WLC

Athens, TN

#1 Dec 19, 2013
Without editorializing, I would be interested in a non- Christian's description of Christian belief.

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#2 Dec 19, 2013
Duck Dynasty
Amused

Lowell, MA

#3 Dec 19, 2013
Christianity is the belief that god begat himself as the son of himself, with the help of a married virgin with a very, very understanding husband, in order to sacrifice himself to appease himself, so that mankind could be saved from his own wrath over people eating an apple.

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Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#4 Dec 20, 2013
Socially accepted delusion.
Thinking

Windsor, UK

#5 Dec 20, 2013
And this god is all powerful, yet he wasn't able to roll back his software to just before the apple was eaten because of... um. Why couldn't he do that?
Amused wrote:
Christianity is the belief that god begat himself as the son of himself, with the help of a married virgin with a very, very understanding husband, in order to sacrifice himself to appease himself, so that mankind could be saved from his own wrath over people eating an apple.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#6 Dec 20, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And this god is all powerful, yet he wasn't able to roll back his software to just before the apple was eaten because of... um. Why couldn't he do that?
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If he was all-powerful, why couldn't he simply say he forgave mankind? Why the need for the Rube-Goldberg like plan for the creation of a son for the express purpose of sacrifice?

It does suggest that god has to follow rules. The existence of rules that bind this deity imply the existence of a rule-maker with the power to limit the christian god's actions. Such a rule-maker would, by definition, be more powerful than the supposedly all-powerful god. So, why don't christians cut out the middleman and worship this more powerful being?
Thinking

Windsor, UK

#7 Dec 20, 2013
So if they prayed to the law maker, then maybe their god would be given the resources to make another jesus?
Amused wrote:
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If he was all-powerful, why couldn't he simply say he forgave mankind? Why the need for the Rube-Goldberg like plan for the creation of a son for the express purpose of sacrifice?
It does suggest that god has to follow rules. The existence of rules that bind this deity imply the existence of a rule-maker with the power to limit the christian god's actions. Such a rule-maker would, by definition, be more powerful than the supposedly all-powerful god. So, why don't christians cut out the middleman and worship this more powerful being?
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#8 Dec 20, 2013
I'm guessing that, at one point or another, WLC regales us with the "Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship" argument.:)
Amused

Lowell, MA

#9 Dec 20, 2013
Gillette wrote:
I'm guessing that, at one point or another, WLC regales us with the "Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship" argument.:)
a relationship with an imaginary being is not unlike the relationship between a child and its teddy bear. The human gets comfort, is able to project onto the imaginary being/teddy bear all the empathy and love needed to sustain the relationship, and both gods and teddy bears forgive you if you hurt their feelings.(Though the forgiveness of teddy bears doesn't require the torture to death of a child of the teddy bear as an appeasing offering. I guess if I had to choose between the two relationships, I'd go for the teddy bear.).
LCNLin

United States

#10 Dec 20, 2013
Amused wrote:
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a relationship with an imaginary being is not unlike the relationship between a child and its teddy bear. The human gets comfort, is able to project onto the imaginary being/teddy bear all the empathy and love needed to sustain the relationship, and both gods and teddy bears forgive you if you hurt their feelings.(Though the forgiveness of teddy bears doesn't require the torture to death of a child of the teddy bear as an appeasing offering. I guess if I had to choose between the two relationships, I'd go for the teddy bear.).
Your Opinions are always amusing, some warmed over Dawkins and some fairy tales to comfort atheists?

Happy Christmas
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#13 Dec 21, 2013
WLC wrote:
Without editorializing, I would be interested in a non- Christian's description of Christian belief.
Superstition, like witchcraft or voodoo.

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