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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#2508 Feb 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Pi never has and never will be 3. You're a f*cking idiot, just the same as the idiots who thought Pi was 3. Other parts of the world figured it out thousands of years before you idiots wrote that rubbish down.
Ok Dolt list Pi I bet you can't get any closer more less.

Since: Dec 12

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#2509 Feb 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry but amen has it's roots traced back to the Egyptian god Ra.

:)
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1 century Christians did not worship jesus,You are mistaken.
Matthew 28 :19'20 "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded &#8203;YOU. And, look! I am with &#8203;YOU&#8203; all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
matthew 4:8
8 "Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory,9 and he said to him:“All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.”10 Then Jesus said to him:“Go away, Satan! For it is written,‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
the watchtower use to contain those symbols but they removed once they studied and realized that it was a part of false worship. they stopped celebrating the holidays and many other things.
The first century christians did not worship jesus,but jehovah.or yahweh.
the word amen in greek /hebrew translated in english means " so be it or " surely" . It does not orginate with an egyptian amen ra because amen ra is translated hidden.
This world is not ok, The majority in the world live in poverty.
The Goverments are terrible.
Im not JW but i know for a fact they are doing what the dirst century christians did.
In ancient rome if you did not participate in there festivals you were persecuted which is why they would throw them into the arenas.
after the 3rd it became contaminated with people who wanted people to follow them so many of them began twisting the scriptures and it became dark for a while.
this is prophesied in the bible
matth24:4 "4And in answer Jesus said to them:“Look out that nobody misleads &#8203;YOU;5for many will come on the basis of my name, saying,‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many"
1 timothy 4;1 to 4
However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons,2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron;3forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth"
If you you read the bible it will show you how a christian is suppose to act.
"Woe to &#8203;YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because &#8203;YOU&#8203; resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness.28In that way &#8203;YOU&#8203; also, outwardly indeed, appear righteous to men, but inside &#8203;YOU&#8203; are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
matt 23 "Woe to &#8203;YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because &#8203;YOU&#8203; resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness.28In that way &#8203;YOU&#8203; also, outwardly indeed, appear righteous to men, but inside &#8203;YOU&#8203; are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness."
The romans persucted christians because many of the goverment leaders participated cult like rituals.
Roman religion revolved around traditions many gods
They only decided to legalize christianity once they combined the false teachings and mixed them.
Which is why today we have holidays,idol worship etc...
true christians did not participate in the cultic practices of the romans

Since: Dec 12

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#2510 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why? The Bible has prophecies that are known to be false.
The Prophet Ezekiel predicted that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre, but he failed in his siege.
Jesus was supposed to bring about the Messianic Age, but he failed.
Nebuchadnezzar did siege Tyre, Babylon did invade tyre.
jesus is the messianic reign.. he is reigning now.

Jesus is Gods son, he was not going to return in flesh but in spirit. the sign of his rulling is now.

Jesus's angelic name is Micheal the arch angel the head of all angels.. He was Gods first creation.

"For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.8All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

Mattheww 24 "9“Then people will deliver &#8203;YOU&#8203; up to tribulation and will kill &#8203;YOU, and &#8203;YOU&#8203; will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.10Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another.11And many false prophets will arise and mislead many;1 2and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.13But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.14And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

revelation 12:9 "And war broke out in heaven: Mi&#8242;cha&#8231;el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled8but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven.9So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him."

The last days are significant because jesus or Michael is reigning and the first thing he did was kick satan and demons out from heaven and confined to the earth.

They are waiting there judgment and because this they are angry knowing that they have short period of time.

You cannot see them but you see them through actions and over all personality of this world.

1 john 2;15 "Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him;16 because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. "

Jesus already came down to the earth, If you read the bible, satan challanged Gods authority to rule, Satan challanged that he could turn every human against him.god let satan proves his case but offcouse satan has failed.. He has had a time period from adam and eve to today but he has failed.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#2511 Feb 13, 2013
Leah you are so full of sht and you know it because you refuse to join the Jehovah witless cult and your actions speak louder than words.

So this cult taught you Christians were thrown to the lions because they didn't celebrate the winter solstice? Lmfao! Wrong! Jews didn't celebrate that and they weren't punished for it. Christians were punished for causing trouble, standing on the streets screaming at people to convert to their god because the end was nigh. Armageddon was coming any day now. But worse they stated their god and only their god was true and that he was the god of Abraham that the Jews worshipped. This is what brought the heat on them, not because of not celebrating winter solstice which you have no proof that they didn't celebrate winter solstice. All you have is what the cult taught you to believe. The same cult that thought it was a great idea to plaster Egyptian religious symbols all over their propaganda and the founder Taze Russell a known con man designed his grave site to rejoice in Egyptian religious symbols.

Get real Leah there is a reason you refuse to join them.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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1 century Christians did not worship jesus,You are mistaken.
the watchtower use to contain those symbols but they removed once they studied and realized that it was a part of false.
the word amen in greek /hebrew translated in english means " so be it or " surely" . It does not orginate with an egyptian amen ra because amen ra is translated hidden.
In ancient rome if you did not participate in there festivals you were persecuted which is why they would throw them into the arenas.
They only decided to legalize christianity once they combined the false teachings and mixed them.
true christians did not participate in the cultic practices of the romans

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#2512 Feb 14, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Pi never has and never will be 3. You're a f*cking idiot, just the same as the idiots who thought Pi was 3. Other parts of the world figured it out thousands of years before you idiots wrote that rubbish down.
I told it that days ago but you know what godbots are like they never learn.

Since: Dec 11

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#2513 Feb 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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Nebuchadnezzar did siege Tyre, Babylon did invade tyre.
Nebuchadnezzar's siege failed. He never got inside the city. The prophecy fails.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
jesus is the messianic reign.. he is reigning now.
The Messianic Age is an era of world peace and religious understanding. Jesus didn't bring that. He failed.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#2514 Feb 15, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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amen means it shall be done it has nothing to with an egyptian God.
Russell was just aman who studied the bible andwanted to understand the real meaning of it. no one worshipped russell they were all just bible students..
the difference between Jehovah witnesses and other christian denominationsthat when they find error they correct it whille the other denominatiins do not..
im aware that the watchtowers used tonhave egyptian signs the magazine but when did more reseaech they corrected.
they also use to celebrate holidays but they corrected that also.
if you read the bible , Jesus and his deciples and the first century christians did the exact same thing as Jehovahs witnesses...
Isaih 43:10 10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah,“even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
i think is very interesting that acknowledge Gods name. The king james had the name inside up until the 90s when the religious leaders declared it was to confusing for people..
im not jehovah witness but when i studied with them i could see that they going exactly by the bible ..
they do the exact thing jesus was doing...
the original christians were not liked
because they didnt participate in the roman festivals,worship or the pegan traditions we see today.
Thr majority of christendom goes by man made traditions that have nothing to do the bible but everything to do with themselves.
Jesus was real, so was pontius pilate and ceasar the two princes named in jeremiah 38:1 were found on coins in the excavation of jerusalem.
the bible was composed over long period of time. the bible mentions so many human behaviors and traits,
im 100% sure the bible prophecies are going to happen..
they are happening now. look at society as whole and how degraded its gotten.
we have always had crime and corruption but now its on grand scale.
atheist really do not have to do all protestingd about religion because the bible fortells its end.
The U.N is going to end it.
it will happen out nowhere and it shock people.
all the bible does is warn people its not here make ppl serve God.
Human rule has not brought us happiness,
if it wasnt for Jesus humans would have killed themselves a long time ago .
Our world is corrupt.
All religion is a man made tradition, why do you think there are so many?
Siro

Ashfield, Australia

#2516 Feb 17, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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All religion is a man made tradition, why do you think there are so many?
And yet atheism is inspired by malevolence

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#2517 Feb 17, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>Ok Dolt list Pi I bet you can't get any closer more less.
Note the crickets from Septic.
LOL
Thinking

Ilminster, UK

#2518 Feb 18, 2013
Non sequitur. I don't find you inspiring in the slightest.
Siro wrote:
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And yet atheism is inspired by malevolence

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#2519 Feb 18, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet atheism is inspired by malevolence
Yet you are the one who comes here spewing hate and vitriol with every post.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2520 Feb 18, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Ok Dolt list Pi I bet you can't get any closer more less.
What is pi (3.14) rounded to the nearest whole number?
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Thinking

Ilminster, UK

#2521 Feb 18, 2013
What is pi (~3.14)

or

What is pi (3.14...)

would be more correct.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>
What is pi (3.14) rounded to the nearest whole number?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jG7vhMMXagQXX&list=UUOGeU -1Fig3rrDjhm9Zs_wg&index=4 5

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2522 Feb 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What is pi (~3.14)
or
What is pi (3.14...)
would be more correct.
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The complete number is not needed for rounding purposes. I could have just used 3.1 instead of 3.14. It is a horse a piece.
Thinking

Ilminster, UK

#2523 Feb 18, 2013
Writing "pi (3.14)" is wrong.

Writing "pi (~3.14)" or "pi (3.14...)" is not.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>The complete number is not needed for rounding purposes. I could have just used 3.1 instead of 3.14. It is a horse a piece.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2524 Feb 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Writing "pi (3.14)" is wrong.
Writing "pi (~3.14)" or "pi (3.14...)" is not.
<quoted text>
Either way, what do you get when you round it to the nearest whole number ?
Thinking

Ilminster, UK

#2525 Feb 19, 2013
Don't you know? Do I have to tell you everything?
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Either way, what do you get when you round it to the nearest whole number ?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2526 Feb 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Don't you know? Do I have to tell you everything?
<quoted text>
Yup. So, please be useful.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#2527 Feb 19, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Either way, what do you get when you round it to the nearest whole number ?
People keep asking that as though it were an apt question. It is not. The biblical passage in question does not give a value for pi, only the dimensions of a circular pool that are clearly wrong. Therefore, the value of pi is not the real issue. The issue is whether the Bible is infallible. In this instance, it is not.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#2528 Feb 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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In today's math yes. If you don't have fractions or decimal points and use elbow to finger tip as a ruler then 30 cubits would be accurate because Pi could and would only be "3".
What you don't seem to understand is that no multiplication by pi is required. Nor is it mentioned in the Bible. What is mentioned is the distance across (10 cubits) and the distance around (30 cubits). Both could be measured directly.

But now you have a problem. If the distance across is 10 cubits, the distance around would be just over 31 cubits. Again, this could be obtained by direct measurement, with no multiplication by anything. For the distance around to be rounded down to 30 cubits, the distance across has to be less than 10 cubits by about a third of a cubit: clearly something they would have noticed.

Either way, the Biblical account is not reliable. Either the distance around is larger than what was claimed or the distance across is significantly smaller than what was claimed.

Now, it is possible that they only measured the distance across, then multiplied by the rounded value of pi to get the (approximate) distance around, but that is even unlikely for that time period: they would have preferred to do the measurement directly.

Once again, I think the whole argument on this is just silly. There are far worse errors in the Bible than being off by a cubit in the distance around a vat. The lack of a global flood, for example. The lack of an exodus, as another.

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