Noah's flood real

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3205 Apr 17, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
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The name YhWh is the oldest name recorded in its tetragram form.
Correct me if I am wrong but Zues was one of the gods the greeks worshipped.
There were any number of gods, much-much older than YHWH, which only reliably dates to roughly 500BCE or so.

That is, if you ignore bible "evidence" which, obviously, has an agenda.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3206 Apr 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Thought by ... whom? You?
As if .. you are a proven liar, so YOUR word is insufficient.
In any case, that's still not proof of your god's being real.
Their is a God,Their is no evidence saying he does not exist. The evidence that proves is the biblical propecies which all except 2 have already happened. Revelation 17,18,19 describes the destruction of false religion. It describes religion as Babylon the great,because like the ancient city of babylon it sits on many waters, and it also brings ou that it is found over nation and within every language. The scriptures also note that the merchants and kings of the earth have grown rich and lived in shameless luxary.

revelation 18 ;23,24"and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; because your traveling merchants were the top&#8208;ranking men of the earth, for by your spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth"
That is just on excerpt from chapter 18 of Revelation.
The first chapter of revelation tells you that it is written in signs and symbols.

The bible does not say how this will hppen but it does say that all of religion riches will be depleted and it will be completed destroyed. the bible also says the before this happens the nations and kings of the earth will give their power to the wild beast or (U.N) who is going to carry out this decision.

(Revelation 17: 16-18)The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

This prophecy is approahing,you can see it by the way people act towards it. The bible does not lie.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3207 Apr 17, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
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The ark was not a boat but a giant rectangular vessel. If you read the measurements it was not shaped like a boat. They will never find its gone by now.
According to Naval oceanic simulations?

A craft built of wood, the size as shown in your bible?

1) it would crack in half, and sink, with the first wave over 3 feet-- wooden vessels that size cannot be built with technology available to Noah.

2) presuming magically-strong (read: impossible) wood? A vessel built to bible-specs, would rapidly turn broadside to waves-- and lacking a keel (not mentioned) would begin to rock and would founder within 20 minutes or so of normal, light wave action.

3) Noah did not have modern caulking. Neither did he have access to machined wood-- all cut by hand. Moreover, the only technology he had access to, was the clinker-style of ship-building-- overlapping wooden slats, in other words. There is a technological reason why you >>never<< >>ever<< see clinker-style boats bigger than about 20 feet or so-- flexing of the boards, as the ship twists in the waves, causes massive leaks--too great for anyone to bail. A smaller boat leaks too, but not so much that you cannot bail it dry. So the ark, even using magically strong wood, and using magical steering gear (not mentioned in the bible), would still sink within 30 minutes of nominal wave action.

4) The ark, as described in the bible was too small for the >>known<< animals common to Noah's area--- let alone all the animals in the world. In fact? Conservative estimates of the number of different "kinds", if loaded on the ark? Each individual--including Noah and his sons-- gets roughly 2 millimeters square... yes, I said millimeters-- that's about 1/16 of an inch or so. Food? No room...

5) The ark allegedly (and magically) remained afloat for about a year or so-- the >>actual<< time is not listed accurately. But let's say 6 months. There was not room on the ark, for the >>water<< needed to keep the >>humans<< alive during that time-- remember-- the ark was >>sealed<< up >>god-tight<<. So there is no cheating and using rainwater here...

6) The ark had to have food for all the animals for 6 months. Just the elephants alone, the food requirements would have swamped the whole volume...

7) what did the meat-eaters eat? There were but two of each species--- what did the LIONS eat? The tigers? The other carnivores? Without meat-- in 6 months, they are DEAD, DEAD, DEAD-- and no, grains would not do here-- Noah was ignorant of the mineral and vitamin requirements of obligate carnivores on veggies...

... shall I continue?

Any ONE of these means the story is 100% false.

All seven? Well-- the Ark story is 100% myth. To several decimal places...

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#3208 Apr 17, 2013
Nobody asked for your rambling cult nonsense. You have been brainwashed not us. Oh and the word is there not their.

Thank you for demonstrating how cults target poorly educated low IQ people such as yourself.

Still waiting for your link showing no name predates Yahweh.

Lmfao!
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>Their is a God,Their is no evidence.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3209 Apr 17, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
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Their is a God,Their is no evidence saying he does not exist.
Actually?

There is: want to see it?

Here you go:

Proof your god isn't real: I submit... the sum-total of YOUR UGLY POSTS.

Especially the ones in which you ridicule and belittle others you perceive to not be in your tight little club.

Now. Presuming this "god" of yours is an actual... divine being?

Then we may expect that this god is interested in Divine levels of Justice, and equally Divine levels of Goodness?

The proof runs like this: what god, who was truly interested in both Justice and Good, would permit the likes of ...

... YOU ...

... to be It's spokes-person, it's missionary to people who do NOT believe in It?

Answer:

No god who was GOOD or JUST would suffer the likes of YOU.

There you have it!

Irrefutable proof, that your god is not real.

(too easy)
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#3210 Apr 18, 2013
The bible endorses slavery, paedophilia and rape.
It is also full of inaccuracies.
spidersandsnakes wrote:
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The bible does not lie.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#3212 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
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I already apologized for that miss quote.
I took it from a study Bible rather then the real Bible. I'm bad on this one.
Good for you.

How much do you rely on study guides in your interpretation of the bible?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3213 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Yes I know.
American Association for the Advancement of Science found that "just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power.
The NAS would refute those figures.

And either way, it's irrelevant.
Lincoln

United States

#3214 Apr 18, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually?
There is: want to see it?
Here you go:
Proof your god isn't real: I submit... the sum-total of YOUR UGLY POSTS.
Especially the ones in which you ridicule and belittle others you perceive to not be in your tight little club.
Now. Presuming this "god" of yours is an actual... divine being?
Then we may expect that this god is interested in Divine levels of Justice, and equally Divine levels of Goodness?
The proof runs like this: what god, who was truly interested in both Justice and Good, would permit the likes of ...
... YOU ...
... to be It's spokes-person, it's missionary to people who do NOT believe in It?
Answer:
No god who was GOOD or JUST would suffer the likes of YOU.
There you have it!
Irrefutable proof, that your god is not real.
(too easy)
Are you trying to Convince Yourself of this?
Proof :-)
Maybe your oft posted opinion,
but proof might be a stretch.
No need to reply
You already know everything
Lincoln

United States

#3215 Apr 18, 2013
Are you trying to Convince Yourself of this?
Proof :-)
Maybe your oft posted opinion,
but proof might *by* a stretch.
No need to reply
You already know everything

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#3217 Apr 18, 2013
The NAS shows only 7% of the scientists who are leaders in their fields believe in a god.

Regardless it means nothing as you are using an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

Without observable proof for a god the atheist in on solid ground for not believing.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Upon further review the call stands.
Aerobatty will lose a time out.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3218 Apr 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>The NAS shows only 7% of the scientists who are leaders in their fields believe in a god.

Regardless it means nothing as you are using an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

Without observable proof for a god the atheist in on solid ground for not believing.
Do I get my time out back?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3219 Apr 18, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Do I get my time out back?
Of course! Godbots are not in charge anymore.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#3220 Apr 18, 2013
It was never taken, that was just a brain dead fanboy for the other team flailing and failing :)
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Do I get my time out back?
KJV

United States

#3221 Apr 18, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>According to Naval oceanic simulations?

A craft built of wood, the size as shown in your bible?

1) it would crack in half, and sink, with the first wave over 3 feet-- wooden vessels that size cannot be built with technology available to Noah.

2) presuming magically-strong (read: impossible) wood? A vessel built to bible-specs, would rapidly turn broadside to waves-- and lacking a keel (not mentioned) would begin to rock and would founder within 20 minutes or so of normal, light wave action.

3) Noah did not have modern caulking. Neither did he have access to machined wood-- all cut by hand. Moreover, the only technology he had access to, was the clinker-style of ship-building-- overlapping wooden slats, in other words. There is a technological reason why you >>never<< >>ever<< see clinker-style boats bigger than about 20 feet or so-- flexing of the boards, as the ship twists in the waves, causes massive leaks--too great for anyone to bail. A smaller boat leaks too, but not so much that you cannot bail it dry. So the ark, even using magically strong wood, and using magical steering gear (not mentioned in the bible), would still sink within 30 minutes of nominal wave action.

4) The ark, as described in the bible was too small for the >>known<< animals common to Noah's area--- let alone all the animals in the world. In fact? Conservative estimates of the number of different "kinds", if loaded on the ark? Each individual--including Noah and his sons-- gets roughly 2 millimeters square... yes, I said millimeters-- that's about 1/16 of an inch or so. Food? No room...

5) The ark allegedly (and magically) remained afloat for about a year or so-- the >>actual<< time is not listed accurately. But let's say 6 months. There was not room on the ark, for the >>water<< needed to keep the >>humans<< alive during that time-- remember-- the ark was >>sealed<< up >>god-tight<<. So there is no cheating and using rainwater here...

6) The ark had to have food for all the animals for 6 months. Just the elephants alone, the food requirements would have swamped the whole volume...

7) what did the meat-eaters eat? There were but two of each species--- what did the LIONS eat? The tigers? The other carnivores? Without meat-- in 6 months, they are DEAD, DEAD, DEAD-- and no, grains would not do here-- Noah was ignorant of the mineral and vitamin requirements of obligate carnivores on veggies...

... shall I continue?

Any ONE of these means the story is 100% false.

All seven? Well-- the Ark story is 100% myth. To several decimal places...
1). Did the Navy use Gopher wood?
2). The ship has been duplicated in many test and proven to be sea worthy.
3). Did you Ark have a huge hole in the middle? Noah's did the wave action would pump fresh air though out the ship and make it easy to get rid of animal waste.

4). Meat eater ate meat

5). It is pretty doubtful that any adult animal would have been brought on board.(Baby's eat less and take up less room)

6). " So there is no cheating and using rainwater here". This is just dumb!
KJV

United States

#3222 Apr 18, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Do I get my time out back?
No and you only have one more red flag to use.
Lincoln

United States

#3223 Apr 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The NAS shows only 7% of the scientists who are leaders in their fields believe in a god.
Regardless it means nothing as you are using an appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Without observable proof for a god the atheist in on solid ground for not believing.
<quoted text>
77% of statistics are made up!:-)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3224 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
1). Did the Navy use Gopher wood?
No such thing, silly person.
KJV wrote:
2). The ship has been duplicated in many test and proven to be sea worthy.
Lie. Why do you lie? If you HAD an example-- you'd have posted it...
KJV wrote:
3). Did you Ark have a huge hole in the middle? Noah's did the wave action would pump fresh air though out the ship and make it easy to get rid of animal waste.
Lie again-- you do not read, do you? There were TWO openings-- JUST TWO--BOTH SEALED SHUT, according to your bible. The top one was ONLY opened after nearly 6 months, to let out a magical bird of some sort.

Go and re-read it. This time, pay attention.
KJV wrote:
4). Meat eater ate meat
Really? So every time the meat eaters ate, ANOTHER "kind" went extinct?

Too funny!
KJV wrote:
5). It is pretty doubtful that any adult animal would have been brought on board.(Baby's eat less and take up less room)
Bullsh7t. Your bible >>specifically<< states BREEDING PAIRS.

In any case? Baby or adult TWO SQUARE MILLIMETERS IS TOO SMALL.
KJV wrote:
6). " So there is no cheating and using rainwater here". This is just dumb!
Yes-- you are dumb. You don't even read your own myth!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3225 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
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4). Meat eater ate meat
You don't read, do you?

You SKIPPED #4-- your answer doesn't apply to #4:

4) The ark, as described in the bible was too small for the >>known<< animals common to Noah's area--- let alone all the animals in the world. In fact? Conservative estimates of the number of different "kinds", if loaded on the ark? Each individual--including Noah and his sons-- gets roughly 2 millimeters square... yes, I said millimeters-- that's about 1/16 of an inch or so. Food? No room...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3226 Apr 18, 2013
More Ark Fail:

8) there was only 1 hatch-- in the top-- how did they muck out the manure of 5 MILLION species of animals? Ark fail.

9) there is not enough water on the earth, to flood all the mountains, as specified in the BuyBull. Ark fail.

10) if it did rain enough water (magic?) in only 40 days, to cover all the mountains? The rate of water-fall would be as dense as actual water-- like being IN a waterfall, in fact. Such a high rate of fall, would have destroyed Noah's wooden boat in minutes.

More: Everything would have drowned, too. Ark fail.

11) Noah did not bring trees on board. Any biologist knows that trees, when drowned, die.

Noah was not on-board long enough for new Olive trees to re-grow in time for leaves to be found by his dove. Ark fail.

12) Terrestrial plant seeds, if immersed in water for very long-- several days-- will simply rot and die. After the whole earth was flooded, the BuyBull says nearly a year, before the water "went down"... WHERE?) This would have destroyed ALL plant-life on earth.

Once Noah opened his boat? He would have seen nothing but deadwood and mud. All the plant-eaters starved within days.

Ark fail.

13) Once the ark was opened? Who fed the meat-eaters? Oops! The Tigers just ate that gazelle-- and now gazelles are extinct.

WHAT DID THE MEAT-EATERS EAT, AFTER THE ARK WAS OPENED? Only 2 pair, after all! Ark fail.

14) I guess the Unicorns, as mentioned in the BuyBull did not make the cut, onto the ark.... Ark fail?

15) Dead fish. Noah was >>not<< instructed to bring fishes onto the ark. Yet? Putting enough fresh (rain) water into the salt oceans to cover the mountains, would dilute it to dangerous levels-- KILLING ALL LIFE IN ALL THE OCEANS, EVERYWHERE.

From whence did modern sea life come from, then? Magic? Ark fail.

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