Our world came from nothing?

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#211 Jul 25, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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So, it was your so called god or did your god only come into existence in 1AD. If that been the case then your god did not create anything.
You can't have both ways.
My assertion had nothing to do with what a god did or did not do.

It compared a religion, Christianity, to atheism. with respect to murdering people.

I can't help it if you can't read, or cannot make an elementary distinction.

I only point out such statistics when I see atheists complaining about Christian atrocities.

Obviously, I enjoy making atheists look stupid.
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#212 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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My assertion had nothing to do with what a god did or did not do.
It compared a religion, Christianity, to atheism. with respect to murdering people.
I can't help it if you can't read, or cannot make an elementary distinction.
I only point out such statistics when I see atheists complaining about Christian atrocities.
Obviously, I enjoy making atheists look stupid.
So, you are saying your 'god' has nothing to do with your religion... interesting.
Anyway what are so called christians doing going around killing people isn't it supposed to be a religion of peace? Oh! that's right now how many people have you beaten up?

ps. The only person you are making look stupid here is yourself.
pps. Atheism is not a religion, just how many times do you have to be told?

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#213 Jul 25, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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So, you are saying your 'god' has nothing to do with your religion... interesting.
Anyway what are so called christians doing going around killing people isn't it supposed to be a religion of peace? Oh! that's right now how many people have you beaten up?
ps. The only person you are making look stupid here is yourself.
pps. Atheism is not a religion, just how many times do you have to be told?
I didn't say what god did or did not do, and I definitely did not say god has nothing to do with religion. God's role was not addressed at all in my post.

I compared killing arising from a religion, namely Christianity, to killing arising from atheism.

I also did not call atheism a religion.

I would like to take credit for you looking stupid right now, as you trot forth one straw man after another, but you did it spontaneously.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#214 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.
--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.
--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
Atheism has no ideology. Can an atheist commit outrages crimes against humanity, absolutely, and some have, but it's not because they are atheist.

A simple belief or non belief in god is much different than the ideologies and doctorine, that religion and politics hold. Atheism has neither.

Since: May 10

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#215 Jul 25, 2014
Cujo wrote:
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Atheism has no ideology. Can an atheist commit outrages crimes against humanity, absolutely, and some have, but it's not because they are atheist.
A simple belief or non belief in god is much different than the ideologies and doctorine, that religion and politics hold. Atheism has neither.
I see. Thanks, Cornhole.

I'll read this now with your enlightenment in mind - that it had NOTHING to do with atheism:

"From the late 1920s to the late 1930s, such organizations as the League of the Militant Godless ridiculed all religions and harassed believers. Anti-religious and atheistic propaganda was implemented into every portion of Soviet life: in schools, communist organizations such as the Young Pioneer Organization, and the media. Though Lenin originally introduced the Gregorian calendar to the Soviets, subsequent efforts to reorganise the week to improve worker productivity saw the introduction of the Soviet calendar, which had the side-effect that a "holiday will seldom fall on Sunday".

"Within about a year of the revolution, the state expropriated all church property, including the churches themselves, and in the period from 1922 to 1926, 28 Russian Orthodox bishops and more than 1,200 priests were killed (a much greater number was subjected to persecution). Most seminaries were closed, and publication of religious writing was banned. The Russian Orthodox Church, which had 54,000 parishes before World War I, was reduced to 500 by 1940. A meeting of the Antireligious Commission of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party that occurred on 23 May 1929..."
religionislies

London, UK

#216 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I see. Thanks, Cornhole.
I'll read this now with your enlightenment in mind - that it had NOTHING to do with atheism:
"From the late 1920s to the late 1930s, such organizations as the League of the Militant Godless ridiculed all religions and harassed believers. Anti-religious and atheistic propaganda was implemented into every portion of Soviet life: in schools, communist organizations such as the Young Pioneer Organization, and the media. Though Lenin originally introduced the Gregorian calendar to the Soviets, subsequent efforts to reorganise the week to improve worker productivity saw the introduction of the Soviet calendar, which had the side-effect that a "holiday will seldom fall on Sunday".
"Within about a year of the revolution, the state expropriated all church property, including the churches themselves, and in the period from 1922 to 1926, 28 Russian Orthodox bishops and more than 1,200 priests were killed (a much greater number was subjected to persecution). Most seminaries were closed, and publication of religious writing was banned. The Russian Orthodox Church, which had 54,000 parishes before World War I, was reduced to 500 by 1940. A meeting of the Antireligious Commission of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party that occurred on 23 May 1929..."
Proofless halfwit with no evidence for god and no evidence against Atheism.
religionislies

London, UK

#217 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I didn't say what god did or did not do, and I definitely did not say god has nothing to do with religion. God's role was not addressed at all in my post.
I compared killing arising from a religion, namely Christianity, to killing arising from atheism.
I also did not call atheism a religion.
I would like to take credit for you looking stupid right now, as you trot forth one straw man after another, but you did it spontaneously.
Religious liars have a mental illness where they believe that Atheism is a religion.

Atheism is a simple disbelief in god and nothing more.

Creationist cult members like buck are paid to lie and spam this forum by the Discovery Institute.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#218 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I see. Thanks, Cornhole.
I'll read this now with your enlightenment in mind - that it had NOTHING to do with atheism:
"From the late 1920s to the late 1930s, such organizations as the League of the Militant Godless ridiculed all religions and harassed believers. Anti-religious and atheistic propaganda was implemented into every portion of Soviet life: in schools, communist organizations such as the Young Pioneer Organization, and the media. Though Lenin originally introduced the Gregorian calendar to the Soviets, subsequent efforts to reorganise the week to improve worker productivity saw the introduction of the Soviet calendar, which had the side-effect that a "holiday will seldom fall on Sunday".
"Within about a year of the revolution, the state expropriated all church property, including the churches themselves, and in the period from 1922 to 1926, 28 Russian Orthodox bishops and more than 1,200 priests were killed (a much greater number was subjected to persecution). Most seminaries were closed, and publication of religious writing was banned. The Russian Orthodox Church, which had 54,000 parishes before World War I, was reduced to 500 by 1940. A meeting of the Antireligious Commission of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party that occurred on 23 May 1929..."
It still has nothing to do with atheism. No one has ever killed in the name of Atheism. An atheist lacks a belief in a deity. THAT'S IT! An atheist can be conservative, liberal, libertarian, anti-abortion, pro-abortion, pro-religion, anti-religion, etc. They just don't believe in God.

Atheists can form an organizations, and create their own ideologies based on their hatred for religion. They now represent that group, and they happen to be atheists.

I also don't think Hitler did what he did becasue he is Christian. He was a power hungry racist, who may have used some aspects of his religion to justify his reasoning.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#219 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I see. Thanks, Cornhole.
I'll read this now with your enlightenment in mind - that it had NOTHING to do with atheism:
"From the late 1920s to the late 1930s, such organizations as the League of the Militant Godless ridiculed all religions and harassed believers. Anti-religious and atheistic propaganda was implemented into every portion of Soviet life: in schools, communist organizations such as the Young Pioneer Organization, and the media. Though Lenin originally introduced the Gregorian calendar to the Soviets, subsequent efforts to reorganise the week to improve worker productivity saw the introduction of the Soviet calendar, which had the side-effect that a "holiday will seldom fall on Sunday".
"Within about a year of the revolution, the state expropriated all church property, including the churches themselves, and in the period from 1922 to 1926, 28 Russian Orthodox bishops and more than 1,200 priests were killed (a much greater number was subjected to persecution). Most seminaries were closed, and publication of religious writing was banned. The Russian Orthodox Church, which had 54,000 parishes before World War I, was reduced to 500 by 1940. A meeting of the Antireligious Commission of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party that occurred on 23 May 1929..."
It still has nothing to do with Atheism. No one has ever killed in the name of Atheism. An atheist lacks a belief in a deity. THAT'S IT! An atheist can be conservative, liberal, libertarian, anti-abortion, pro-abortion, pro-religion, anti-religion, etc. They just don't believe in God.

Atheists can form an organization, and create their own ideologies based on their like minded hatred for religion. They now represent that group, and they happen to be atheists.

I also don't think Hitler did what he did becasue he is Christian. He was a power hungry racist, who may have used some aspects of his religion to justify his reasoning.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#220 Jul 25, 2014
Oops, double post.

Since: May 10

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#221 Jul 25, 2014
Cujo wrote:
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It still has nothing to do with Atheism. No one has ever killed in the name of Atheism. An atheist lacks a belief in a deity. THAT'S IT! An atheist can be conservative, liberal, libertarian, anti-abortion, pro-abortion, pro-religion, anti-religion, etc. They just don't believe in God.
Atheists can form an organization, and create their own ideologies based on their like minded hatred for religion. They now represent that group, and they happen to be atheists.
I also don't think Hitler did what he did becasue he is Christian. He was a power hungry racist, who may have used some aspects of his religion to justify his reasoning.
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.

--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.

--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#222 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.
--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.
--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
Atheism is a simple disbelief in god you keep lying about and not a religion.

Talking out of your ass makes your cult look even more stupid than it already is proven to be.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#223 Jul 25, 2014
Nobody ever killed in the name of Atheism. fact.

Creationist cult members like buck cannot cope mentally with a post-religious society.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#224 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.
--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.
--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
I thought you don't believe in science? Why should we believe your "science" LMAO.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#225 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
My assertion had nothing to do with what a god did or did not do.
It compared a religion, Christianity, to atheism. with respect to murdering people.
I can't help it if you can't read, or cannot make an elementary distinction.
I only point out such statistics when I see atheists complaining about Christian atrocities.
Obviously, I enjoy making atheists look stupid.
Facts -

100% of bucks posts are about how he fails to understand science.

50% of his posts are him backtracking, running scared from atheists who point out his errors.

0% are about him showing any understanding of science or evolution.

We're all left wondering why religious idiots like you are so full of sh*t...

Since: May 10

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#226 Jul 25, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
Nobody ever killed in the name of Atheism. fact.
Creationist cult members like buck cannot cope mentally with a post-religious society.
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.

--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.

--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
Patrick

United States

#227 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.
--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.
--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
As Mark Twain popularized the quote most attributed to the Prime Minister of Great Britain, Benjamin Disraeli,“there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics.” The quote is meant to highlight the deceiving but persuasive power of numbers.

In the end make sure you’re suspicious of all data. Ask yourself the obvious questions:

- who did the primary research on this analysis?

- who paid them? Nobody does this stuff free. You’re either paid up front “sponsored research” or you’re paid on the back-end in terms of clients buying research reports.

- what motives might these people have had?

- who was in the sample set? how big was it? was it inclusive enough?

- and the important thing about data for me … I ingest it religiously. I use it as one source of figuring out my version of the truth. And then I triangulate. I look for more sources if I want a truer picture.

I always try to think to myself,“what would the opposing side of this data analysis use to argue its weaknesses?”

Statistics aren’t evil. They’re just a bit like the weather – hard to really predict.
And as they say about economists and weathermen – they’re the only two jobs you can keep while being wrong nearly 100% of the time "
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#228 Jul 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I didn't say what god did or did not do, and I definitely did not say god has nothing to do with religion. God's role was not addressed at all in my post.
I compared killing arising from a religion, namely Christianity, to killing arising from atheism.
I also did not call atheism a religion.
I would like to take credit for you looking stupid right now, as you trot forth one straw man after another, but you did it spontaneously.
When all else fails godbots turn to pigeon chess.

Since: May 10

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#229 Jul 25, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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When all else fails godbots turn to pigeon chess.
And when incompetent atheists are confronted with an uncomfortable proposition, they prefer to refute a proposition not offered.

You're in over your head with me.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#230 Jul 26, 2014
religionisillness wrote:
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Atheists are smart, intelligent and friendly. Its religious people that are obnoxious and arrogant, trying to find fault with hard working scientists.
Meanwhile you sing and talk to thin air and expect us all to lie down and listen to your mental illness.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves for harming the planet.
Even if you spend the next 1000 years saying sorry, it still would not be enough, to excuse your stupid religious lies.
I can agree you guys are smart and intellgent(in most ways). But friendly????

Do I have the right to believe what I want..... Yes

Do I have the right to tell other people about Jesus.... Yes.

I'm not mentally insane, or why am I not in a mental hospital right now. I'm a human like you, I believe in God, what's your problem now.

You guys call us F***tards. You call us mentally insane. You call us uneducated. You call us dumbF****. You say that we are idiots that have a mental illness. You call the Bible the Buybull. You are the ones swearing here.

You Atheists can be right about the Big bang and Evolution. But that doesn't mean you can call me a Religiotard and then say you are friendly.

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