Noah's flood real

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3972 May 31, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
He does not know pretty much 95% of reality....
... point of fact.
So face up to reality. You are without hope and perishing.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3973 May 31, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
He does not know pretty much 95% of reality....
... point of fact.
Yep, it looks like the only book it has read is the bibull.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3974 May 31, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
So face up to reality. You are without hope and perishing.
Your reading comprehension is abysmal.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3975 May 31, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
You are the one who asked.
So, what is "freewill"?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3976 May 31, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
I understand quite well. You are without hope and perishing.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3977 May 31, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand quite well. You are without hope and perishing.
I am without perishing??!

What is perishing and where do I buy it? Who makes it?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3978 May 31, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what is "freewill"?
Oh, I am sorry I forgot you are godbot so you don't any.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3979 May 31, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
I am without perishing??!
What is perishing and where do I buy it? Who makes it?
You will understand when you get to the eternal Hell fire.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3980 May 31, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I am sorry I forgot you are godbot so you don't any.
That is an interesting subject. God made EVERYONE exactly as He pleased, knowing the MAJORITY will burn in Hell forever.

Proverbs 1:7 (NKJV)
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3981 Jun 1, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an interesting subject. God made EVERYONE exactly as He pleased, knowing the MAJORITY will burn in Hell forever.
Proverbs 1:7 (NKJV)
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
So your 'god' made a whole pile damaged goods just he could enjoy watching burn in 'hell'.

It's good job he is not real.

Where did you get this nonsense?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3982 Jun 1, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
So your 'god' made a whole pile damaged goods just he could enjoy watching burn in 'hell'.
It's good job he is not real.
Where did you get this nonsense?
If you choose to call yourself "damaged goods" I won't dispute that, since God called you a 'fool'.

Proverbs 1:7 (NKJV)
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3983 Jun 1, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
So your 'god' made a whole pile damaged goods just he could enjoy watching burn in 'hell'.
It's good job he is not real.
Where did you get this nonsense?
Perhaps you are totaled and will end up in the dump.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3984 Jun 1, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
If you choose to call yourself "damaged goods" I won't dispute that, since God called you a 'fool'.
Proverbs 1:7 (NKJV)
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
if god made everything, he also made atheists. Leave gods work alone.
KJV

United States

#3985 Jun 1, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>So your 'god' made a whole pile damaged goods just he could enjoy watching burn in 'hell'.

It's good job he is not real.

Where did you get this nonsense?
No not at all.

God created Adam and Eve.
Adam brought sin and death into the world. Man has been getting sicker every year. Sin is the poison that is causing all of this.
KJV

United States

#3986 Jun 1, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, it looks like the only book it has read is the bibull.
Is that a book on evolution?

b - buy
I - into
b - bullshit
u - unprovable
l - ludicrous
l - lies

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3987 Jun 1, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
No not at all.
God created Adam and Eve.
Adam brought sin and death into the world. Man has been getting sicker every year. Sin is the poison that is causing all of this.[/QUOTE]

Ths is all religious lies with no proof. All theists are liars after all.
KJV

United States

#3988 Jun 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
No not at all.
God created Adam and Eve.
Adam brought sin and death into the world. Man has been getting sicker every year. Sin is the poison that is causing all of this. "

Ths is all religious lies with no proof. All theists are liars after all.
Again?

I have to show you again?

Write this down so you don't forget!

"The best evidence for design can be seen in the nature of the universe and how it came to be. The process of discovery continues, since one of the fundamental properties of the universe, dark energy (or the cosmological constant), was discovered late in the last century. New studies continue to add to our knowledge about the universe and its extremely unlikely makeup.

The Big Bang
The Big Bang theory states that the universe arose from a singularity of virtually no size, which gave rise to the dimensions of space and time, in addition to all matter and energy. At the beginning of the Big Bang, the four fundamental forces began to separate from each other. Early in its history (10^-36 to 10^-32 seconds), the universe underwent a period of short, but dramatic, hyper-inflationary expansion. The cause of this inflation is unknown, but was required for life to be possible in the universe.

Excess quarks
Quarks and antiquarks combined to annihilate each other. Originally, it was expected that the ratio of quarks and antiquarks to be exactly equal to one, since neither would be expected to have been produced in preference to the other. If the ratio were exactly equal to one, the universe would have consisted solely of energy - not very conducive to the existence of life. However, recent research showed that the charge ½parity violation could have resulted naturally given the three known masses of quark families.1 However, this just pushes fine tuning a level down to ask why quarks display the masses they have. Those masses must be fine tuned in order to achieve a universe that contains any matter at all.

Large, just right-sized universe
Even so, the universe is enormous compared to the size of our Solar System. Isn't the immense size of the universe evidence that humans are really insignificant, contradicting the idea that a God concerned with humanity created the universe? It turns out that the universe could not have been much smaller than it is in order for nuclear fusion to have occurred during the first 3 minutes after the Big Bang. Without this brief period of nucleosynthesis, the early universe would have consisted entirely of hydrogen.2 Likewise, the universe could not have been much larger than it is, or life would not have been possible. If the universe were just one part in 10^59 larger,3 the universe would have collapsed before life was possible. Since there are only 10^80 baryons in the universe, this means that an addition of just 10^21 baryons (about the mass of a grain of sand) would have made life impossible. The universe is exactly the size it must be for life to exist at all.

Early evolution of the universe
Cosmologists assume that the universe could have evolved in any of a number of ways, and that the process is entirely random. Based upon this assumption, nearly all possible universes would consist solely of thermal radiation (no matter). Of the tiny subset of universes that would contain matter, a small subset would be similar to ours. A very small subset of those would have originated through inflationary conditions. Therefore, universes that are conducive to life "are almost always created by fluctuations into these 'miraculous' states," according to atheist cosmologist Dr. L. Dyson.4

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_g...
KJV

United States

#3989 Jun 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
No not at all.
God created Adam and Eve.
Adam brought sin and death into the world. Man has been getting sicker every year. Sin is the poison that is causing all of this. "

Ths is all religious lies with no proof. All theists are liars after all.
Part 2

"Just right laws of physics
The laws of physics must have values very close to those observed or the universe does not work "well enough" to support life. What happens when we vary the constants? The strong nuclear force (which holds atoms together) has a value such that when the two hydrogen atoms fuse, 0.7% of the mass is converted into energy. If the value were 0.6% then a proton could not bond to a neutron, and the universe would consist only of hydrogen. If the value were 0.8%, then fusion would happen so readily that no hydrogen would have survived from the Big Bang. Other constants must be fine-tuned to an even more stringent degree. The cosmic microwave background varies by one part in 100,000. If this factor were slightly smaller, the universe would exist only as a collection of diffuse gas, since no stars or galaxies could ever form. If this factor were slightly larger, the universe would consist solely of large black holes. Likewise, the ratio of electrons to protons cannot vary by more than 1 part in 10^37 or else electromagnetic interactions would prevent chemical reactions. In addition, if the ratio of the electromagnetic force constant to the gravitational constant were greater by more than 1 part in 10^40, then electromagnetism would dominate gravity, preventing the formation of stars and galaxies. If the expansion rate of universe were 1 part in 10^55 less than what it is, then the universe would have already collapsed. The most recently discovered physical law, the cosmological constant or dark energy, is the closest to zero of all the physical constants. In fact, a change of only 1 part in 10^120 would completely negate the effect.

Universal probability bounds
"Unlikely things happen all the time." This is the mantra of the anti-design movement. However, there is an absolute physical limit for improbable events to happen in our universe. The universe contains only 10^80 baryons and has only been around for 13.7 billion years (10^18 sec). Since the smallest unit of time is Planck time (10^-45 sec),5 the lowest probability event that can ever happen in the history of the universe is:

1/1080 x 1/1018 x 1/1045 =1/10143"

KJV

United States

#3990 Jun 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
No not at all.
God created Adam and Eve.
Adam brought sin and death into the world. Man has been getting sicker every year. Sin is the poison that is causing all of this. "

Ths is all religious lies with no proof. All theists are liars after all.
Part 3

"So, although it would be possible that one or two constants might require unusual fine-tuning by chance, it would be virtually impossible that all of them would require such fine-tuning. Some physicists have indicated that any of a number of different physical laws would be compatible with our present universe. However, it is not just the current state of the universe that must be compatible with the physical laws. Even more stringent are the initial conditions of the universe, since even minor deviations would have completely disrupted the process. For example, adding a grain of sand to the weight of the universe now would have no effect. However, adding even this small amount of weight at the beginning of the universe would have resulted in its collapse early in its history.

What do cosmologists say?
Even though many atheists would like to dismiss such evidence of design, cosmologists know better, and have made statements such as the following, which reveal the depth of the problem for the atheistic worldview:

"This type of universe, however, seems to require a degree of fine-tuning of the initial conditions that is in apparent conflict with 'common wisdom'."
"Polarization is predicted. It's been detected and it's in line with theoretical predictions. We're stuck with this preposterous universe."
"In all of these worlds statistically miraculous (but not impossible) events would be necessary to assemble and preserve the fragile nuclei that would ordinarily be destroyed by the higher temperatures. However, although each of the corresponding histories is extremely unlikely, there are so many more of them than those that evolve without "miracles," that they would vastly dominate the livable universes that would be created by Poincare recurrences. We are forced to conclude that in a recurrent world like de Sitter space our universe would be extraordinarily unlikely"

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_g...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3991 Jun 1, 2013
*sigh*

Nothing but hate from the hategodbots...

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Atheism Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Atheism requires as much faith as religion? (Jul '09) 31 min Knowledge- 247,239
News Si Robertson, 'Duck Dynasty' Star, Says Atheist... 49 min Reason Personified 45
News Atheists Aren't the Problem, Christian Intolera... (Oct '14) 50 min JustASkeptic 12,437
News Why Atheism Will Replace Religion (Aug '12) 1 hr Reason Personified 14,712
News In America, atheists are still in the closet (Apr '12) 1 hr -Stray Dog 47,756
Proof of God for the Atheist 4 hr Uncle Sam 96
News Atheism, the Bible and sexual orientation 4 hr True Christian wi... 2
More from around the web