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Apr 27, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Your Jewsus used magic to make water into alcohol.

Your Jewsus used a magic spell to make that blind dude see again.

Your god used magic to clone Adam, into Steve--and then more magic to do a quicky-sex-change on Steve into Eve.

Yep. It's magic all the way through your silly BuyBull.
And what alcohol that was!

Why a bottle of that today would be worth millions!

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KJV wrote:
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And what alcohol that was!
Why a bottle of that today would be worth millions!
Yes but apparently you didn't.

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And what alcohol that was!
Why a bottle of that today would be worth millions!
So Jewsus was an alcoholic?

That explains ...

... a lot, actually.

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Good for you.
Did you have a clue what you were reading? Apparently you were clueless on the meaning of what you read.
I read it as it is written, and not as it is explained or as it is contorted to fit whatever the explainee wishes it to fit.

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One word. "Bible"
That book is not reliable, in fact it is forever changing depending on the political mood of the land. It will always be used as a tool to pacify and control the mentally slower members of a population

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Magic comes from satan and his demons
Magic comes from satan and his demons
Satan and his demons come from god.
God makes magic, god makes evil, god makes Satan, man makes gods.
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<quoted text>I read it as it is written, and not as it is explained or as it is contorted to fit whatever the explainee wishes it to fit.
One cannot read a 2000 year old book and expect to fully understand it because you just can't be expected to realize the way life was then and how word may have a whole different meaning then in today life.
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<quoted text>That book is not reliable, in fact it is forever changing depending on the political mood of the land. It will always be used as a tool to pacify and control the mentally slower members of a population
You just can't help yourself can you

You feel that you must spread lies.
Such is life with out a soul.
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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Magic comes from satan and his demons
Satan and his demons come from god.
God makes magic, god makes evil, god makes Satan, man makes gods.
"Reason Personified" wrote:

"They once exorcized me (I was 13), and they are forever having special prayers asking good to take me from the devil's hands."

Better try again this first one didn't work
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"Basic teachings and beliefs regarding the Flood
There are a number of basic teachings which we all accept regardless of the global or local scope of the Flood:
There existed a prophet named Noah.
Noah was commanded by the Lord to construct an ark.
Noah warned the people of the impending deluge.
The Flood was a literal event which did indeed occur.
Noah, his family and the animals he collected were saved from the deluge.
The Lord made a covenant with Noah and his descendants.
See also: Statements from Church leaders regarding the Flood of Noah
Belief in a global flood within the Church
Without a doubt, the flood is always treated as a global event as it is taught by Church leaders. This is not likely to ever change, since it is based directly upon a straightforward reading of the scriptures. The challenge comes to those who examine scientific data showing the diversity of plant and animal life, and the millennia required to achieve such diversity. The story of a global deluge then appears to be at complete odds with scientific data, which may encourage some not only to doubt the scriptures, but to even question the existence of God. Therefore, can one believe that the Flood of Noah may have been of limited scope, yet still accept what is taught in Church? This article examines the scriptures from the point of view of the prophets who wrote the story of the Flood in order to answer this question.
Although this criticism is directed at the LDS church, it is really directed at anyone who believes in a literal reading of the Old Testament. LDS leaders have in the past taught the concept of a global flood based upon such a reading. Although the idea of the global flood has been used as an example, Church leaders have never stated that a belief in a global flood is necessary for salvation.
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"Genesis 7:19-23 reads:
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
A similar reference to the destruction of all flesh from off the earth is found in Latter-day scripture in Moses 8:25-30. These passages have long been interpreted to mean that the entire globe was covered by water (although some have pointed out that the reader is left to wonder how "the mountains were covered" by water "fifteen cubits" deep — approximately 23 feet.) The primary reason for this global interpretation is the use of the word "earth." When modern readers see the word "earth," they envision the entire planetary sphere.
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Dr. Duane E. Jeffery elaborates:
A critical issue in the Flood story in the King James Bible has to do with translations of the Hebrew words eretz and adamah as meaning the entire “earth.” What do these terms actually mean? It is widely recognized that Hebrew is a wonderful language for poets, since virtually every word has multiple meanings. But that same characteristic makes it a horrible language for precision. As it turns out, eretz and adamah can indeed be a geographical reference akin to what we usually mean by “the earth.” But it is not at all clear that the ancients had the concept of a spherical planet that you and I do. Many scholars argue that the Bible writers thought in terms of a flat earth that was covered by a bowl-shaped firmament into which the windows of heaven were literally cut..." [1]
In fact, the concept of a spherical earth "did not appear in Jewish thought until the fourteenth or fifteenth century."[2] The word "earth," as used in the Bible, simply refers to solid ground or land, as opposed to water (see Genesis 1:10 — "God called the dry land Earth; and...the waters called he Seas...."). It is, of course, possible that earlier prophets had a more advanced view of the nature of the earth—this perspective could, however, have been lost to later centuries and scribes.
The concept of a global flood has become further reinforced within the Church by the fact that modern day prophets and apostles have taught that the flood washed away the earth's wickedness. For example, in 1880 Elder Orson Pratt stated that God "required our globe to be baptized by a flow of waters, and all of its sins were washed away, not one sin remaining."[3] Joseph Smith, Jr. taught that Noah was born to save seed of everything when the earth was washed of its wickedness by the flood.[4] Such wickedness could include man's wickedness, or it could imply a need for the earth itself to have a type of baptism.
Are Church members required to believe in a global flood?
The early prophets and apostles frequently taught their beliefs regarding a global flood using the scriptures. In modern times a belief in a global flood event continues to be widely-held within the Church. A search for the full term "global flood" on the official Church website ( www.lds.org ) produces only a single reference in the January 1998 Ensign, although there are a number of references in other articles to the Flood being of a global nature even up to the present time.(see: Statements by General Authorities related to the Flood) Typically, references to the Flood are presented in the context of teaching some Gospel principle. One recent article in the Ensign, written by BYU professor Donald W. Parry, clearly and directly indicates his opinion that the flood was global in nature."

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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Magic comes from satan and his demons
Satan and his demons come from god.
God makes magic, god makes evil, god makes Satan, man makes gods.
To quote the legendary Robert Waters (late of Pink Floyd):

"What god wants? God gets... god help us all"

Here's the whole thing:

ROGER WATERS
"What God Wants, Part I"

What God wants God gets God help us all
What God wants God gets
The kid in the corner looked at the priest
And fingered his pale blue Japanese guitar
The priest said
God wants goodness
God wants light
God wants mayhem
God wants a clean fight
What God wants God gets
Don't look so surprised
It's only dogma
The alien prophet cried
The beetle and the springbok
Took the bible from its hook
The monkey in the corner
Wrote the lesson in his book
What God wants God gets God help us all
God wants peace
God wants war
God wants famine
God wants chain stories
What God wants God gets
God wants sedition
God wants sex
God wants freedom
God wants semtex
What God wants God gets
Don't look so surprised
I'm only joking
The alien comic cried
The jackass and hyena
Took the feather from its book
The monkey in the corner
Wrote the joke down his book
What God wants God gets
God wants boarders
God wants crack
God wants rainfall
God wants wetbacks
What God wants God gets
God wants voodoo
God wants shrines
God wants law
God wants organised crime
God wants crusade
God wants jihad
God wants good
God wants bad
What God wants God gets

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One cannot read a 2000 year old book and expect to fully understand it because you just can't be expected to realize the way life was then and how word may have a whole different meaning then in today life.
Gotcha-- you need a Magic Bible Decoder Ring.

Available where Genuine Bibles are sold.

(brain damage from using Magic Bible Decoder Ring is not covered under the warranty. Void where prohibited. not everyone will become stupid enough for the Magic Bible Decoder Ring to function properly)
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Walt Brown credentials are impressive. He holds a Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Mechanical Engineering, is a West Point graduate and a National Science Foundation fellow, served as a tenured associate professor at the U.S. Air Force Academy and was chief of Science and Technology Studies at the Air War College.

According to Brown, the earth was an extremely different place before Noah’s flood. Oceans were much shallower and mountains much lower. He notes that it is no coincidence that more than 230 flood legends – with many common elements such as a sole surviving family in a boat – exist from every corner of the earth. In fact, the flood of Noah is the very device that sets Brown’s hydroplate theory in motion.

Atheists have scoffed at its mention and religionists have denied it’s truth, but here’s the scientific and archaeological evidence of “The Red Sea Crossing.”

Many skeptics ponder how the entire earth could have been covered in water, especially with many mountain ranges extending miles into the sky. Brown argues that pre-flood oceans contained half their present volume of water and that the Earth’s massive mountain ranges were not yet pushed up.

Brown contends that “water depth would be 9,000 feet everywhere” if the earth’s surface was completely smooth, easily covering the low-lying mountains that existed at the time of the flood.

Tapping into the scientific validity of the Bible, Brown lets the book of Genesis uncork the source of the floodwaters that reshaped the earth to its present appearance.

“In the 600th year of Noah’s life, on the 17th day of the second month – on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened,” reads Genesis 7:11-12.“And rain fell on the Earth 40 days and 40 nights.”

For those wondering where such torrents of water would originate, Brown also has students examine the beginning of the Bible’s first book, which specifies that underground waters were set in place on the second day of Creation.

“And God said,‘Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water,’” states Genesis 1:6-7.“So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it.”

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Gotcha-- you need a Magic Bible Decoder Ring™.

Available where Genuine Bibles™ are sold.

(brain damage from using Magic Bible Decoder Ring™ is not covered under the warranty. Void where prohibited. not everyone will become stupid enough for the Magic Bible Decoder Ring™ to function properly)
Nope read the post you Dolt!

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KJV wrote:
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You just can't help yourself can you
You feel that you must spread lies.
Such is life with out a soul.
All know how accurate the bibull is:-
24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?

Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?

Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
No (Joshua 15:63)

26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
Hell (Luke 3:23)

27. Jesus descended from which son of David?

Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke3:31)

28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?

Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
Neri (Luke 3:27)

29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?

Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.

30. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:8)
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?

Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)

32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?

Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)

33. Who was the father of Shelah?

Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)

34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?

Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
No (John 1:19-21)

35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?

Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)

36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?

One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.

37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?

By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)

38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?

By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)

39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?

Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death.

40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?

Yes (Mark 6:8)
No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)

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KJV wrote:
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One cannot read a 2000 year old book and expect to fully understand it because you just can't be expected to realize the way life was then and how word may have a whole different meaning then in today life.
And you have the magic decoder ring.

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KJV wrote:
Walt Brown credentials are impressive.
So what?

Anyone can suffer a massive brain-damage event.

Clearly, in Brown's case? The event was when he "concluded" that Noah's flood was real.

That is a clear indication of insanity.

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KJV wrote:
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Nope read the post you Dolt!
No.

I have already studied Geology-- I spent 17 years in the Oil Patch, studying (indirectly) oil geology.

One thing I learned for sure-- the earth is billions of years old.

And the flood >>never<< happened. Ever.

So I have no need to be lied to yet again, by some insane moron with a BOOK to sell to stupid people.

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