are anomalous almost by definition. As such, no valid inferences can be drawn about the larger groups to which they belong. Given that Holmes was heavily involved in the Presbyterian Church, what are the odds that another mass murderer will arise from it? Almost zero.
I can't fathom why people on each side of the basic argument that runs through all of the threads of the atheist forum are rushing to cast blame for this atrocity on the other. It's ridiculous to cast blame on anyone except Holmes himself.
When I read about a mass murderer or some other really bad person being a theist, I don't imagine it was the religion that caused him to do such bad things, but it does seem to indicate that the magic woo-woo that many theists believe makes folks "better people", doesn't seem to be working. I guess the joy and peace of Jebus didn't have an effect on this guy.

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Rick from Minneapolis wrote:
Being a trinitarian christian is not true to the word. read issah 57-15.It is like misinterpreting a message from the Martians if there were Martians.
Mr. Spirit of the Antichrist,

It’s hot in Texas, hot as a summer revival, but you’ve just pushed the burner button past the boiling point…you just made me steam! I am a TRUE Christian trying to minister to these atheists with the TRUTH and here you come, preachin’ godless nonsense straight out of Satan’s armpits and into his little black book dredged up from the Lake of Fire. You are as crazy as an acre of snakes and just like them special education children Jesus loves so much, you can’t even tell whether it’s time to scratch your clock or wind your butt! You are so empty-headed you wouldn’t even make a good landfill.

The TRINITY is real! If the Father didn’t have His Kid and the Holy Pigeon in heaven, he’d be so bored he’d blow his brains out or he’d end up socializing with the Devil like in the Book of Job. So you think Yahweh invites Buddha, Shiva, Allah, Kali and a few others to drink margaritas, play poker and toss around recent headlines? That is BLASPHEMY and I hope Jesus Christ straddles you across his bony knees just to spank the wickedness out of you.

I am very concerned about your soul because your flippant denial of the Trinity demonstrates that you are more atheist than the whole lot of atheists on this HELLISH forum...just be glad you are not a Mormon, though. However, if you think you can spend the whole year denying the Trinity, laughing at God's expense, and then tiptoe into a Bible believing church on Easter Sunday morning thinking that everything is just a-ok with Jesus, you are in for a big surprise! The deacons will smack you upside your hell bound head, they'll call the police and have you arrested for trespassing and trying to break and enter into God's Holy House, you nefarious and perverted liberal commie tofu-hugging sex-drunk medical experiment gone wrong from the land of fruits and nuts.

Don't start a missionary turf war with me, Mister Trinity Denier (what else do you deny, the Holocaust?). This forum is MY mission field, my turf, and I need for you to take your FAKE-ass Christian ramblings elsewhere...Since you like Martians so much, go save some Scientology souls bein' as they believe they came to planet Earth in a space ship piloted by talking, lava-dwelling, sea clams.

In Jesus’ love,

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The serpent was right wrote:
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When I read about a mass murderer or some other really bad person being a theist, I don't imagine it was the religion that caused him to do such bad things, but it does seem to indicate that the magic woo-woo that many theists believe makes folks "better people", doesn't seem to be working. I guess the joy and peace of Jebus didn't have an effect on this guy.
Since he was a graduate student in science, he was indoctrinated in Darwinism.

Darwinism trivializes human life.

Whether this was his motivation or not, it has been motivation for mass killing and genocide in history, including that of Nazis and Hitler.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." He criticized the Jews for bringing "Negroes into the Rhineland" with the aim of "ruining the white race" He spoke of "Monstrosities halfway between man and ape" and lamented the fact of Christians going to "Central Africa" to set up "Negro missions," resulting in the turning of "healthy ... human beings into a rotten brood." In his chapter entitled "Nation and Race," he said, "The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable." A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

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Since he was a graduate student in science, he was indoctrinated in Darwinism.
Darwinism trivializes human life.
Whether this was his motivation or not, it has been motivation for mass killing and genocide in history, including that of Nazis and Hitler.
In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." He criticized the Jews for bringing "Negroes into the Rhineland" with the aim of "ruining the white race" He spoke of "Monstrosities halfway between man and ape" and lamented the fact of Christians going to "Central Africa" to set up "Negro missions," resulting in the turning of "healthy ... human beings into a rotten brood." In his chapter entitled "Nation and Race," he said, "The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable." A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
"Since he was a graduate student in science, he was indoctrinated in Darwinism."

Do you have any evidence that he accepted the theory of evolution over his religious brainwashing?
I didn't think so.

Also, your understanding of evolution is typically flawed. No surprise there.

Lastly, Hitler was a firm believer in god. He often stated that he and the Nazi's were doing god's work. I do not believe he ever mentioned Darwin. Everything you quoted had NOTHING to do with evolution, but rather with racism. More evidence of your lack of education, common sense, honesty or decency.

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Since he was a graduate student in science, he was indoctrinated in Darwinism.
Darwinism trivializes human life.
Idiot religitards trivialize facts. Blaming Darwin for the misuse of his works shows your ignorance of Darwin and your deliberate fictions.

Darwin was against slavery and saw blacks as equal to whites. You don't like that fact, so you pretend it doesn't exist.

And so what if Hitler quoted Darwin? Hitler quoted the buybull. By your argument, we should ban the book o' blood as well.

>> "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
>> fighter.[...] In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I
>> read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose
>> in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the
>> brood of vipers and adders.[...] And if there is anything which
>> could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress
>> that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own
>> people.
-Adolf Hitler, 12 April 1922

>> "Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man
>> be 'discovered' by an election."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf), paraphrasing Mark 10:25

>> "Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of
>> all Germans as such."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

>> "Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens
>> along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the
>> Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

>> "The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted
>> negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions
>> in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching
>> and fighting for its own doctrine."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

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NightSerf wrote:
Mass murderers are anomalous almost by definition. As such, no valid inferences can be drawn about the larger groups to which they belong. Given that Holmes was heavily involved in the Presbyterian Church, what are the odds that another mass murderer will arise from it? Almost zero.
I can't fathom why people on each side of the basic argument that runs through all of the threads of the atheist forum are rushing to cast blame for this atrocity on the other. It's ridiculous to cast blame on anyone except Holmes himself.
Again, as I said before, I wasn't equating all christians with Holmes' act. I was pointing out the lie that "you need god to be good". As long as theists continue to make that false claim, it needs to be confronted.

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I agree, religion very likely had nothing to do with this.
It was most likely the 6000 rounds of real ammo, in the hands of someone who had over many years inured himself to the thought of death, by playing thousands upon thousand of incredibly gory video games.
Life as game, comes easily to those with no investment in mankind, either through family friends or community.
Not even video games. This is really why I say neanderthals.

Here's a f*cking piece of metal designed with only one purpose - to kill and you can buy them in Walmart. On the other hand games -used to fun and excitement - yeah ban those you foolish foolish people...

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