Multiculturalism’s “evil twin”

Multiculturalism’s “evil twin”

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Hamilton, UK

#1 Sep 27, 2012
Quote: Today, Sir Salman described how multiculturalism’s “evil twin” was “moral relativism”, in which people accept actions from a “particular group for beliefs which you would condemn otherwise”. Unquote

Extremists in the Middle-East somoetimes challenge freedom of speech & expression.

Auburn, Australia

#2 Oct 12, 2012
And yet atheists insist on backing wahhabi arabs against everyone else.
You are all hypocrites

Lowell, MA

#3 Oct 13, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
And yet atheists insist on backing wahhabi arabs against everyone else.
You are all hypocrites
Don't think you'll find much love for islamic fundamentalists in the atheist threads. To us, islamic fundamentalists are as superstitious as christian fundamentalists, with the additional unlovable quality of being violent, even more misogynist than christians, and using the force of the state to enforce religious orthodoxy.

The US government (which is hardly the equivalent of atheists) sucks up to the house of Saud because they really run OPEC, and we need to play nice with them to get the oil, because while they are, at base, anti Israel, they are a moderating influence getting other Arab states to tone down the rhetoric, and because since the US government is intent on projecting military power in the Middle East, making the US military bases in Saudi Arabia critically important. The Saudis are American proxies, and do the bidding of Washington in cases where American influence would not work.

On top of that, during the recent republican administrations of the Bush presidents, pere et fils, one had to consider the tangled business dealings of the Bush family and the House of Saud. They were (are) very close and were partners in many business deals.

From a strictly realpolitik perspective, what other choice is there? As loathsome as the Sauds are, with their public executions, oppression of women, autocratic rule, etc., the people who oppose them are no field of buttercups. The opposition to the Sauds in Saudi Arabia is not a coalition of democracy loving moderates. They are even more fundamentalist islamists, including followers of Osama Bin Laden. They hate the US,(remember, OBL's big issue was the presence of US troops on islamic 'holy land') and would not act in our interests, and the human rights situation would, if anything, get worse, not better.

The world's economy is not particularly healthy right now, and is probably too fragile to withstand a disruption in the oil supply, which would accompany an upheaval in S.A. Sometimes, there really is no good choice, and you just have to hold your nose and go with the lesser of two evils

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