Noah's flood real

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#4367 Jul 23, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
"The ark was not a mono-hull galleon, it was an array of small flat-bottom pontoons roped together. Large modern river barges are also assembled from dozens of small barges chained together."
http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/faq.htm
And where in the bibull does it say:-

"And the lord said unto Noah build me many small flat-bottom pontoons and rope them together"

and the lies just keep on coming.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4368 Jul 23, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
And where in the bibull does it say:-
"And the lord said unto Noah build me many small flat-bottom pontoons and rope them together"
and the lies just keep on coming.
Yep.

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#4369 Jul 23, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>And where in the bibull does it say:-

"And the lord said unto Noah build me many small flat-bottom pontoons and rope them together"

and the lies just keep on coming.
BIBULL the great book on evolution!

B - bull crap
I - idiocy
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#4370 Jul 23, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
BIBULL the great book on evolution!
B - bull crap
I - idiocy
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
You are right that does sum up the bibull.

But you did not answer my question where in the bibull does it say:-

"And the lord said unto Noah build me many small flat-bottom pontoons and rope them together"

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#4371 Jul 23, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Here's a list of a few places that have their own version of a world wide flood.
Europe
Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
Roman
Scandinavian, German
Celtic, Welsh
Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
Turkey
Near East
Sumerian
Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
Persian, Zoroastrian
Africa
Cameroon
Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe?(southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
Asia
Vogul
Samoyed (north Siberia)
Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot)(north of Mongolia)
Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
Russian
Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
Tamil (southern India)
Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
China
Korea
Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)
its also more stories about the flood lol ...

Even if a person is atheist they would have the question the fact that islf thisbwas just a fairy tale then why does every nation tongue and race have story about the flood ?

More than likely all of our ancestors had to together at one time.

But even God himself spoke these people still not would acknowledge him... i mean there ancestors didn't care so why would they care ?

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#4372 Jul 23, 2013
leahisadoll wrote:
<quoted text>
its also more stories about the flood lol ...
Even if a person is atheist they would have the question the fact that islf thisbwas just a fairy tale then why does every nation tongue and race have story about the flood ?
More than likely all of our ancestors had to together at one time.
But even God himself spoke these people still not would acknowledge him... i mean there ancestors didn't care so why would they care ?
The bibull says that Noah and his family were the only survivors of the flood. If that were the case how could:-
Europe
Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
Roman
Scandinavian, German
Celtic, Welsh
Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
Turkey
Near East
Sumerian
Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
Persian, Zoroastrian
Africa
Cameroon
Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe?(southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
Asia
Vogul
Samoyed (north Siberia)
Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot)(north of Mongolia)
Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
Russian
Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
Tamil (southern India)
Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
China
Korea
Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)

have flood stories if the only survivors were Noah and his clan?

And anyway why do you even imagine they are even talking about the same flood? Good grief man here in Oz we can have floods at one end of the country and bushfires at the other and the next year the exact opposite.

There is no evidence of a global flood full stop end of story.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4373 Jul 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
BIBULL the great book on evolution!
B - bull crap
I - idiocy
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
Good! You are getting it-- your bible is crap.

Now: Is **Doctor** Francis Collins a christian or not?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4374 Jul 24, 2013
leahisadoll wrote:
<quoted text>
its also more stories about the flood lol ...
Even if a person is atheist they would have the question the fact that islf thisbwas just a fairy tale then why does every nation tongue and race have story about the flood ??
Not true-- many historical cultures who did **not** live near large bodies of water?

No flood story--- none.

Also many **desert** cultures have **no** flood story either.

The real correlation appears to be?

Living near large bodies of water--which occasionally **flood**.

Imagine that?

No god needed.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#4375 Jul 24, 2013
leahisadoll wrote:
<quoted text>
..But even God himself spoke these people still not would acknowledge him..
If a God or gods spoke for real, and not an auditory hallucination, then yes we would all believe in him. But as God (and gods) remains silent, the onus is on believers to provide proof that he exists.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#4376 Jul 24, 2013
.. and goes without saying you cannot prove or disprove a non-existent being.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Redding, CA

#4377 Jul 24, 2013
spudgun wrote:
.. and goes without saying you cannot prove or disprove a non-existent being.
How about a married bachelor?

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#4378 Jul 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>You are right that does sum up the bibull."
The book on evolution, yes it does.
I'm glad you finally see it.

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#4379 Jul 24, 2013
leahisadoll wrote:
<quoted text>its also more stories about the flood lol ...

Even if a person is atheist they would have the question the fact that islf thisbwas just a fairy tale then why does every nation tongue and race have story about the flood ?

More than likely all of our ancestors had to together at one time.

But even God himself spoke these people still not would acknowledge him... i mean there ancestors didn't care so why would they care ?
Those souls are lost for ever.
They turn a blind eye to all the evidence.

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#4380 Jul 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>The bibull says that Noah and his family were the only survivors of the flood. If that were the case how could:-
Europe
Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
Roman
Scandinavian, German
Celtic, Welsh
Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
Turkey
Near East
Sumerian
Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
Persian, Zoroastrian
Africa
Cameroon
Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe?(southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
Asia
Vogul
Samoyed (north Siberia)
Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot)(north of Mongolia)
Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
Russian
Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
Tamil (southern India)
Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
China
Korea
Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)

have flood stories if the only survivors were Noah and his clan?

And anyway why do you even imagine they are even talking about the same flood? Good grief man here in Oz we can have floods at one end of the country and bushfires at the other and the next year the exact opposite.

There is no evidence of a global flood full stop end of story.
Dense.

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#4381 Jul 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Good! You are getting it-- your bible is crap.

Now: Is **Doctor** Francis Collins a christian or not?
Try reading the post booby.

BIBULL the great book on evolution!

B - bull crap
I - idiocy
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4382 Jul 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
The book on evolution, yes it does.
I'm glad you finally see it.
You **still** haven't said if Doctor Collins is a real christian.

Why?

You seem quite willing to sit in your MIGHTY JUDGEMENT on everyone ELSE.

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#4383 Jul 24, 2013
Rapid Burial

Fossils all over the world show evidence of rapid burial. Many fossils, such as fossilized jellyfish,a show by the details of their soft, fleshy portionsb that they were buried rapidly, before they could decay.(Normally, dead animals and plants quickly decompose.) The presence of fossilized remains of many other animals, buried in mass graves and lying in twisted and contorted positions, suggests violent and rapid burials over large areas. These observations, plus the occurrence of compressed fossils and fossils that cut across two or more layers of sedimentary rock, are strong evidence that the sediments encasing these fossils were deposited rapidly—not over hundreds of millions of years. Furthermore, almost all sediments that formed today’s rocks were sorted by water. The worldwide fossil record is, therefore, evidence of rapid death and burial of animal and plant life by a worldwide, catastrophic flood. The fossil record is not evidence of slow change.[See "A Whale of a Tale" on page 133.]

Figure 7: Fossil of Fish Swallowing Fish. Burial and fossilization must have been quite rapid to have preserved a fish in the act of swallowing another fish. Thousands of such fossils have been found.

Figure 8: Fish in Long Fish. In the belly of the above 14-foot-long fish is a smaller fish, presumably the big fish’s breakfast. Because digestion is rapid, fossilization must have been even more so.

Figure 9: Fish in Curved Fish. The curved back shows that this fish died under stress.

Figure 10: Dragonfly Wing.

This delicate, 1 1/2-foot-long wing must have been buried rapidly and evenly to preserve its details. Imagine the size of the entire dragonfly!

a . Thousands of jellyfish, many bigger than a dinner plate, are found in at least seven different horizons of coarse-grained, abrasive sandstone in Wisconsin.[See James W. Hagadorn et al.,“Stranded on a Late Cambrian Shoreline: Medusae from Central Wisconsin,” Geology, Vol. 30, February 2002, pp. 147–150.]

Coarse grains slowly covering a jellyfish would allow atmospheric oxygen to migrate in and produce rapid decay. Burial in clay or mud would better shield an organism from decay. If coarse-grain sand buried these jellyfish in a storm, turbulence and abrasion by the sand grains would tear and destroy the jellyfish. To understand how thousands of jellyfish were gently collected and preserved in coarse-grained sand, see pages.

Charles Darwin recognized the problem of finding fossilized soft-bodied organisms, such as jellyfish. He wrote:

No organism wholly soft can be preserved. Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species, p. 330.

Again, a prediction of evolution is seen to be wrong.

b . Donald G. Mikulic et al.,“A Silurian Soft-Bodied Biota,” Science, Vol. 228, 10 May 1985, pp. 715–717.

u “... preconditions for the preservation of soft-bodied faunas: rapid burial of fossils in undisturbed sediment; deposition in an environment free from the usual agents of immediate destruction—primarily oxygen and other promoters of decay, and the full range of organisms, from bacteria to large scavengers, that quickly reduce most carcasses to oblivion in nearly all earthly environments; and minimal disruption by the later ravages of heat, pressure, fracturing, and erosion.... But the very conditions that promote preservation also decree that few organisms, if any, make their natural homes in such places.” Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life(New York: W. W. Norton & Co., 1989), pp. 61–62.

c . Presse Grayloise,“Very Like a Whale,” The Illustrated London News, 1856, p. 116.

d . Harold G. Coffin, Origin By Design (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Assn., 1983), pp. 30–40.

[From "In the Beginning" by Walt Brown]

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#4384 Jul 24, 2013
Once upon a time there was this goo
That had become a live (it's ALIVE!!)
And this most fragile life in the most hostile environment lived long enough to self replicate.(The first life ever also self replicated!) over and over again and along the way it mutated billions of times all to the good leaving all kinds of branches of life on the great tree if life along the way one plant got pissed at another plant so it mutated into a plant eating animal well that didn't sit to well with that plants brother so he mutated into a bigger animal to eat the plant eating animal that ate his brother the plant. This escalated fast and soon there were very large dinosaurs, now these dinosaurs knew that sooner or later a falling rock would kill them off so that said "hey let's mutate into birds and fly above the dust" so they did. Trouble is they mutated into chickens and that's where we stopped them because they taste too good. So man via KFC stopped evolution in its tracks.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#4385 Jul 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
Try reading the post booby.
BIBULL the great book on evolution!
B - bull crap
I - idiocy
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
I know, I know-- your bible is bullcrap. Good.

But.

WHY is it your god CANNOT FORGIVE, unless something is KILLED FIRST?

I mean-- your god is a BLOOD-GOD, dude!

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#4386 Jul 24, 2013

Evidence for a Global Flood

by Laurence D Smart B.Sc.Agr., Dip.Ed., Grad.Dip.Ed

Email: [email protected] m

Webpage: www.unmaskingevolution.com

[Free to print and distribute. Copy must be in full.]

In the past, scientists largely dismissed Noah's flood as a myth, or a local flood, as it was believed that there could not have been enough rainwater to cover the world as high as Mount Everest. Recent discoveries in plate tectonics and crustal physics have shown that a much flatter Earth could have easily been flooded, with the resultant volcanic and geologic activity altering the land surface. These details have demolished the main argument against a global flood, but the tag of "local flood" has remained because atheists do not want any evidence that supports the existence of an Almighty, Creator/God.



Here are over 100 evidences in support of a global flood, rather than a local one.

FROM LOGIC.........[12 reasons]

(1) For rain to fall for forty uninterrupted days on one localized area is currently close to impossible.

(2) A rainbow appeared for the first time after the flood, indicating a radical change in atmospheric conditions as a consequence of a cataclysmic event.

(3) The waters remained for over a year. This would not occur in a local flood.

(4) To be higher than the highest mountains, the flood could not have been local.

(5) To cover the mountains continually for 9 months, the flood could not have been local.

(6) The purpose of the flood was to destroy all human beings. This could only refer to a worldwide flood.

(7) If the flood was local, people living elsewhere in the world would have escaped.

(8) The enormous size of the ark (equivalent to the capacity of 500 railroad freight carriages) would hold much more than local species of animals.

(9) The purpose of the ark to "keep seed [species - NKJ] alive upon the face of the earth" is only rational if the flood was global.

(10) Noah and his family could have migrated to a locality away from the local area to be flooded. There would have been no need to spend 120 years building an ark.

(11) Many of the animals in the flooding area could have easily migrated to escape the deluge if the flood was local. There would have been no need to build an ark to provide them with a safe haven.

(12) If God made a promise based on a lie (ie. that the flood being local rather than global), then he can't be trusted to save us from our sins.

http://unmaskingevolution.com/18-flood.htm

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