Noah's flood real

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3416 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Apparently you did not do Geography at school. Have you ever heard of Mt Everest (29,029 ft) it's millions of years old therefore the water was 29,029 ft deep or didn't you read your bibull?"
Apparently you don't know the Bible on this subject. Feel free to study it and get back to me once you've become educated.
You ignored the other points--which refuted you, to 100% certainty.

And even this one? You are incapable of refuting the 27,000 feet of water requirement.

You did not even try.

It is >>YOUR<< ugly bible. YOU read it.

In any case?

The above is NOT proof of your terrorist-god. Not even a little bit.

Your god is still myth.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3417 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said it did bobby
Actually? You were headed there-- I know the Christian Apologizer™ non-arguments you are using already.

They are bankrupt.

And you STILL cannot learn.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3420 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said it did bobby
Obviously this was TOO MUCH for you-- I see you ignored it
KJV wrote:
1) Wrong
Prove it-- show this ... ahem "evidence" of a >>global<< flood, from a WELL RESPECTED university, such as Harvard or The University of California. Your Lying For Jewsus institutions are not respected...
KJV wrote:
2) "27,000 feet of water. " LOL. Idiot
No, that is the correct value needed to cover all the mountains-- as your bible claimed happened.

But you have no answer, so you scoff instead. Typical.
KJV wrote:
3) the oceans
Nope-- if the WHOLE WORLD was flooded? And it "went to the oceans" then?

WE WOULD STILL BE FLOODED... sheesh, you just don't get it...

All that excess water had to go SOMEWHERE-- it simply did not dry up into the air....!
KJV wrote:
4) 99% of the water came from the fountains of the deep.
No such thing. Fail.
KJV wrote:
5) God helped.
Magic. Gotcha. Why didn't god just use his MAGIC to KILL ALL THE BAD PEOPLE? And avoid all this flooding mess...???

Hmmmmmm? Your god is ...

.... kinda stupid...
KJV wrote:
6) they walked
What? Across ... the OCEANS?

You are seriously stupid if you think that...!
KJV wrote:
7) he followed Gods command and broke no laws.
So he was perfect? Wow... that kinda RUINS your whole "we are all sinners", then.... DON'T IT?

You just don't think this through very well....!

But we already noted your god is stupid.
KJV wrote:
8) the family was expert boat builders.
Lie. There is nothing in the bible that says that.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#3428 Apr 24, 2013
Don't bother, these atheists are too lazy to look in the Bible for answers. They'll continue blabbering " God doesn't exist( With no evidence) God's not real, Religion is so DUMB!!

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3429 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Apparently you did not do Geography at school. Have you ever heard of Mt Everest (29,029 ft) it's millions of years old therefore the water was 29,029 ft deep or didn't you read your bibull?"
Apparently you don't know the Bible on this subject. Feel free to study it and get back to me once you've become educated.
So, you can't or wont answer any of my questions. If you were to you would realize the whole flood story is a myth and you would have to call into question the whole of the bibull.

What makes you think you are right in the first place?

BTW I have read the bibull that is why I am an atheist.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3430 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what I'll tell you where you can find the answers. Look in the Bible.
Why don't you try reading a real textbook?

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3431 Apr 24, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
Don't bother, these atheists are too lazy to look in the Bible for answers. They'll continue blabbering " God doesn't exist( With no evidence) God's not real, Religion is so DUMB!!
Well at least you got part of your post right:-
" God doesn't exist( With no evidence) God's not real, Religion is so DUMB!!

But an atheist would have said:-

"God doesn't exist (Without evidence), God is not real, Religion is DUMB!!"

Please note the changes in punctuation and grammar.

Perhaps you should have spent less time reading the bibull because you obviously did not study it and more time doing school work.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3432 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
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No word games Doc. Look at a 3D object in a 2D world. It can't be seen or even guessed at as to what it might even be like.
Clearly you have no experience with this type of thing. In fact, it is easy to present a 3D object to a 2D observer: as a sequence of cross-sections. Think of CT scans.
Consider Time as the 4th D. What would or could a 5D object be like?
I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept.
I would represent the 5D object as 4D cross-sections. No problem.
3D is not a meaning less concept in a 2D world it's just not of that Dimension.
Good enough. But irrelevant to the discussion.
And it can never exist in that world. Just as 2D can't exist in a 1D world or Universe the same is true with a 5th D object in a 4th D universe.
My question is, what if anything was there before the 4th Dimension existed.
Again, this is a meaningless question. Time is *one of the dimensions*. So your question is exactly like asking what is north of the north pole. Latitude is one of the dimensions on earth. So is latitude. There is a third dimension (height). But it is still meaningless to ask what is north of the north pole.
You should realize the answer has to be
"We don't know". Claiming nothing is just a guess. At this time we don't know if anything ever did or does exist in the 5th Dimension. One thing it's not is meaningless.
Your question shows you don't understand the relevant material here. Even if there is a 5th dimension, the question of what is 'before time' is *still* meaningless. In fact, every point of that 5th dimension would have a time coordinate, just like every point of space has a latitude and longitude (and a radius).

yes, these are easy issues and you are not understanding them.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3433 Apr 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Word salad, devoid of meaning. Again.
The above is NOT proof of your terrorist-god. Not even a little bit.
Your god is still myth.
it isn't even correct mathematically.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3434 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
God did do it.
Prove it--- what? You have absolutely NO proof of your ugly little terrorist-god?

I guess that means you are lying.

Again.

Pity.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3435 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Not lying troll.
Not a lying >>troll<<, no-- but lying just the same.

Your ugly little website is just as dishonest as you.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3436 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
If this is to painful feel free to leave.
Atheist Forum.

I am properly here-- by invitation in fact.

But you?

You are not even REGISTERED! You are the interloper.

And you are seriously unwanted too.

But I expect you experience that last bit...

... rather a lot.

I suspect you are equally unwanted at your pathetic home.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3437 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Never claimed it was proof bobby.
Then? Why are you here?

<laughing my azz off at you>

You are seriously effed up, little liar.

Is it because nobody even likes you--at all?

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3438 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"You are incapable of refuting the 27,000 feet of water requirement. "
bobby, God did not need 27,000 feet of water. He just needed a couple of feet and then let the sewers all back up.
A couple of feet would not have risen past Florida's boundaries.

Such that 70% of the land would still be dry.

Your bible clearly states the mountains were covered with water.

So you >>do<< need at least 27,000 feet of water...

.... why do you lie?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3439 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not bankrupt bobby.
Oh, but you ARE bankrupt!

So is your ugly little common-terrorist of a god.

Bankrupt!

BANKRUPT!

That describes YOU, perfectly!

And your little god, too!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3440 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what I'll tell you where you can find the answers. Look in the Bible.
I did: It was full of lies, so I stopped.

What else you got? The bible has long since been proven false.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3441 Apr 24, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
Don't bother, these atheists are too lazy to look in the Bible for answers. They'll continue blabbering " God doesn't exist( With no evidence) God's not real, Religion is so DUMB!!
I do not need to prove god does NOT exist.

All I need to do? Is prove YOUR god isn't real.

Which I have, on numerous occasions.

The #1 proof your ugly little terrorist-god isn't real?

IS YOU!

No god worthy of the name, would suffer such as YOU-- the hate-filled little bigot that you are-- would suffer such as YOU to be it's spokes-person.

That?

That proves to 100% certainty that your god is just a delusion.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3442 Apr 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
it isn't even correct mathematically.
I only skipped through it, to quickly realize it was essentially gibberish he'd cobbled from some Liar For Jewsus website.

Kinda pathetic, really-- KJV still has not demonstrated an ability to process new information.

To learn, in other words.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3443 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
No word games Doc. Look at a 3D object in a 2D world. It can't be seen or even guessed at as to what it might even be like. Consider Time as the 4th D. What would or could a 5D object be like?
I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept.
3D is not a meaning less concept in a 2D world it's just not of that Dimension.
And it can never exist in that world. Just as 2D can't exist in a 1D world or Universe the same is true with a 5th D object in a 4th D universe.
My question is, what if anything was there before the 4th Dimension existed.
You should realize the answer has to be
"We don't know". Claiming nothing is just a guess. At this time we don't know if anything ever did or does exist in the 5th Dimension. One thing it's not is meaningless.
No need to even go to 5D to show our ignorance. We do not know if time can be extended infinitely into the past. As I have pointed out several times, there are 3 prevailing models: 1) time started at the Big Bang, 2) There was a previous contracting universe with a Big Bounce (time is then infinite into the past), 3) There is a multiverse with many small 'universes' such as ours.

In the first scenario (the Big Bang), it is simply meaningless to talk about 'before the Big Bang'. Time started at the Big Bang and this four dimensional manifold of spacetime is all there is.

In the second scenario (Big Bounce), spacetime is still a four dimensional structure, but time is extended infinitely into the past. Again, that four dimensional structure is 'all there is'.

In the third scenario (multiverse), the multiverse typically is much more than 5 dimensional. Typically it is 11 or 26 dimensional, depending on the particulars of the model. Again, in these models, time can be extended infinitely into the past. Often, universes are described as 'branes' inside the multiverse.

It should be pointed out that in *all* of these, the concept of 'before time' is meaningless, either because time cannot be extended before the universe or because time is infinite into the past. Also, in all of these, the notion of a 'cause' for the entire structure is meaningless since causality requires time. Now, in the second and third scenario, it is possible for our universe to be caused, but not the entire multiverse or dual universe.

Finally, working with higher dimensional structures isn't all that difficult and a lot of intuition can even be obtained by looking at lower dimensional analogies. Why you think 5D structures havn't been considered is beyond me (look up Kazula-Klein models). In fact, a precursor to some of our modern ideas of particle physics used a curved 5D structure to model electro-magnetism.
KJV

United States

#3448 Apr 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly you have no experience with this type of thing. In fact, it is easy to present a 3D object to a 2D observer: as a sequence of cross-sections. Think of CT scans.

[QUOTE]Consider Time as the 4th D. What would or could a 5D object be like?
I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept."

I would represent the 5D object as 4D cross-sections. No problem.

[QUOTE]3D is not a meaning less concept in a 2D world it's just not of that Dimension."

Good enough. But irrelevant to the discussion.

[QUOTE]And it can never exist in that world. Just as 2D can't exist in a 1D world or Universe the same is true with a 5th D object in a 4th D universe.
My question is, what if anything was there before the 4th Dimension existed."

Again, this is a meaningless question. Time is *one of the dimensions*. So your question is exactly like asking what is north of the north pole. Latitude is one of the dimensions on earth. So is latitude. There is a third dimension (height). But it is still meaningless to ask what is north of the north pole.

[QUOTE]You should realize the answer has to be
"We don't know". Claiming nothing is just a guess. At this time we don't know if anything ever did or does exist in the 5th Dimension. One thing it's not is meaningless.
"

Your question shows you don't understand the relevant material here. Even if there is a 5th dimension, the question of what is 'before time' is *still* meaningless. In fact, every point of that 5th dimension would have a time coordinate, just like every point of space has a latitude and longitude (and a radius).

yes, these are easy issues and you are not understanding them.
"Your question shows you don't understand the relevant material here. Even if there is a 5th dimension, the question of what is 'before time' is *still* meaningless"

Clearly you're not grasping 2D.

Nothing in our universe is true 2D excepted a Mathematical line/plane Zero thickness Means it doesn't exist at all in a 3D universe. Nothing more then a myth really.

I changed the wording of my question to fall into your parameter of a non-meaningless question (Doc's little word games).

My question is "when time did not exist was there anything?"

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