Our world came from nothing?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#251 Jul 28, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not so sure about that. Unless lying involves perjury, fraud, libel, slander, or other crimes, I suspect that it is as protected as any other form of speech. Any lawyers care to chime in on this?
I think your the most intelligent here .I don't lie, but even if I did, no one is gonna send me to life in prison.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#252 Jul 28, 2014
religionisillness wrote:
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You are lying - there's no such thing as god - doesn't matter if you believe or not - its not real.
Being a f%cktard is the same as having a mental illness. You choose to lie to us first.
I'm not the one thinking nothing created this beautiful world of ours, or at least it used to be beautiful in some places.
I'm not mental, I just have different opinions, beliefs and views. What's the problem with that.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#253 Jul 28, 2014
richardfs wrote:
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If you wish o behave like a spoiled child then expect to be treated like one.
As I said I do not suffer fools and you are a fool.
People tell me, that even if someone is being nasty and rude to you, doesn't mean you should be nasty back.

And where Am I acting like a spoiled child, am I one because I just have a different belief, opinion and view from you. Last time I heard people said everyone has the right to their views and should not be judged for that.

I'm also a very intelligent person. Just because I believe in something that you don't think is true, doesn't mean I don't have a education.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#254 Jul 29, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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I'm not the one thinking nothing created this beautiful world of ours, or at least it used to be beautiful in some places.
I'm not mental, I just have different opinions, beliefs and views. What's the problem with that.
Your opinion are simply ignorant hate.

Even after people explain to y why you are wrong, you continue to lie.

There is no hope for the brainwashed.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#255 Jul 29, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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People tell me, that even if someone is being nasty and rude to you, doesn't mean you should be nasty back.
And where Am I acting like a spoiled child, am I one because I just have a different belief, opinion and view from you. Last time I heard people said everyone has the right to their views and should not be judged for that.
I'm also a very intelligent person. Just because I believe in something that you don't think is true, doesn't mean I don't have a education.
You're stupid, because you believe in god, despite evidence against it.

You're stupid because you deny science, despite it being the reason why you know the world is awesome and full of creatures.

You're stupid because you deny Atheists their rights, while claiming that god made he world perfect.

It can't be made any more clear why you are stupid and ignorant. But will you learn or change your ways?

Obviously not, because you are stupid and will keep arguing ignorance despite being proven 100% wrong.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#256 Jul 29, 2014
I understand the temptation to call those who disagree with us stupid or ignorant, but how does rudeness advance or enhance any conversation? Are we here to discuss ideas or to vent feelings like anger or disdain? When we indulge in the latter, are we at all justified in calling anyone else nasty, spoiled, or childish?

I believe that one of the best measures of character is how we treat others, and I doubt that I'm the only one who notices courtesy and its lack. Something to think about...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#257 Jul 29, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
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Your opinion are simply ignorant hate.
Even after people explain to y why you are wrong, you continue to lie.
There is no hope for the brainwashed.
He needs someone to kick him a bit. Post after post he complains of how horridly we will treat him, and then almost no one does. He is begging for it. So please someone fulfilled his needs, act as he accuses us of acting. He needs to be derided, he needs to be mocked. He will even hand you the words that he would have you use to hurt him.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#258 Jul 30, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
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You're stupid, because you believe in god, despite evidence against it.
You're stupid because you deny science, despite it being the reason why you know the world is awesome and full of creatures.
You're stupid because you deny Atheists their rights, while claiming that god made he world perfect.
It can't be made any more clear why you are stupid and ignorant. But will you learn or change your ways?
Obviously not, because you are stupid and will keep arguing ignorance despite being proven 100% wrong.
Wait, has the Big Bang been proven. No. Has Evolution been proven. No.

That's why it's called the Big Bang THEORY. You see that. Can you see THEORY. Science hasn't proven Evolution or the Big Bang because it hasn't been OBSERVED.

There is only ONE WAY TO PROVE THE BIG BANG, and that's too observe it. It's impossible to track a event 13.8BILLION years ago. No matter how advanced Science is, it can't go back 13.8billion years.

There a difference between theory and fact. The Big Bang is just a theory, sure the most popular one, but it's still just a theory.

There is a difference between THEORY and FACT.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#259 Jul 30, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
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You're stupid, because you believe in god, despite evidence against it.
You're stupid because you deny science, despite it being the reason why you know the world is awesome and full of creatures.
You're stupid because you deny Atheists their rights, while claiming that god made he world perfect.
It can't be made any more clear why you are stupid and ignorant. But will you learn or change your ways?
Obviously not, because you are stupid and will keep arguing ignorance despite being proven 100% wrong.
When has God been disproven. It's a simple fact, you can't disprove God there is no evidence against him.

And when did I deny you your rights?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#260 Jul 30, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>He needs someone to kick him a bit. Post after post he complains of how horridly we will treat him, and then almost no one does. He is begging for it. So please someone fulfilled his needs, act as he accuses us of acting. He needs to be derided, he needs to be mocked. He will even hand you the words that he would have you use to hurt him.
Wait, wait, wait. Calling me a fucktard isn't being horribly treated?

I dare you to go into a church and call Christians fucktards. Wait, but you wouldn't do that, because your a coward. You know the internet is where we can be just cold people. Calling other people uneducated because you love being evil.

We are lucky guys like Nelson Mandela and Billy Graham existed. Because if they were Atheists. They would go on the internet calling people idiots all day long.
Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#261 Jul 30, 2014
Wrong. If you weren't a christian, you'd still be a nasty wanker.
Don't use religion as an excuse for your poor standards.
Charchar king wrote:
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See, Even if I believe in a delusion, at least I have a good heart and think about other people . I'm not a joke who goes around telling his friends Their dumbf**** because they are Muslim and Catholic,
This is the reason people don't really like Atheists, because their not friendly at all, if you're not a atheist, then you're automatically a f***tard.
Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#262 Jul 30, 2014
Did you find it beautiful when animals were disembowelled at Mandela's funeral?

I wouldn't have done that.
Carchar king wrote:
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I'm not the one thinking nothing created this beautiful world of ours, or at least it used to be beautiful in some places.
I'm not mental, I just have different opinions, beliefs and views. What's the problem with that.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#263 Jul 30, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Wait, has the Big Bang been proven. No. Has Evolution been proven. No.
.
Science never PROVES things. Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. Science gathers evidence and advances explanations that tie together all that evidence (scientific theories).
Carchar king wrote:
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That's why it's called the Big Bang THEORY. You see that. Can you see THEORY. Science hasn't proven Evolution or the Big Bang because it hasn't been OBSERVED.
That's NOT what "theory" means in science. It is NOT "something not observed that people are speculating about."
Carchar king wrote:
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There is only ONE WAY TO PROVE THE BIG BANG, and that's too observe it..
Science doesn't PROVE things.

And the Big Bang is accepted because of the preponderance of the evidence FOR it.
Carchar king wrote:
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No matter how advanced Science is, it can't go back 13.8billion years.
Science doesn't NEED to go back, with all that evidence LEFT BEHIND by the Big Bang and by the evolution of species.
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between THEORY and FACT.
Yes, but not the one you think.

Suppose you describe, in detail, the difference between a theory and a fact.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#264 Jul 30, 2014
Gillette wrote:
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Science never PROVES things. Proof is for mathematics and alcohol.
You just stated on another thread that ERVs are "indisputable proof" of human/ape common lineage.

Which is it?

Does science "never prove things", or is this "indisputable proof"?

Which of your statements is wrong?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#265 Jul 30, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Wait, wait, wait. Calling me a fucktard isn't being horribly treated?
I dare you to go into a church and call Christians fucktards. Wait, but you wouldn't do that, because your a coward. You know the internet is where we can be just cold people. Calling other people uneducated because you love being evil.
We are lucky guys like Nelson Mandela and Billy Graham existed. Because if they were Atheists. They would go on the internet calling people idiots all day long.
Again ..... He needs someone to kick him a bit. Post after post he complains of how horridly we will treat him, and then almost no one does. He is begging for it. So please someone fulfilled his needs, act as he accuses us of acting. He needs to be derided, he needs to be mocked. He will even hand you the words that he would have you use to hurt him.
Patrick

United States

#266 Jul 30, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Again ..... He needs someone to kick him a bit. Post after post he complains of how horridly we will treat him, and then almost no one does. He is begging for it. So please someone fulfilled his needs, act as he accuses us of acting. He needs to be derided, he needs to be mocked. He will even hand you the words that he would have you use to hurt him.
"Reason Personified beliefs based on being too cheap to buy Christmas gifts for his children and too dumb to hide Easter Eggs "
CunningLinguist

Apopka, FL

#267 Jul 30, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
Guys, im not arrogant, it's a valid question.
I can easily disprove the universe being created from nothing because it's just matter, it's not this all powerful thing
God is all powerful and his therefore eternal.
There is no proof for that, but you can't disprove it unlike your pathetic big bang theory.
And you guys call me arrogant. Guess, what, any atheist would call me that no matter if i was arrogant or not. I want to hear it from a Christian calling me arrogant to believe so, because an atheist will call me all sorts of things, dumbf***, uneducated, that's also names i hear yet their not true, so why should i believe I'm arrogant then.
Not exactly...

We are aware of your courageous battle with science and scientific understanding.

Why does a devout Christian like yourself visit an atheist forum where clearly atheists have no interest in your faith whatever?

If you think you're going to convert someone you're wasting your time.

Ask your clergy for evidence that your God is the one true God in the way that clerics in competing religions (other than yours) cannot do.

Ask your clergy for evidence that proves your holy book a.k.a. Bible is true in a way that other religions cannot do with their holy book like Islam etc.

The only thing that church ever saved is itself.

"Peace on earth"?
Not as long is any religion exists.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#268 Jul 30, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Again ..... He needs someone to kick him a bit. Post after post he complains of how horridly we will treat him, and then almost no one does. He is begging for it. So please someone fulfilled his needs, act as he accuses us of acting. He needs to be derided, he needs to be mocked. He will even hand you the words that he would have you use to hurt him.
To me, it makes more sense to treat him with unfailing courtesy and then call him on it if he claims to be treated shabbily.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#269 Jul 31, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>To me, it makes more sense to treat him with unfailing courtesy and then call him on it if he claims to be treated shabbily.
He will simply keep repeating that he is being attacked. Yet I've not seen a single poster use the words that he claims as ours, and I'm not saying it won't happen. I suppose that as long as someone might post a response, his hope to be vilified remains untrampled.
CunningLinguist

Apopka, FL

#270 Jul 31, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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People tell me, that even if someone is being nasty and rude to you, doesn't mean you should be nasty back.
And where Am I acting like a spoiled child, am I one because I just have a different belief, opinion and view from you. Last time I heard people said everyone has the right to their views and should not be judged for that.
I'm also a very intelligent person. Just because I believe in something that you don't think is true, doesn't mean I don't have a education.
I doubt you've ever read your Bible cover to cover.

If slavery isn't wrong then nothing is wrong.

Think about this...

The West is endangered, primarily, by the religious fragmentation of the human community, by religious impediments to clear thinking, and by the religious willingness of millions to sacrifice the real possibility of happiness in this world for a fantasy of a world to come.

We are living in a world where untold millions of grown men and women can rationalize the violent sacrifice of their own children by recourse to fairy tales.

We are living in world where millions of Muslims believe that there is nothing better than to be killed in defense of Islam.

We are living in a world in which millions of American Christians hope to soon be raptured into the sky by Jesus so that they can safely enjoy the holy genocide that will inaugurate the end of human history.

We are living in a world in which a silly old priest, by merely giving voice to his religious inanities, could conceivably start a war with 1.4 billion Muslims who take their own inanities in deadly earnest. These are real dangers. And they are not dangers for which more “Biblical faith” is a remedy.
--Sam Harris

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