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There are 172 comments on the findingDulcinea story from Jan 19, 2009, titled Atheist Ads Implemented in UK and Spain Stopped Short in Italy. In it, findingDulcinea reports that:

The controversial atheist bus advertisements now displayed on certain buses in the UK and Spain will not appear in Genoa, Italy due to conservative opposition.

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Jim

London, UK

#114 Dec 30, 2013
Platinum Reason wrote:
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My point exactly - LIVE AND LET LIVE. Atheists and theists are each entitled to their opinions without having bile spouted at them by warring agents like Jim.
Ok then,
1.REMOVE the part from your bible about Atheist being fools.
2. REMOVE the hatred of women
3. REMOVE the endorsement of slavery.
Then you can say LIVE AND LET LIVE with a clear conscience, instead of Creationist Deceit.

Put your actions where you mouth is for once, religious liars.
Jim

London, UK

#115 Dec 30, 2013
LCNin wrote:
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Atheist and theist have much in common.
Thinking people often have doubts.
Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, Jews and Muslims
most often learn from each other in peace .
Soldier from each of these five beliefs fought on the Allied side in World War II
Believing that the earth is just 3000 years old, will never replay Atheism.

You are asking the impossible of intelligent people.
Jim

London, UK

#116 Dec 30, 2013
Creationism asks us to ignore science, ignore the fact of Evolution, and replace knowledge with a bunch of badly written stories with no bearing on reality.

The stupidity of Creationist trolls means they can't even accept the definition of Atheism which is simple disbelief in god.
Jim

London, UK

#117 Dec 30, 2013
Platinum Reason wrote:
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My point exactly - LIVE AND LET LIVE. Atheists and theists are each entitled to their opinions without having bile spouted at them by warring agents like Jim.
You say 'live and let live', but where you here when the poster you replied to (LCNin( was trying to compare Atheists with Stalin & Mao?

You have fallen for the deceit of the resident creationist troll. Shows us how stupid you fly-by-trolls really are.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#118 Dec 31, 2013
I believe there is a God, I also believe that science to date, does not answer the question about existence to anywhere near a satisfactory answer to sway me from my beliefs, And I also believe that the onus is upon Atheists to prove that God does not exist or prove there is no reason for a God :)
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#119 Dec 31, 2013
Platinum Reason wrote:
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My point exactly - LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Nobody is contradicting that. People arguing against religion and gods have our point of view to express too.
Platinum Reason wrote:
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Atheists and theists are each entitled to their opinions without having bile spouted at them by warring agents like Jim.
'Warring agents like Jim'?? Lol! And when did religionists live and let live...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/atheists-mu...
One would have to live in a cave to think that.

Religion is outdated and divisive. There's no more evidence of god than of pixies and there's nothing wrong in saying so. Imagine how bad people might get if no 'warring agents' ever did!

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
and humanity needs to stop the Zionism, Islamism, tribalism, sectarianism, child genital mutilations, religious privilege (such as bishops in the Lords) and other negative consequences of religion.

There's nothing to stop congregations becoming more rational and inclusive, such as the Quaker and Unitarian ones who accept non-believers as members. I think some people are confused because they seem to believe religious propaganda suggesting that superstitious faith is inherently good and religion is harmless.

Just look at the fanaticism of Jihadists or evangelicals and say that religionists live and let live.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#120 Dec 31, 2013
trandiode wrote:
I believe there is a God, I also believe that science to date, does not answer the question about existence to anywhere near a satisfactory answer to sway me from my beliefs, And I also believe that the onus is upon Atheists to prove that God does not exist or prove there is no reason for a God :)
One often hears it said that "everyone is entitled to their beliefs". However, it might be more true and helpful to say that everyone has different beliefs and acts accordingly. It is not the beliefs themselves that are necessarily objectionable it is that people tend to act on them. I doubt if people could have flown planes into the twin towers with no belief in an afterlife where they would be judged to be 'righteous'.

Even people saying "everyone is entitled to their beliefs" is interesting. It may imply the fallacy that we all have a set of beliefs. That isn't exactly wrong but it is seriously misleading and perhaps a legacy of religious thinking. It is wrong to simply 'have faith'. Faith and beliefs should always be open to challenge and firmly based on reason and evidence. Otherwise they are dangerous.

Another point is that one cannot counter some superstitions such as witchcraft or Voodoo while trying to maintain others such as belief in Abrahamic gods and similar nonsense.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#121 Dec 31, 2013
Sorry I'm not here much and often miss replies to my posts, such as this...
Platinum Reason wrote:

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Actually Ed, this is an atheist thread on a Roman Catholic Forum. Nonetheless, I agree with your list of "No Nos". Unlike the "warring" Jim though, I know that true atheists are rational thinkers who do not stoop to spouting bile at those who disagree with them. True atheists are above conflict. The disturbed "Jim" is no more a true atheist than you are a candidate for the next Papacy.
Unquote.
Actually it is not 'an atheist thread on the RC Forum'. What happens is that the same thread is listed on many forums. In this case the tread is on the RC and Atheist forums and maybe others.

As for atheists 'spouting bile', we all have our different syles. I try to promote a less antagonistic approach but we act according to our nature and nurture, not our religion or lack of any.

Speak up Jim and all.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#122 Dec 31, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Atheism is a simple disbelief in religion - its not a position, its a conclusion after hearing all the crap religious liars have peddled for thousands of years.
Atheism is nothing new. Its just people are becoming smarter and this scares the religious liars, who until now, got away with threatning you with hell like it was nothing.
Exactly, though 'liars' might be a bit harsh. Being mistaken and superstition is not quite the same thing as lying.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#123 Dec 31, 2013
rio wrote:
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Seems to me this thread is an attack against believers.
A sort of self-appreciation society for atheists of all ilks.
Then you should try reading what people write and addressing the substance of the criticisms.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#124 Dec 31, 2013
This is such obvious nonsense it surely needs no comment...
rio wrote:
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[I will present evience of a god(d)] Only after you give me evidence that there is no god.
Ha, you can't? Well, we are equal then...
That disbelief is not a belief and that belief in fairies isn't just as reasonable as disbelief of them have been debunked so often. Maybe such confusion indicates one reason for the persistence of religion and religious faith.
Jim

London, UK

#125 Dec 31, 2013
trandiode wrote:
I believe there is a God, I also believe that science to date, does not answer the question about existence
Look at the selfish religious looking to Science to answer their questions of existence.

Science studies the universe through observation. It makes no difference what you choose to believe.

If you choose to ignore science and what science says about the universe using evidence, then you are by definition and stupid willfully ignorant idiot.

Willfully ignorant of facts that directly disprove what you believe.

There's no way getting around it.
trandiode wrote:
to anywhere near a satisfactory answer to sway me from my beliefs,
Science doesn't care what ignorant religious idiots believe, its concerned with the facts.
trandiode wrote:
And I also believe that the onus is upon Atheists to prove that God does not exist or prove there is no reason for a God :)
Again, Logic, doesn't care what you believe. The burden of proof has always been on the religious liars like you who whine and squirm when confronted with the fact that you have no evidence of god and are lying about it.

When you are mature enough to tell the truth and admit that you're a liar, then will be cured of your illness.
Jim

London, UK

#126 Dec 31, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, though 'liars' might be a bit harsh. Being mistaken and superstition is not quite the same thing as lying.
Its definitely lying. If there were mistaken, they would not deliberately try to spread propoganda and ridicule scientists.

They have a strong agenda of lying and misinformation and they know it. Evangelism is built into the cults.
Jim

London, UK

#127 Dec 31, 2013
The books being printed and distributed, the buildings being built, the time & money being sucked from society while offering nothing in return.

It is all based on a lie and they know they are lying.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#128 Dec 31, 2013
trandiode wrote:
I believe there is a God, I also believe that science to date, does not answer the question about existence to anywhere near a satisfactory answer to sway me from my beliefs, And I also believe that the onus is upon Atheists to prove that God does not exist or prove there is no reason for a God :)
If god created the universe he can't possibly be part of the universe.

So to all intents and purposes, he doesn't exist.

Despite your claims, proving he doesn't exist won't change a single thing about your belief, will it?
LCNin

United States

#130 Dec 31, 2013
In the News

Ticktock. Ticktock. Ticktock.

The seconds left in 2013 are slipping away. And you know what else is slipping away? The seconds left in your life.

Luckily for you, there's a new product called Tikker, a wristwatch that counts down your life, so you can watch on a large, dot-matrix display as the seconds you have left on Earth disappear down a black hole.

Your estimated time of death is, of course, just that — an estimate. Tikker uses an algorithm like the one used by the federal government to figure a person's life expectancy. But the effect is chilling, a sort of incessant grim reaper reminding you that time is running out.

Tikker's inventor is a 37-year-old Swede named Fredrik Colting. He says he invented the gadget not as a morbid novelty item, but in an earnest attempt to change his own thinking.

He wanted some sort of reminder to not sweat the small stuff and reach for what matters. Colting, a former gravedigger, figured imminent death was the best motivator there is. That's why he calls Tikker "the happiness watch." It's his belief that watching your life slip away will remind you to savor life while you have it.

And, it turns out, there is some evidence for his point of view. A 2009 study showed that thinking about death makes you savor life more. And a 2011 study has shown that thinking about death makes you more generous, more likely to donate your blood.

But that's not the whole story. A whole dark underbelly of research suggests that thinking about our own mortality can bring out the worst in us. The work of Jeff Greenberg, Sheldon Solomon and Tom Pyszczynski — grandfathers of an idea in social psychology called terror management theory — has shown that thinking about death makes us, well, pretty xenophobic. When confronted with our mortality, we cling to those like us and disparage those who are different.

Now, why do you get both positive and negative effects? Well, that's an open question in science right now. Do both always occur? Does it depend on the person? Does it depend on the way in which you are made to think about death, specifically picturing your own death or thinking about death in a more abstract or subliminal way? No one knows yet.

So whether Tikker will make you happy or, as Solomon quipped to me, "a xenophobic serial killer," is still unknown. What is known is that the watch will be available in April 2014, and thousands of preorders have already rolled in.

Happy New Year
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#131 Dec 31, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Atheists are intolerant of liars with no evidence. Some people take offense at this fact, but it is their problem, not the problem of atheists.
Atheism is a simple disbelief in religious liars. And agnostic liars like yourself as well.
Atheism is a simple disbelief in religious liars. Love it couldn't say it better my self , You are learning Jim congratulations :)
Jim

London, UK

#132 Dec 31, 2013
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism is a simple disbelief in religious liars. Love it couldn't say it better my self , You are learning Jim congratulations :)
Its just your bitter creationist ignorance talking again.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#133 Jan 1, 2014
I can read wrote:
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If god created the universe he can't possibly be part of the universe.
So to all intents and purposes, he doesn't exist.
Despite your claims, proving he doesn't exist won't change a single thing about your belief, will it?
Some peoples reasoning and logic can really make me wonder whether we really are the most intelligent species on the earth !
Platinum Reason

Torquay, UK

#134 Jan 1, 2014
Jim wrote:
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Ok then,
1.REMOVE the part from your bible about Atheist being fools.
2. REMOVE the hatred of women
3. REMOVE the endorsement of slavery.
Then you can say LIVE AND LET LIVE with a clear conscience, instead of Creationist Deceit.
Put your actions where you mouth is for once, religious liars.

The more you post Jim the more stupid you become. Nowhere in any of my posts do I claim to believe in a god or gods. I am a true atheist. A true atheist , since you obviously are not one, since you are a crusader for your non-belief, when crusaders in any form are unbalanced bullies.

No one has any right to tell anyone else who to worship or what to worship, or indeed that they must worship at all if they find the whole concept of religion so tenuous as to lack credibility at any level.

Everyone must have the freedom to choose what they are inclined to believe in though. That is the democratic way.

Warring bullies like you are pathologically obnoxious by nature. Check your feedback - nobody takes you seriously.

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