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# Noah's flood real

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Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#2488 Feb 11, 2013
Maybe that's why their walls kept falling down...
NightSerf wrote:
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I don't think there was any calculation involved. They were describing the pool, not analyzing it. As such, they wouldn't have taken one measurement and then calculated the other, but would have measured them both. The inaccuracy simply shows how crude those measurements were.
I've never taken a very close look at the history of math--maybe it's time to do that. Somehow, I doubt that the early Hebrews will play much of a role in it, though.

Langoliers

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#2489 Feb 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Why would you think that is the problem in the Bible? The number pi was not singled out as a number of independent interest for a few hundred years; the goal was to find the circumference given the diameter. Given that as the problem, if the 10 is a rounded value, then the rounded value of the circumference could be anywhere from 30 to 33.
In today's math yes. If you don't have fractions or decimal points and use elbow to finger tip as a ruler then 30 cubits would be accurate because Pi could and would only be "3".

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#2490 Feb 11, 2013
Archimedes was an interesting dude light years ahead of his time. Facinating genius.
polymath257 wrote:
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Well, Archimedes would not have known about the irrationality of pi, let alone the fact that it is transcendental (or have even understood what it means to be transcendental). The irrationality of pi wasn't known until the middle of the 18th century AD and the transcendence of pi not until 1882.

Since: Mar 11

#2491 Feb 11, 2013
The ancient Egyptians were an interesting lot. Check out Dr. Kara Cooney a cutie MD on the subject of ancient Egyptians.

Smart and cute!
NightSerf wrote:
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I don't think there was any calculation involved. They were describing the pool, not analyzing it. As such, they wouldn't have taken one measurement and then calculated the other, but would have measured them both. The inaccuracy simply shows how crude those measurements were.
I've never taken a very close look at the history of math--maybe it's time to do that. Somehow, I doubt that the early Hebrews will play much of a role in it, though.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#2492 Feb 11, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_fract...

Indeed you are correct! No need for people of that time to round up or down or only use while numbers. The ancient Egyptians amongst other cultures were using fractions long before the genesis myth was written.
Givemeliberty wrote:

I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
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"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "

OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!

You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!

You give Christians thousands of dollars of your own money!!!!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa

Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#2493 Feb 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Civilisations were using fractional approximations to pi long before your POS bible was invented.

Your bible was already out of date when the goatfuckers wrote it.
Blood presser check time!

LOL

Since: Mar 11

#2494 Feb 11, 2013
Blood what? Presser? Keep scampering into stupidity.
Langoliers wrote:
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Blood presser check time!
LOL
Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#2495 Feb 11, 2013
Oh dear. You're a sandwich short of a full picnic, aren't you, poppet?
Langoliers wrote:
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Blood presser check time!
LOL

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#2496 Feb 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Oh dear. You're a sandwich short of a full picnic, aren't you, poppet?
LOL!

Too many ants!

Since: Dec 12

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#2497 Feb 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If you went trick or treat you're part of the occult? No.
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If a person participates in holidays that derived from the worship of ancient gods then yes they in one

haloween comes from the worship of the dead.or all souls day
the celts worshipped the dead but when the so called christians came in,instead of telling the people they couldn't worship theirs god they just names all saints day or halloween.

the celebrations of these holidays remain the same as what they derive from.

when you celebrate your birthday,that has its roots of ancient worship, the egyptians believed their rulers were gods and they would celebrate their birth.
also romans and greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon around them when they were born so in order to protect them they would gather there family members and shower them with gifts and giving them well wishes, they also made a lot noise to ward off the bad spirits.

Remember each society was conquerd by another an they took on their gods and traditions.

Don't take my word for it look it up for yourself.
New world encylepedia or go to the library an look for the book ancient gods.

if you participate in this you are just carrying on the tradition.its pegan or cult or whatever you choose to call it.

Since: Mar 11

#2498 Feb 12, 2013
Yes and the entire Jesus myth in the bible was stolen from the same pagan gods. The entire thing. Saying amen at the end of a prayer is a praise to the Egyptian god Amen Ra.

I bet your cult magazine the watchtower left that info out didn't it?

Speaking of pagan go look at the grave of Taze Russell the founder of the JW cult. It doesn't look very Christian does it? More like a Horus worshipper.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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If a person participates in holidays that derived from the worship of ancient gods then yes they in one
haloween comes from the worship of the dead.or all souls day
the celts worshipped the dead but when the so called christians came in,instead of telling the people they couldn't worship theirs god they just names all saints day or halloween.
the celebrations of these holidays remain the same as what they derive from.
when you celebrate your birthday,that has its roots of ancient worship, the egyptians believed their rulers were gods and they would celebrate their birth.
also romans and greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon around them when they were born so in order to protect them they would gather there family members and shower them with gifts and giving them well wishes, they also made a lot noise to ward off the bad spirits.
Remember each society was conquerd by another an they took on their gods and traditions.
Don't take my word for it look it up for yourself.
New world encylepedia or go to the library an look for the book ancient gods.
if you participate in this you are just carrying on the tradition.its pegan or cult or whatever you choose to call it.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#2499 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes and the entire Jesus myth in the bible was stolen from the same pagan gods. The entire thing. Saying amen at the end of a prayer is a praise to the Egyptian god Amen Ra.
I bet your cult magazine the watchtower left that info out didn't it?
Speaking of pagan go look at the grave of Taze Russell the founder of the JW cult. It doesn't look very Christian does it? More like a Horus worshipper.
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Don't forget Christmas, another pagan holiday stolen by Christatrds.

Since: Jun 07

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#2500 Feb 12, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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In today's math yes. If you don't have fractions or decimal points and use elbow to finger tip as a ruler then 30 cubits would be accurate because Pi could and would only be "3".
Pi never has and never will be 3. You're a f*cking idiot, just the same as the idiots who thought Pi was 3. Other parts of the world figured it out thousands of years before you idiots wrote that rubbish down.
Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#2501 Feb 12, 2013
Spell check?
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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If a person participates in holidays that derived from the worship of ancient gods then yes they in one
haloween comes from the worship of the dead.or all souls day
the celts worshipped the dead but when the so called christians came in,instead of telling the people they couldn't worship theirs god they just names all saints day or halloween.
the celebrations of these holidays remain the same as what they derive from.
when you celebrate your birthday,that has its roots of ancient worship, the egyptians believed their rulers were gods and they would celebrate their birth.
also romans and greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon around them when they were born so in order to protect them they would gather there family members and shower them with gifts and giving them well wishes, they also made a lot noise to ward off the bad spirits.
Remember each society was conquerd by another an they took on their gods and traditions.
Don't take my word for it look it up for yourself.
New world encylepedia or go to the library an look for the book ancient gods.
if you participate in this you are just carrying on the tradition.its pegan or cult or whatever you choose to call it.

Since: Mar 11

#2502 Feb 12, 2013
Oh the Christholes steal everything they can even if it's nailed down like their Jewsus.
emperorjohn wrote:
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Don't forget Christmas, another pagan holiday stolen by Christatrds.

Since: Apr 08

UK

#2503 Feb 12, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Granted. The first *theoretical* calculation of pi was by Archimedes around 200BC. He obtained 3+10/71 <pi<3+1/7. The latter is the oft-used 22/7 for the approximation.
How sloppy of the supreme being of our universe - his magnum opus contains a less accurate ratio for Pi than that worked out by Archimedes.

Since: Dec 12

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#2504 Feb 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes and the entire Jesus myth in the bible was stolen from the same pagan gods. The entire thing. Saying amen at the end of a prayer is a praise to the Egyptian god Amen Ra.
I bet your cult magazine the watchtower left that info out didn't it?
Speaking of pagan go look at the grave of Taze Russell the founder of the JW cult. It doesn't look very Christian does it? More like a Horus worshipper.
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amen means it shall be done it has nothing to with an egyptian God.

Russell was just aman who studied the bible andwanted to understand the real meaning of it. no one worshipped russell they were all just bible students..

the difference between Jehovah witnesses and other christian denominationsthat when they find error they correct it whille the other denominatiins do not..

im aware that the watchtowers used tonhave egyptian signs the magazine but when did more reseaech they corrected.

they also use to celebrate holidays but they corrected that also.

if you read the bible , Jesus and his deciples and the first century christians did the exact same thing as Jehovahs witnesses...

Isaih 43:10 10 Â“YOU are my witnesses,Â” is the utterance of Jehovah,Â“even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 IÂ—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.Â”

i think is very interesting that acknowledge Gods name. The king james had the name inside up until the 90s when the religious leaders declared it was to confusing for people..

im not jehovah witness but when i studied with them i could see that they going exactly by the bible ..
they do the exact thing jesus was doing...
the original christians were not liked
because they didnt participate in the roman festivals,worship or the pegan traditions we see today.

Thr majority of christendom goes by man made traditions that have nothing to do the bible but everything to do with themselves.

Jesus was real, so was pontius pilate and ceasar the two princes named in jeremiah 38:1 were found on coins in the excavation of jerusalem.

the bible was composed over long period of time. the bible mentions so many human behaviors and traits,

im 100% sure the bible prophecies are going to happen..

they are happening now. look at society as whole and how degraded its gotten.

we have always had crime and corruption but now its on grand scale.

atheist really do not have to do all protestingd about religion because the bible fortells its end.
The U.N is going to end it.

it will happen out nowhere and it shock people.
all the bible does is warn people its not here make ppl serve God.

Human rule has not brought us happiness,
if it wasnt for Jesus humans would have killed themselves a long time ago .

Our world is corrupt.
Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#2505 Feb 13, 2013
Bollocks.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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amen means it shall be done it has nothing to with an egyptian God.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#2506 Feb 13, 2013
Sorry but amen has it's roots traced back to the Egyptian god Ra.

Taze Russell was a conman who sold miracle wheat! Lmfao!

Your cult used to think putting Egyptian symbols all over it's propaganda was a good idea? That it looked Christian? Maybe that is a clue that they never were Christian and weren't even pretending to be? Taze Russell has a pyramid and strange symbols all over his self designed memorial stone. Again it looks like a Horus worshipper's grave not a Christian.

Again why aren't you a JW since you keep drooling over their non-Christian junk?

Early Christians were not hated because they didn't participate in Hellenistic holidays! They were hates because they were standing on the street screaming how their god Jesus was not only the messiah but the god of Abraham. This infuriated the Jews, naturally and causes problems because they were condemning people of other faiths to hell.

Zero historical proof for Jesus. And just because the bible mentions real people doesn't make it's fairy tales real.

Look at society? Yes indeed it has never been better. People live longer healthier lives, education has never been better,medical advances are saving thousands of more lives per second than Jesus saves his entire life even if he existed and the bible myths were true.

But for your sales pitch it's obvious you are not buying what that JW cult is selling, hell deep inside you know they are a cult which is why you refuse to join, yes?

For over 2000 years people have been screaming about the end of the world, Christians stole that from certain Jewish sects. Hasn't happened even though the end is always nigh according to your lot.

:)
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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amen means it shall be done it has nothing to with an egyptian God.
Russell was just aman who studied the bible
im aware that the watchtowers used tonhave egyptian signs the magazine but when did more reseaech they corrected.
they also use to celebrate holidays but they corrected.
im not jehovah witness
the original christians were not liked
because they didnt participate in the roman festivals,worship or the pegan traditions.
Jesus was real, so was pontius pilate and ceasar the two princes named in jeremiah 38:1 were found on coins in the excavation of jerusalem.
the bible was composed over long period of time.
they are happening now. look at society as whole and how degraded its gotten.
we have always had crime and corruption but now its on grand scale.
Our world is corrupt.

Since: Dec 11

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#2507 Feb 13, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
im 100% sure the bible prophecies are going to happen..
Why? The Bible has prophecies that are known to be false.

The Prophet Ezekiel predicted that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre, but he failed in his siege.

Jesus was supposed to bring about the Messianic Age, but he failed.

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