Pat Robertson suggests woman's atheis...

Pat Robertson suggests woman's atheism was caused by rape or abuse

There are 56 comments on the The Kansas City Star story from Mar 25, 2014, titled Pat Robertson suggests woman's atheism was caused by rape or abuse. In it, The Kansas City Star reports that:

Well, this is certainly a theory we hadn’t considered. Pat Robertson speculated on his show Monday that an atheist woman didn’t believe in God because she had been abused by her father or raped.

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#21 Apr 2, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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Prosperity Gospel.
God blesses those with wealth.
It's the Divine Right of Kings and nobility titles all over again.
Instead of Crown Prince, it's now CEO. Duke is CFO. Marquis is CIO and so on.
Only thing that has changed is the noble titles are now Cxx of a Corporation (kingdom) but the same historical idea remains the same.
In Nigeria it is used as a means by the rich to exploit the poor.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22 Apr 2, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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In Nigeria it is used as a means by the rich to exploit the poor.
It is used that way everywhere. As long as people buy into the Horatio Alger myth that they, too can some day be wealthy, they won't support measures to address income inequality and privilege, because they fantasize that someday, they will be the ones with the wealth and the privilege.

That's why the Tea Party in the US eats out of the hand of the Koch brothers, supporting their agenda, which is basically breaking unions, keeping the minimum wage low, huge subsidies (corporate welfare) for big corporations, while gutting welfare and programs for the relief of the poor. Tax breaks for the wealthy while the budget is balanced on the backs of the poor and the ever-shrinking middle class. Corporate America hates Obamacare because it promotes job mobility. If you don't have to depend on your corporate bosses for health coverage, it is easier to move from job to job. Health care is the chain that keeps the wage slaves from running off the plantation.

All of these things are actually directly adverse to the real financial interests of the Tea Party, most of whom are middle class, or elderly and living on pensions and social security (which many of them don't understand is a government program). They support them, nevertheless, because of the delusion that someday they will be rich, and they don't want to be 'oppressed' by measures like progressive taxation without loopholes.

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#23 Apr 3, 2014
Amused wrote:
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It is used that way everywhere. As long as people buy into the Horatio Alger myth that they, too can some day be wealthy, they won't support measures to address income inequality and privilege, because they fantasize that someday, they will be the ones with the wealth and the privilege.
That's why the Tea Party in the US eats out of the hand of the Koch brothers, supporting their agenda, which is basically breaking unions, keeping the minimum wage low, huge subsidies (corporate welfare) for big corporations, while gutting welfare and programs for the relief of the poor. Tax breaks for the wealthy while the budget is balanced on the backs of the poor and the ever-shrinking middle class. Corporate America hates Obamacare because it promotes job mobility. If you don't have to depend on your corporate bosses for health coverage, it is easier to move from job to job. Health care is the chain that keeps the wage slaves from running off the plantation.
All of these things are actually directly adverse to the real financial interests of the Tea Party, most of whom are middle class, or elderly and living on pensions and social security (which many of them don't understand is a government program). They support them, nevertheless, because of the delusion that someday they will be rich, and they don't want to be 'oppressed' by measures like progressive taxation without loopholes.
You are right. These so called Christians are so nasty to those who are poor in direct violation of their own Jesus' teachings.

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#24 Apr 3, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
Pat Robertson is part of the reason why I am atheist.
Isn't he right behind Phelps going down under?

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#25 Apr 3, 2014
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't he right behind Phelps going down under?
Yes he is.

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#26 Apr 3, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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In Nigeria it is used as a means by the rich to exploit the poor.
Can you blame them?

The rich Nigerians still are wanting of refrigerators.

And Fox News told me 99% of the poor in the US have them.

It's a scenario ripe for exploitation of Real Christian Americans to deprive them of the refrigerators God granted them by divine miracle.
You are wrong

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#27 Apr 3, 2014
God didn't look out for this victim my ass what about all the other rape victims. I believe in ww2 Russian military raped over I believe 3 million INNOCENT German woman guess he wasn't lookin after than ethier and that's just 1 instance that's not including rape althroughout history

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#28 Apr 3, 2014
You are wrong wrote:
God didn't look out for this victim my ass what about all the other rape victims. I believe in ww2 Russian military raped over I believe 3 million INNOCENT German woman guess he wasn't lookin after than ethier and that's just 1 instance that's not including rape althroughout history
That's just awful!

The American GI Joe's only raped 12 German Nazi women in WW2.

Those commie Ruskies beat us again!

If only we could casually disregard war crimes like them, we could out-rape the Russians.

But for a Constitutional Republic, it takes time to wear down the shields and ethics necessary to compete with a totalitarian dictatorship.

We have made great strides in finding the loopholes of the Constitution and Geneva Conventions in the last 30 years. When WW3 happens the US is primed to be the most rapiest country in the world!
USA!
USA!
U...S...A!
Amused

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#29 Apr 4, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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You are right. These so called Christians are so nasty to those who are poor in direct violation of their own Jesus' teachings.
Anyone professing to believe in Jesus AND the Paul Ryan budget should have their heads explode from cognitive dissonance. There's no way to simultaneously embrace the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount and the relentlessly anti-poor (not anti poverty) agenda of the Congressional republicans.

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#30 Apr 7, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Anyone professing to believe in Jesus AND the Paul Ryan budget should have their heads explode from cognitive dissonance. There's no way to simultaneously embrace the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount and the relentlessly anti-poor (not anti poverty) agenda of the Congressional republicans.
You are right. Paul was called out on his bullshyt when he said he was devoted to Ayn Rand when Ayn was an atheist who preached complete selfishness as something ideal. Ryan later denied saying that.
The reality is that conservatives are false Christians, cafeteria ones, who only listen to the bible when they cause it to support their bigotry.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#31 Apr 8, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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You are right. Paul was called out on his bullshyt when he said he was devoted to Ayn Rand when Ayn was an atheist who preached complete selfishness as something ideal. Ryan later denied saying that.
The reality is that conservatives are false Christians, cafeteria ones, who only listen to the bible when they cause it to support their bigotry.
Ryan being an acolyte of Ayn Rand makes much more sense, and is a much more consistent philosophy, than Ryan as a "christian" who espouses an agenda that is precisely the opposite of the teachings of his religion.

It is also a reminder that atheists share nothing more than a lack of belief in god. Atheism is compatible with any economic theory or political ideology, except obviously, theocracy.

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#32 Apr 8, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Ryan being an acolyte of Ayn Rand makes much more sense, and is a much more consistent philosophy, than Ryan as a "christian" who espouses an agenda that is precisely the opposite of the teachings of his religion.
It is also a reminder that atheists share nothing more than a lack of belief in god. Atheism is compatible with any economic theory or political ideology, except obviously, theocracy.
Exactly. Atheism doesn't require one to believe in anything, yet the Christians live to pretend that we are all communist. It is their only way to counter when we point out the murderous deeds of their tyrant.
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#33 Apr 9, 2014
Cuba is crammed full of communist christians...
emperorjohn wrote:
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Exactly. Atheism doesn't require one to believe in anything, yet the Christians live to pretend that we are all communist. It is their only way to counter when we point out the murderous deeds of their tyrant.

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#34 Apr 9, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Cuba is crammed full of communist christians...
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Ted Cruz's father is one of them and he's insane.

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#35 Apr 9, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Cuba is crammed full of communist christians...
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Shhh! Don't tell that to the Christians.
Don't tell them that the early xtians were quite communist either.
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#36 Apr 10, 2014
Modern christians are too. They say there is only one way, only one jesus, no compromises. That's goddam commie speak!!!
emperorjohn wrote:
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Shhh! Don't tell that to the Christians.
Don't tell them that the early xtians were quite communist either.

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#37 Apr 11, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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The odd thing is that I have never seen an equation or Scientific Theory with a 'goddidit' term.
And you never will.

"goddidit" is pure bullshyt-- superstitious woo.

It does not answer **anything**....

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#38 Apr 11, 2014
Amused wrote:
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It is used that way everywhere. As long as people buy into the Horatio Alger myth that they, too can some day be wealthy, they won't support measures to address income inequality and privilege, because they fantasize that someday, they will be the ones with the wealth and the privilege.
That's why the Tea Party in the US eats out of the hand of the Koch brothers, supporting their agenda, which is basically breaking unions, keeping the minimum wage low, huge subsidies (corporate welfare) for big corporations, while gutting welfare and programs for the relief of the poor. Tax breaks for the wealthy while the budget is balanced on the backs of the poor and the ever-shrinking middle class. Corporate America hates Obamacare because it promotes job mobility. If you don't have to depend on your corporate bosses for health coverage, it is easier to move from job to job. Health care is the chain that keeps the wage slaves from running off the plantation.
All of these things are actually directly adverse to the real financial interests of the Tea Party, most of whom are middle class, or elderly and living on pensions and social security (which many of them don't understand is a government program). They support them, nevertheless, because of the delusion that someday they will be rich, and they don't want to be 'oppressed' by measures like progressive taxation without loopholes.
Yep.

You nailed that one perfectly.

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#39 Apr 11, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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You are right. These so called Christians are so nasty to those who are poor in direct violation of their own Jesus' teachings.
Ultimately, it's a very selfish, ego-driven religion.

And this is just proof of that.

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#40 Apr 11, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Anyone professing to believe in Jesus AND the Paul Ryan budget should have their heads explode from cognitive dissonance. There's no way to simultaneously embrace the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount and the relentlessly anti-poor (not anti poverty) agenda of the Congressional republicans.
You are absolutely correct.

In fact?**ANY** form of capitalism (which is greed-based), is 100% against what the Traditional bible claims Jesus said.

Jesus pretty much said to give away **all** possessions apart from one set of clothes, give **all** your money to the church, and go and live *in* the church as a commune.

The **only** time Jesus interacted with capitalists? He beat them and ran them out of their place of business...(those capitalistic temple money changers)

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