How do Atheists decide which 'magic b...

How do Atheists decide which 'magic book' to use to justify their beliefs?

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#1 May 24, 2013
I’m not one to say everyone that shares a particular aspect of their belief systems, believe the same things.
I realize there are differences within the group.

But I have noticed that many ‘contemporary’ atheists rely heavily on this magic book, that supports their beliefs. I mean of course, A Dictionary.

It used to be, until that last few decades that Atheists were know as cerebral type people.
They had spent considerable time contemplating existence, the meaning of life, and of course the existence of god. They had arrived at certain conclusions.

Contemporary atheists claim just the opposite. For them, Atheism comes with no effort, ignorance alone makes a person an atheist.

No problem with that from me, their choice.
But it seems when they attempt to justify their beliefs, they rely heavily on ‘dictionary definitions’.

Anyone familiar with dictionaries realize that you can find a dictionary to say just about anything you want.

You want a ‘horse’ to be an animal, no problem.
How about a carpenter’s tool instead, just as easy.
A pattern of irregular speech, every bit as easy.

If an animal, must it have four legs or can it have three?– I will say it must have four, The Dictionary says so, so a three legged animal cannot be a horse.

Oh what wonders of ‘sound logic’ I can perform, if only I may use my magic book, my teller of truth, that never errors, that never lies, my Dictionary.

Atheist use an appeal to authority, a ‘magic book’, to justify their belief, and say they cannot be mistaken, so it is true knowledge,, according to them.

As an outsider, it seems to me that Atheists who make appeals to Dictionaries are simply picking one that suits their purpose.
No better reason than that.

“This one works, so I will use it.”

Below is an example from a recent thread, and the OP has the blessing of several of the regular contributors to this forum, in his use of fallacious reasoning- appeal to an arbitrary authority.

~quote
Here is what I understand you to say, tell me where I got it wrong.

A theist calls himself a humanist, and the president of his humanist organization agrees.
You advise them, and any rationally minded persons, that person is not a humanist, because of his beliefs as a theist.
You do this based on the authority of a special book you use to reveal Truth (your dictionary).
You are correct by right of reason and rationality,(and of course your sacred book) so your position is really not disputable.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

So is there a rational reason or process of what Dictionary to use to accept as an authority on the use of words and terms, or is it just self serving, pick the one that works?
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#2 Jun 3, 2013
I use The God Delusion for my version of a bible.
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Pinehurst, MA

#3 Jun 4, 2013
Atheism is free of the need for "magic" books, because it rejects the idea of the supernatural, i.e. "magic".

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#4 Jun 4, 2013
BeHereNow wrote:
I’m not one to say everyone that shares a particular aspect of their belief systems, believe the same things.
I realize there are differences within the group.
But I have noticed that many ‘contemporary’ atheists rely heavily on this magic book, that supports their beliefs. I mean of course, A Dictionary.
It used to be, until that last few decades that Atheists were know as cerebral type people.
They had spent considerable time contemplating existence, the meaning of life, and of course the existence of god. They had arrived at certain conclusions.
Contemporary atheists claim just the opposite. For them, Atheism comes with no effort, ignorance alone makes a person an atheist.
No problem with that from me, their choice.
But it seems when they attempt to justify their beliefs, they rely heavily on ‘dictionary definitions’.
Anyone familiar with dictionaries realize that you can find a dictionary to say just about anything you want.
You want a ‘horse’ to be an animal, no problem.
How about a carpenter’s tool instead, just as easy.
A pattern of irregular speech, every bit as easy.
If an animal, must it have four legs or can it have three?– I will say it must have four, The Dictionary says so, so a three legged animal cannot be a horse.
Oh what wonders of ‘sound logic’ I can perform, if only I may use my magic book, my teller of truth, that never errors, that never lies, my Dictionary.
Atheist use an appeal to authority, a ‘magic book’, to justify their belief, and say they cannot be mistaken, so it is true knowledge,, according to them.
As an outsider, it seems to me that Atheists who make appeals to Dictionaries are simply picking one that suits their purpose.
No better reason than that.
“This one works, so I will use it.”
Below is an example from a recent thread, and the OP has the blessing of several of the regular contributors to this forum, in his use of fallacious reasoning- appeal to an arbitrary authority.
~quote
Here is what I understand you to say, tell me where I got it wrong.
A theist calls himself a humanist, and the president of his humanist organization agrees.
You advise them, and any rationally minded persons, that person is not a humanist, because of his beliefs as a theist.
You do this based on the authority of a special book you use to reveal Truth (your dictionary).
You are correct by right of reason and rationality,(and of course your sacred book) so your position is really not disputable.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
So is there a rational reason or process of what Dictionary to use to accept as an authority on the use of words and terms, or is it just self serving, pick the one that works?
Wow... that is the most inane thing I have ever wasted time reading part of.

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#5 Jun 4, 2013
BeHereNow wrote:
I’m not one to say everyone that shares a particular aspect of their belief systems, believe the same things.
I realize there are differences within the group.
But I have noticed that many ‘contemporary’ atheists rely heavily on this magic book, that supports their beliefs. I mean of course, A Dictionary.
It used to be, until that last few decades that Atheists were know as cerebral type people.
They had spent considerable time contemplating existence, the meaning of life, and of course the existence of god. They had arrived at certain conclusions.
Contemporary atheists claim just the opposite. For them, Atheism comes with no effort, ignorance alone makes a person an atheist.
No problem with that from me, their choice.
But it seems when they attempt to justify their beliefs, they rely heavily on ‘dictionary definitions’.
Anyone familiar with dictionaries realize that you can find a dictionary to say just about anything you want.
You want a ‘horse’ to be an animal, no problem.
How about a carpenter’s tool instead, just as easy.
A pattern of irregular speech, every bit as easy.
If an animal, must it have four legs or can it have three?– I will say it must have four, The Dictionary says so, so a three legged animal cannot be a horse.
Oh what wonders of ‘sound logic’ I can perform, if only I may use my magic book, my teller of truth, that never errors, that never lies, my Dictionary.
Atheist use an appeal to authority, a ‘magic book’, to justify their belief, and say they cannot be mistaken, so it is true knowledge,, according to them.
As an outsider, it seems to me that Atheists who make appeals to Dictionaries are simply picking one that suits their purpose.
No better reason than that.
“This one works, so I will use it.”
Below is an example from a recent thread, and the OP has the blessing of several of the regular contributors to this forum, in his use of fallacious reasoning- appeal to an arbitrary authority.
~quote
Here is what I understand you to say, tell me where I got it wrong.
A theist calls himself a humanist, and the president of his humanist organization agrees.
You advise them, and any rationally minded persons, that person is not a humanist, because of his beliefs as a theist.
You do this based on the authority of a special book you use to reveal Truth (your dictionary).
You are correct by right of reason and rationality,(and of course your sacred book) so your position is really not disputable.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
So is there a rational reason or process of what Dictionary to use to accept as an authority on the use of words and terms, or is it just self serving, pick the one that works?
All people are born atheist, which is "not thiest". It takes indoctrination to change them into thiests. Without indoctrination all people remain atheist. And of those atheist, some are avowed non-believers, and some are not.

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