Noah's flood real
KJV

United States

#3395 Apr 23, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So hell is actually water? I'd guess it was boiling and all the people, animals, fish and vegetation, from the sea and land were cooked.
Result: Plenty of food. So it was almost like manna from flood?
Nope! Rather stupid really.

"The whole earth was covered with the Flood waters, and the world that then existed was destroyed by the very waters out of which the earth had originally emerged at God's command (Genesis 1:9; 2 Peter 3:5,6). But where did those waters go after the flood?

There are a number of Scripture passages that identify the flood waters with the present-day seas (Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11 note “waves”). If the waters are still here, why are the highest mountains not still covered with water, as they were in Noah's day? Psalm 104 suggests an answer. After the waters covered the mountains (verse 6), God rebuked them and they fled (verse 7); the mountains rose, the valleys sank down (verse 8) and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the earth (verse 9)[1]. They are the same waters!

Isaiah gives this same statement that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth (Isaiah 54:9). Clearly, what the Bible is telling us is that God acted to alter the earth's topography. New continental landmasses bearing new mountain chains of folded rock strata were uplifted from below the globe-encircling waters that had eroded and leveled the pre-Flood topography, while large deep ocean basin were formed to receive and accommodate the Flood waters that then drained off the emerging continents.

That is why the oceans are so deep, and why there are folded mountain ranges. Indeed, if the entire earth's surface were leveled by smoothing out the topography of not only the land surface but also the rock surface on the ocean floor, the waters of the ocean would cover the earth's surface to a depth of 1.7 miles (2.7 kilometers). We need to remember that nearly 70 percent of the earth's surface is still covered by water. Quite clearly, then, the waters of Noah's Flood are in today's ocean basins."

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-flo...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#3396 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope! Rather stupid really.
"The whole earth was covered with the Flood waters, and the world that then existed was destroyed by the very waters out of which the earth had originally emerged at God's command (Genesis 1:9; 2 Peter 3:5,6). But where did those waters go after the flood?
There are a number of Scripture passages that identify the flood waters with the present-day seas (Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11 note “waves”). If the waters are still here, why are the highest mountains not still covered with water, as they were in Noah's day? Psalm 104 suggests an answer. After the waters covered the mountains (verse 6), God rebuked them and they fled (verse 7); the mountains rose, the valleys sank down (verse 8) and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the earth (verse 9)[1]. They are the same waters!
Isaiah gives this same statement that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth (Isaiah 54:9). Clearly, what the Bible is telling us is that God acted to alter the earth's topography. New continental landmasses bearing new mountain chains of folded rock strata were uplifted from below the globe-encircling waters that had eroded and leveled the pre-Flood topography, while large deep ocean basin were formed to receive and accommodate the Flood waters that then drained off the emerging continents.
That is why the oceans are so deep, and why there are folded mountain ranges. Indeed, if the entire earth's surface were leveled by smoothing out the topography of not only the land surface but also the rock surface on the ocean floor, the waters of the ocean would cover the earth's surface to a depth of 1.7 miles (2.7 kilometers). We need to remember that nearly 70 percent of the earth's surface is still covered by water. Quite clearly, then, the waters of Noah's Flood are in today's ocean basins."
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-flo...
Not any more stupid than your postings, in fact I'd bet they are much less stupid. Christain apologetic websites are useless, when it comes to a search for truth.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3397 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
the zipville analogy!
Like in nothing existed when there was no time.
You seem to think that 'nothing' is a thing. Once again, the phrase 'when there was no time' is self-contradictory.
KJV

United States

#3398 Apr 23, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Not any more stupid than your postings, in fact I'd bet they are much less stupid. Christain apologetic websites are useless, when it comes to a search for truth.
No your posting are really much dumber.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3399 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember this?
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying when there was no time there was nothing....Zipville.....elnodd o...goose Egg?
And time started "about" 13.7 billion years ago? Is that right?
<quoted text>
"That is *one* of the possibilities, yes."
Remember?
I am sorry that I thought you were smart enough to understand the use of english words in this context, but I guess I was wrong. I am *not* saying that there was 'nothing' and then, later, there was everything. The problem is that the phrase 'before time' is simply meaningless.

If time began at some point, before that simply doesn't exist. I am not saying that a thing called 'nothing' existed. I am saying that it is *meaningless* to use the phrase 'before time'. And *one* of the possibilities is that 'before about 13.7 billion years ago' is simply meaningless.
KJV

United States

#3400 Apr 23, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to think that 'nothing' is a thing. Once again, the phrase 'when there was no time' is self-contradictory.
Ok so you wish to try and play word games. Ok that's cool. Remember you did answer yes to the nothing when time did not exist so this can be nothing more then back tracking.
KJV

United States

#3401 Apr 23, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to think that 'nothing' is a thing. Once again, the phrase 'when there was no time' is self-contradictory.
See below

KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying when there was no time there was nothing....Zipville.....elnodd o...goose Egg?
And time started "about" 13.7 billion years ago? Is that right?
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>That is *one* of the possibilities, yes.

Another, as your multiple posts explained, is a Big Bounce according to Loop Quantum Gravity.

Yet another, according to String Theory, is a multiverse with multiple universes.

Which of these possibilities is reality we do not known yet since we don't have the relevant data. Unlike religion, science doesn't get to simply make things up and say they are correct. Instead, we require data and actual evidence to support our conjectures. When several different models fit the available data, we keep all of them on the table until new data shows which is correct or, at least, which is wrong.
KJV

United States

#3402 Apr 23, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry that I thought you were smart enough to understand the use of english words in this context, but I guess I was wrong. I am *not* saying that there was 'nothing' and then, later, there was everything. The problem is that the phrase 'before time' is simply meaningless.

If time began at some point, before that simply doesn't exist. I am not saying that a thing called 'nothing' existed. I am saying that it is *meaningless* to use the phrase 'before time'. And *one* of the possibilities is that 'before about 13.7 billion years ago' is simply meaningless.
Play you word games.

You've already answered that when there was no time there was nothing.

I thought you would be a better debater but you pulling back so fast and your back tracking you've exposed yourselves to be nothing more then the other trolls on these threads.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3403 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Play you word games.
You've already answered that when there was no time there was nothing.
I thought you would be a better debater but you pulling back so fast and your back tracking you've exposed yourselves to be nothing more then the other trolls on these threads.
I have repeatedly stated that the phrase 'before there was time' is meaningless. It is self-contradictory. In *that* sense, there was nothing. But such a time simply did not exist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3404 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Wrong
Prove it-- show this ... ahem "evidence" of a >>global<< flood, from a WELL RESPECTED university, such as Harvard or The University of California. Your Lying For Jewsus institutions are not respected...
KJV wrote:
2) "27,000 feet of water. " LOL. Idiot
No, that is the correct value needed to cover all the mountains-- as your bible claimed happened.

But you have no answer, so you scoff instead. Typical.
KJV wrote:
3) the oceans
Nope-- if the WHOLE WORLD was flooded? And it "went to the oceans" then?

WE WOULD STILL BE FLOODED... sheesh, you just don't get it...

All that excess water had to go SOMEWHERE-- it simply did not dry up into the air....!
KJV wrote:
4) 99% of the water came from the fountains of the deep.
No such thing. Fail.
KJV wrote:
5) God helped.
Magic. Gotcha. Why didn't god just use his MAGIC to KILL ALL THE BAD PEOPLE? And avoid all this flooding mess...???

Hmmmmmm? Your god is ...

.... kinda stupid...
KJV wrote:
6) they walked
What? Across ... the OCEANS?

You are seriously stupid if you think that...!
KJV wrote:
7) he followed Gods command and broke no laws.
So he was perfect? Wow... that kinda RUINS your whole "we are all sinners", then.... DON'T IT?

You just don't think this through very well....!

But we already noted your god is stupid.
KJV wrote:
8) the family was expert boat builders.
Lie. There is nothing in the bible that says that.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3405 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking at the zipville analogy.
You agree in this model everything that exist came from nothing?
100% lie.

The Big Bang theory does not claim that.

No scientist does.

Only you idiots claim *poof* by magic, Goddidit... from nothing, too.

Which actually says your GOD is nothing too!

LOL!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3406 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
The correct answer.
Magic, goddidit. We got that already.

If your stupid god was gonna magic it up ANYWAY?

Why not just magic up a fatal disease that ONLY affected BAD people?

Too much for your stupid god?

Obviously...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3407 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
Nothing but a Lying For Jewsus website-- 100% lies, 100% of the time, too.

Unless you can point to actual UNIVERSITY papers?

You got nothing.

As per your usual.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3408 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Play you word games.
You've already answered that when there was no time there was nothing.
I thought you would be a better debater but you pulling back so fast and your back tracking you've exposed yourselves to be nothing more then the other trolls on these threads.
Once again, you prove beyond a doubt, that you are incapable of learning.

This is quite sad to witness...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#3409 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
No your posting are really much dumber.
Uhm? Not.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#3410 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok so you wish to try and play word games. Ok that's cool. Remember you did answer yes to the nothing when time did not exist so this can be nothing more then back tracking.
Nothing, as in not even existence. It is clear that you are the one playing word games.

Once again: the phrase 'before time' is meaningless. To use the word 'before' requires that there be time. In *that* sense, there was nothing: not even existence.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#3411 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Wrong
2) "27,000 feet of water. " LOL. Idiot
3) the oceans
4) 99% of the water came from the fountains of the deep.
5) God helped.
6) they walked
7) he followed Gods command and broke no laws.
8) the family was expert boat builders.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Wrong
....
Please supply a peer reviewed journal article from a reputable organization MIT, Berkley, Cornell ....
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
....
2) "27,000 feet of water. " LOL. Idiot
....
Apparently you did not do Geography at school. Have you ever heard of Mt Everest (29,029 ft) it's millions of years old therefore the water was 29,029 ft deep or didn't you read your bibull?
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
....
3) the oceans
....
They are not deep enough.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
.....
4) 99% of the water came from the fountains of the deep.
.....
Really and just how did the water get there in the first place?
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
....
6) they walked
....
What, are Kangaroos gods and can walk on water, perhaps you should start a new religion.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
.....
7) he followed Gods command and broke no laws.
.....
Law has nothing to do with it, inbreeding produces birth defects.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
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8) the family was expert boat builders.
Bull.
KJV

United States

#3412 Apr 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing, as in not even existence. It is clear that you are the one playing word games.

Once again: the phrase 'before time' is meaningless. To use the word 'before' requires that there be time. In *that* sense, there was nothing: not even existence.
No word games Doc. Look at a 3D object in a 2D world. It can't be seen or even guessed at as to what it might even be like. Consider Time as the 4th D. What would or could a 5D object be like?

I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept.

3D is not a meaning less concept in a 2D world it's just not of that Dimension.
And it can never exist in that world. Just as 2D can't exist in a 1D world or Universe the same is true with a 5th D object in a 4th D universe.

My question is, what if anything was there before the 4th Dimension existed.
You should realize the answer has to be
"We don't know". Claiming nothing is just a guess. At this time we don't know if anything ever did or does exist in the 5th Dimension. One thing it's not is meaningless.
KJV

United States

#3413 Apr 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
1) Wrong
....
"

Please supply a peer reviewed journal article from a reputable organization MIT, Berkley, Cornell ....

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
....
2) "27,000 feet of water. " LOL. Idiot
....
"

Apparently you did not do Geography at school. Have you ever heard of Mt Everest (29,029 ft) it's millions of years old therefore the water was 29,029 ft deep or didn't you read your bibull?

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
....
3) the oceans
....
"

They are not deep enough.

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
.....
4) 99% of the water came from the fountains of the deep.
.....
"

Really and just how did the water get there in the first place?

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
....
6) they walked
....
"

What, are Kangaroos gods and can walk on water, perhaps you should start a new religion.

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
.....
7) he followed Gods command and broke no laws.
.....
"

Law has nothing to do with it, inbreeding produces birth defects.

KJV wrote, "<quoted text>
.....
8) the family was expert boat builders.
"

Bull.
"Apparently you did not do Geography at school. Have you ever heard of Mt Everest (29,029 ft) it's millions of years old therefore the water was 29,029 ft deep or didn't you read your bibull?"

Apparently you don't know the Bible on this subject. Feel free to study it and get back to me once you've become educated.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3415 Apr 24, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
No word games Doc. Look at a 3D object in a 2D world. It can't be seen or even guessed at as to what it might even be like. Consider Time as the 4th D. What would or could a 5D object be like?
I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept.
3D is not a meaning less concept in a 2D world it's just not of that Dimension.
And it can never exist in that world. Just as 2D can't exist in a 1D world or Universe the same is true with a 5th D object in a 4th D universe.
My question is, what if anything was there before the 4th Dimension existed.
You should realize the answer has to be
"We don't know". Claiming nothing is just a guess. At this time we don't know if anything ever did or does exist in the 5th Dimension. One thing it's not is meaningless.
Word salad, devoid of meaning. Again.

The above is NOT proof of your terrorist-god. Not even a little bit.

Your god is still myth.

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