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#3513 Apr 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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It wasn't, you know.
Well, not according to Langoliers.
"Was there a global flood?
No. The flood of Noah was a Euphrates River flood in southern Sumer similar to the flood of 1954 in southern Iraq. The "earth" in Genesis 7:17-18 refers to the ground/land in the flooded region, not the entire planet."
That's what the man posted.
Perhaps you should have words with him?
Or maybe he needs to have words with you?
According to the bible it was deluge(flood).. the people back then lauhed at Noah and his family because it never rained.

(genesis 6:17)“And as for me, here I am bringing the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens. Everything that is in the earth will expire".
The water that came down came from the thermosphere. As you read Genesis it says the God opened the heavens. When the earth became exposed all water and the thermosphere came down because the water cooled and fell. This and debris from space would have also have fell.

if you want to understand the bible it is better to let scripture interpret scripture, Otherwise you get confusion and then division.
The bible is very complex,so reading it once will not get understanding it. many of it uses symbolism,literal,metaphors and allegories and other literary terms to hel the reader understand it.
the flood is mention several times in the bible several times. it never mentions as the euphrates river.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3514 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Making rules for God again?
As all gods are man made I can make up any rules I like for them.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3515 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
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The whole earth was covered with the Flood waters, and the world that then existed was destroyed by the very waters out of which the earth had originally emerged at God's command (Genesis 1:9; 2 Peter 3:5,6). But where did those waters go after the flood?
There are a number of Scripture passages that identify the flood waters with the present-day seas (Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11 note “waves”). If the waters are still here, why are the highest mountains not still covered with water, as they were in Noah's day? Psalm 104 suggests an answer. After the waters covered the mountains (verse 6), God rebuked them and they fled (verse 7); the mountains rose, the valleys sank down (verse 8) and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the earth (verse 9)[1]. They are the same waters!
Isaiah gives this same statement that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth (Isaiah 54:9). Clearly, what the Bible is telling us is that God acted to alter the earth's topography. New continental landmasses bearing new mountain chains of folded rock strata were uplifted from below the globe-encircling waters that had eroded and leveled the pre-Flood topography, while large deep ocean basin were formed to receive and accommodate the Flood waters that then drained off the emerging continents.
That is why the oceans are so deep, and why there are folded mountain ranges. Indeed, if the entire earth's surface were leveled by smoothing out the topography of not only the land surface but also the rock surface on the ocean floor, the waters of the ocean would cover the earth's surface to a depth of 1.7 miles (2.7 kilometers). We need to remember that nearly 70 percent of the earth's surface is still covered by water. Quite clearly, then, the waters of Noah's Flood are in today's ocean basins.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-flo...
I never knew the bibull was peer reviewed.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3516 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-b...
"Long before the discovery of the scablands, geologists dismissed the role of catastrophic floods in interpreting European geology. By the end of the 19th century such ideas not only were out of fashion but were geological heresy. When J Harlen Bretz uncovered evidence of giant floods in eastern Washington in the 1920s, it took most of the 20th century for other geologists to believe him. Geologists had so thoroughly vilified the concept of great floods that they could not believe it when somebody actually found evidence of one.
Bretz was a classic field geologist and a controversial figure throughout his career. In 1925 he presented the story of the region’s giant floods, seeing what others at first could not—and then would not—see. He spent his lifetime piecing together the story of how a raging wall of water hundreds of feet high roared across eastern Washington, carving deep channels before cascading down the Columbia River Gorge as a wall of water high enough to turn Oregon’s Willamette Valley into a vast backwater lake.
Bretz found exotic granite boulders perched on basalt cliffs hundreds of feet above the highest recorded river level. In the scablands, a desolate region stripped of soil, he came across dry waterfalls and potholes hundreds of feet above the modern river. Gigantic gravel bars deposited within dry valleys implied deep, fast-flowing water. Streamlined hills rose like islands, extending more than 100 feet above the scoured-out channelways.
He realized the chaotic landscape had been carved by an enormous flood that chewed deep channels through hundreds of feet of solid basalt. The ancient flood deposited an enormous delta around Portland, Oregon, backing up flow into the Willamette Valley. The waters, he eventually realized, could have come from catastrophic drainage of Lake Missoula, an ancient, glacier-dammed lake in western Montana.
Bretz was ridiculed until 1940, when geologist Joe Pardee described giant ripple marks on the bed of Lake Missoula. The 50-foot-high ripples, he said, were formed by fast-flowing currents and not by the sluggish bottom water of a lake. Only sudden failure of the glacial dam could have released the 2,000-foot-deep lake. The catastrophic release of 600 cubic miles of water through a narrow gap would sweep away everything in its path. In 1979, when Bretz was 97 years old, the Geological Society of America awarded him its highest honor, the Penrose Medal."
And what has that got to do with a global flood???

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3517 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Pretty sad all that reading and zero understanding.
Proof of your god not being real:

No self-respecting god would permit such as YOU to represent it's good name.

None.

Proving to 100% that you are NOT representing ANY god.

At all.

Too Easy--- your god isn't real, because YOU are an ASS.

Simple.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3518 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Making rules for God again?
Yes... yes you are.

So what? Your god >>only<< exists in your depraved imagination.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3519 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Simple you tried changing the subject and said let me know when I come up with an answer. It was not what I was talking about. You clearly did not want to continue with what I was talking about. That's why it looked as if you were throwing in the towel.
Proof of your god not being real:

No self-respecting god would permit such as YOU to represent it's good name.

None.

Proving to 100% that you are NOT representing ANY god.

At all.

Too Easy--- your god isn't real, because YOU are an ASS.

Simple.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3520 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Buybull is that a book on evolution?
Proof of your god not being real:

No self-respecting god would permit such as YOU to represent it's good name.

None.

Proving to 100% that you are NOT representing ANY god.

At all.

Too Easy--- your god isn't real, because YOU are an ASS.

Simple.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3521 Apr 25, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
if you want to understand the bible it is better to let scripture interpret scripture, Otherwise you get confusion and then division.
Riiiight... you have to use your Magic Bible Decoder Ring™...

... available from fine Bible Stores everywhere.

(brain damage from over use of Magic Bible Decoder Ring™ is not covered under the warranty.)
Lincoln

United States

#3522 Apr 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof of your god not being real:
No self-respecting god would permit such as YOU to represent it's good name.
None.
Proving to 100% that you are NOT representing ANY god.
At all.
Too Easy--- your god isn't real, because YOU are an ASS.
Simple.
"because YOU are an ASS." is an example of atheist logic when confronted with disagreement.

American voters reject an atheist for President :-)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3523 Apr 25, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Making rules for God again?
Making up god again?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3524 Apr 25, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"because YOU are an ASS." is an example of atheist logic when confronted with disagreement.
American voters reject an atheist for President :-)
Coming from the defeated theist troll with no proof of god, who doesn't know when to shut the f*ck up.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3525 Apr 25, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the bible it was deluge(flood).. the people back then lauhed at Noah and his family because it never rained.
(genesis 6:17)“And as for me, here I am bringing the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens. Everything that is in the earth will expire".
The water that came down came from the thermosphere. As you read Genesis it says the God opened the heavens. When the earth became exposed all water and the thermosphere came down because the water cooled and fell. This and debris from space would have also have fell.
if you want to understand the bible it is better to let scripture interpret scripture, Otherwise you get confusion and then division.
The bible is very complex,so reading it once will not get understanding it. many of it uses symbolism,literal,metaphors and allegories and other literary terms to hel the reader understand it.
the flood is mention several times in the bible several times. it never mentions as the euphrates river.
Equivalent to any fiction novel on the shelf. Actually most fiction novels are better.

You can't expect atheists to respect your hallucinations until you prove them.
Lincoln

United States

#3526 Apr 26, 2013
Cut down on your caffein intake,
maybe switch to decaf.
Relax and take up a new hobby?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3527 Apr 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Riiiight... you have to use your Magic Bible Decoder Ring™...
... available from fine Bible Stores everywhere.
(brain damage from over use of Magic Bible Decoder Ring™ is not covered under the warranty.)
Magic comes from satan and his demons
duet 18:10,11"There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead"

The bible uses a lot of hyperboles,expressions,allegor ys,metaphors,similies,aliterat ions etc simply because thats how they wrote back then. The bible was translted from, anient aramic hebrew and greek to english.

Many words in that we speak in English did not exist in those languages.

For example Luke 21:25, "there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation,26while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken"

Obviously The sun can never be darkened,and neither can the moon and the stars. Those things represent the organizations that people look up to today. It saying that after the great tribulation the scientist or earthy organizations will not have answer for things that will occur. The roaring sea represents people in upheaval because seas cannot roar, and the heavens that it mentions represent goverments because they too are held up high.

When things happen people go the goverments,their kings,presidents,scientist,rel igion but its saying they will not have answer.

The term sun moon and stars and the heavens in the bible can be literal or symbolic.

" genesis 37:9 "After that he had still another dream, and he related it to his brothers and said:“Here I have had a dream once more, and here the sun and the moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me"

That account was about josephs dream, offcourse sun,stars and moon cannot literally bow down to him so he must be referring political or organzation that were held up high.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3528 Apr 26, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
Magic comes from satan and his demons... and your god.
Your Jewsus used magic to make water into alcohol.

Your Jewsus used a magic spell to make that blind dude see again.

Your god used magic to clone Adam, into Steve--and then more magic to do a quicky-sex-change on Steve into Eve.

Yep. It's magic all the way through your silly BuyBull.
LJV

United States

#3529 Apr 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Your Jewsus used magic to make water into alcohol.

Your Jewsus used a magic spell to make that blind dude see again.

Your god used magic to clone Adam, into Steve--and then more magic to do a quicky-sex-change on Steve into Eve.

Yep. It's magic all the way through your silly BuyBull.
Buybull is that a book on your life?
LJV

United States

#3530 Apr 26, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Making up god again?
He's watching you.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#3531 Apr 26, 2013
LJV wrote:
<quoted text>
He's watching you.

Since: Nov 12

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#3532 Apr 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your Jewsus used magic to make water into alcohol.
Your Jewsus used a magic spell to make that blind dude see again.
Your god used magic to clone Adam, into Steve--and then more magic to do a quicky-sex-change on Steve into Eve.
Yep. It's magic all the way through your silly BuyBull.
thats was not magic. He was the son of God and he was with his father when he created men..
The word human means of the earth. And humans are made of the same minerals thatbthe earth has...

The bone from adam that made eve was a rib. The rib iis the only bone in the human body that grow back .

Its sad that people feel this way, but this just fulfills bible prophecy.

The apostle pual noted that the last days would be like the days of noah.. Women marrying ,men marrying,eating and drinking focus onntheir daily life not paying any attention and they took no note .

All the prohphecies in the bible have happened except 3.

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