Are there any atheists here that are against homosexuality and/or gay marriage?

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Mike N

New City, NY

#1 Apr 8, 2012
Just a curious question. I really want to hear the answer from straight atheists. It will be interesting to see. Hopefully the answer will be NO across the board.
Mike N

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#2 Apr 8, 2012
Actually I will say "yes" because I want polygamy legalized because I want a conga line of spades doing me every night!
Mike N

New City, NY

#3 Apr 8, 2012
Mike N wrote:
Actually I will say "yes" because I want polygamy legalized because I want a conga line of spades doing me every night!
Your responses and the fact that you are using my username clearly shows that you are a believer and a bigot trolling on here which shows the very intolerance that religion is responsible for.
KING JAMES

Folsom, CA

#4 Apr 8, 2012
Mike N wrote:
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Your responses and the fact that you are using my username clearly shows that you are a believer and a bigot trolling on here which shows the very intolerance that religion is responsible for.
hes Muslim too
KING JAMES

Folsom, CA

#5 Apr 8, 2012
Mike N wrote:
Just a curious question. I really want to hear the answer from straight atheists. It will be interesting to see. Hopefully the answer will be NO across the board.
Great question. Back when I was Christian(3 years ago) I wrote an essay against gay marriage. Now that I am am atheist and I can't use religion to support that stance, I am indifferent to gay rights. I wont fight them or support them. Now that I am outside the Christian norm I see them as similar to atheists in their struggle.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you I have an atheist friend who hates homosexuals. He says two guys together is unnatural and should not be allowed.
Mike N

New City, NY

#6 Apr 8, 2012
KING JAMES wrote:
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hes Muslim too
Yeah I assume thats the case based on the country that shows in his posts. I posted a warning thread about this guy.
Mike N

New City, NY

#7 Apr 11, 2012
KING JAMES wrote:
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Great question. Back when I was Christian(3 years ago) I wrote an essay against gay marriage. Now that I am am atheist and I can't use religion to support that stance, I am indifferent to gay rights. I wont fight them or support them. Now that I am outside the Christian norm I see them as similar to atheists in their struggle.
Unfortunately, I have to tell you I have an atheist friend who hates homosexuals. He says two guys together is unnatural and should not be allowed.
King I completely missed responding to your answer on Sunday. Its interesting that you are still against gay marriage especially given all the evidence of homosexual behavior in the rest of the animal kingdom. I'd expect most atheists who generally look to science for life's answers to be more open to it. It sounds a little to me like you still hold on to some of what society as a whole ingrained in you. Hopefully that will change for you in time. The same thing for your friend but he is in worse shape because it sounds like he doesn't feel they deserve equality.

But truthfully most people who are against homosexuality are not against it for religious reasons even if they claim to be. They just don't like it because its not what they are familiar with and it makes them uncomfortable, the same things that keep you on the fence about it. Most believers just use the religious angle as ammo against it but most of them would still be against it regardless of what how the bible interpreted it.
KING JAMES

Folsom, CA

#8 Apr 11, 2012
Mike N wrote:
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King I completely missed responding to your answer on Sunday. Its interesting that you are still against gay marriage especially given all the evidence of homosexual behavior in the rest of the animal kingdom. I'd expect most atheists who generally look to science for life's answers to be more open to it. It sounds a little to me like you still hold on to some of what society as a whole ingrained in you. Hopefully that will change for you in time. The same thing for your friend but he is in worse shape because it sounds like he doesn't feel they deserve equality.
But truthfully most people who are against homosexuality are not against it for religious reasons even if they claim to be. They just don't like it because its not what they are familiar with and it makes them uncomfortable, the same things that keep you on the fence about it. Most believers just use the religious angle as ammo against it but most of them would still be against it regardless of what how the bible interpreted it.
I'm not against it, im completely indifferent. Im not for it or against it.
Mike N

New City, NY

#9 Apr 11, 2012
KING JAMES wrote:
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I'm not against it, im completely indifferent. Im not for it or against it.
Sorry if I misinterpreted what you said. Can you tell me why you feel indifferent toward it? I guess what I am saying if someone asked you to vote for or against gay marriage what would you vote? I am just trying to understand what drives your indifference since clearly its no longer religion that steers you.
KING JAMES

Folsom, CA

#10 Apr 11, 2012
Mike N wrote:
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Sorry if I misinterpreted what you said. Can you tell me why you feel indifferent toward it? I guess what I am saying if someone asked you to vote for or against gay marriage what would you vote? I am just trying to understand what drives your indifference since clearly its no longer religion that steers you.
I would not vote. It is not my job to define marriage. I have no problem with homosexuals as people. If they get marriage and it makes them happy good for them. All I am saying is I will let other people decide on this issue because I do not feel strongly about it. I am still conflicted by the issue. It is hard to have a 180 degree change of opinion in a couple years.
Mike N

New City, NY

#11 Apr 12, 2012
King, thank you for your response and I understand you can't change your opinion overnight.

My entire life, even as a little kid, I always felt that people should be happy in whatever way makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or me, though sometimes I do put others before myself. So I will do whatever I can to help them gain that happiness. So in the case of equality for gays or equality for all races and such I will stand up for them.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12 Apr 12, 2012
I live in the United Kingdom Mike.
LGBTs seem on the verge of winning the right to be married here. Most people accept making rights of 'civil partnership' equal to those of marriage isn't enough.

A prominent, if unpopular, gay activist called Peter Tatchell asked,“would it be okay for black people or Jews to be given equal rights as ‘civil partners’, but refused acceptance on State registers of marriage?” That seems to have won the day. People talk of racism and homophobia, but the mass of people are outraged by prejudice itself. How is equality achieved if homosexuals don’t have it?

You are my equal Mike and have my unequivocal support.

It is interesting to note (I hope) that the legislation of gay marriage looks like being passed and implemented by a Christian PM (David Cameron) and Christian Communities Minister (Eric Pickles). Even (Muslim) Baroness Warsi seems to be pragmatically mute in the upper house. Opposition is from most churches.

I am referring to State marriage registration only. No cleric, church or group will be compelled to implement a marriage ceremony. Personally religious people who are Registrars of State marriage are imbued with the tradition of the British civil service – impartial obedience to Parliament, without intrusion of personal views.

Gays already effectively have full rights in the UK as civil partners,(e.g. they can adopt children).
http://www.newfamilysocial.co.uk/...

I think marriage should be left to the consciences of individuals. Faith and other communities (e.g. humanists or atheists) should be allowed to define it as they wish. The State should end all registers of marriage and civil partnership. All laws, taxes and benefits should be written and applied to everyone as if they are single.

Why should a wife have the right to refuse to testify against a husband? Why not a daughter against a father? ALL interest of the State or government in the question of someone’s marriage is an anachronistic legacy of history,(as is religion). It would be better (and cheaper) for such State registers to end altogether. That would be consistent with the principles of: freedom of and from religion; and separation of Church and State.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#13 Apr 12, 2012
It`s perfectly fine for same sex relationships to get wed, you can be married but not in the eyes of a "god" but to eachother and to show all your family and friends that you are very serious about spending there lives with eachother, anyways its the 20st centary :) get with the times oldies hehe

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#14 Apr 20, 2012
I'm atheist and bisexual who is currently in a relationship with my gay boyfriend. Would be kind of silly to be against myself. :)

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#15 Apr 20, 2012
EdSed wrote:
I live in the United Kingdom Mike.
LGBTs seem on the verge of winning the right to be married here.
Ireland is also on the verge of passing marriage equality as well.

Since: Jun 10

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#16 Apr 21, 2012
Why would I want to meddle in anyone else's business.
Julia r

Phoenix, AZ

#18 Mar 24, 2013
I am one, a "homophobe" if you will. And I certainly am an atheist. This would only sound strange to a Westerner. Plenty of Asians and other people on the planet do not believe in a god and do not believe that accepting homosexual unions is beneficial to a culture.
Julia r

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Mar 24, 2013
Because I see kids being adopted by gay couples. I too was denied my biological right to be raised by a man and a woman. As a child it hurt. I wanted a mom and dad.
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#20 Mar 26, 2013
By the same logic, should accepting Asians be regarded as beneficial to a culture?
Julia r wrote:
I am one, a "homophobe" if you will. And I certainly am an atheist. This would only sound strange to a Westerner. Plenty of Asians and other people on the planet do not believe in a god and do not believe that accepting homosexual unions is beneficial to a culture.
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#21 Jul 26, 2013
YES.

I'm an Atheist & I think homosexuality is DISGUSTING. I don't care how "homophobic" or "bigot" you think I am, I think the idea of a man sticking his dick up another man's asshole is fucking GROSS! The lifestyle also is the biggest contributor of deadly STDs. In Canada alone, 70% of AIDS cases come from MSM.

As for marriage, marriage is actually a religious thing. Many homosexuals are NOT religious & could care less about what best for the child. Many children raised by homosexual parents end up being in worst condition than children raised by heterosexual parents. I don't think it's right. Honestly, the churches should be ones who decides who get married, & the government should have nothing to do with it.

I also don't think it's right how the GLBTs are after eliminating their opponent's freedom of speech & religion. They want to criminalize those who disagree with the lifestyle & pretty much oppress free thinking people from believing in the imaginary man in the sky. People should have the right to believe what they want without being persecuted.

I don't need a Bible to prove to you the lifestyle is sick. At its core, it just is. It takes a man & a woman to create a life. Man + Woman = Life. This is a biological fact!

You'd be surprised how many pro-homo supporters have been shocked to find out I'm a Atheist against homosexuality. Their reactions are PRICELESS! Especially, since so many of them are so used to everyone disagreeing with them being religious.

The GLBTs call me a "bigot" for disagreeing simply because of scientific proof. Says everything about them. And I've come to conclusion that I don't like them that much.

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