Noah's flood real

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2251 Jan 13, 2013
KJV wrote:
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It's his call. It's his rules on his creation.
Yeah, I suppose he gets to try again when he phuques up

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2252 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Yet the dinosaurs of our oceans were big and small.
And we're not just talking dinosaurs, we're also talking about millions (maybe billions) of species that are now extinct including a variety of fauna.
All because your god decided that they (but not other species) had to die in a flood.
Actually the deluge had to get rid of the wicked angels and the nephilims their hybrid offspring
Yahweh or Jehovah had to make a way for the promised seed

If he didnt cause the deluge everyone who wanted to serve him would have been killed.

Also the dinosaurs would not have been able to survive mankind. Before the flood it never rained.the planet was not like it use to be they would have died anyway.

If you want blame someone it should adamand eve. And above all
Satan and the angels that followed him.
Genesis 6:3,4
God did not want to destroy his creations which is why he was sad. When he said flesh has ruined itself

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#2253 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>Actually the deluge had to get rid of the wicked angels and the nephilims their hybrid offspring
Yahweh or Jehovah had to make a way for the promised seed

If he didnt cause the deluge everyone who wanted to serve him would have been killed.

Also the dinosaurs would not have been able to survive mankind. Before the flood it never rained.the planet was not like it use to be they would have died anyway.

If you want blame someone it should adamand eve. And above all
Satan and the angels that followed him.
Genesis 6:3,4
God did not want to destroy his creations which is why he was sad. When he said flesh has ruined itself
I just can't imagine living in today's modern world and holding those kinds of ideas in my head.

Does this kind of stuff ever come up in conversation with real people, or just in church?

Do you ever talk about it at work?

Does your whole immediate and extended family believe like this?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#2254 Jan 14, 2013
Nine inch nails, allegedly.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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Haha no i have fake nails like a pedi and medicure
I doubt jesus had long nails lol
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#2255 Jan 14, 2013
Are you still crapping on about Adam and Eve? Give it a rest, god, you grudging POS. Let it go.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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Actually the deluge had to get rid of the wicked angels and the nephilims their hybrid offspring
Yahweh or Jehovah had to make a way for the promised seed
If he didnt cause the deluge everyone who wanted to serve him would have been killed.
Also the dinosaurs would not have been able to survive mankind. Before the flood it never rained.the planet was not like it use to be they would have died anyway.
If you want blame someone it should adamand eve. And above all
Satan and the angels that followed him.
Genesis 6:3,4
God did not want to destroy his creations which is why he was sad. When he said flesh has ruined itself

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2256 Jan 14, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist.
You seriously are whacked. Things that don't exist, leave no evidence of their nonexistence. The lack of evidence is the proof that it doesn't not exist, but finding a barrel of this non existent non evidence is like trying to prove Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. Oh wait, both of them leave concrete evidence .... it's the gods who can't even accomplish that. Conclusion: Santa .. real, tooth fairy .. real, gods .. not so much.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2257 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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If you want blame someone it should adamand eve.
No, it's just Eve.

The Bible says it was all her fault.

"For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"

1 Timothy 2:13-14

No wonder God thinks that all your gender is good for is having babies.

"But women will be saved through childbearing..."

1 Timothy 2:15
KJV

United States

#2258 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>Genesis 10
Records the first city of mesopatania which is translated the land between two rivers.

If you read mathews 24 Jesus s deciples asked him when will be the sign of his presence which starts the last days because satan and his demons were abyssed tonthe earth..

Whiich is why when he prayed he said let your kingdom come let your will take place in heaven and on earth ....

He also notes that last days will be marked by food shortages great earthquakes one after another

If you look at human society as a whole humans are a taught a more selfish me first attitude , the institution of marriage has fallen due to unscriptual divorce or mistreatment of women.

Jesus said in mathew 24 that nation will rise against nation kingdom against kingdom that prohecy was fullfilled .
Also food shortages, atbthe time of war war 1 their was food shortage in russia and other countries.

Today its a major food shortage so bad the nations have to make artificial clouds made from harmful chemicals.

which is why aritificial food is being made because in reality their is not enough food tonfeed the masses.

The earth can produce food but because of the greed of humans that will never be .

If you look at past centuries, humans in 20 , 21 century have manage to damage the earth in a very short period of time

Satan knows he very short period time and he and his demons are ruining the earth

Look at grigoru rasputin he had mysterious healing powers.. He prophecied the exact end of the russian monarchy if they killed him and he prophecied the events of war world 1 before it happened

They poison with cyanide a large amount,he didnt die, he was shot in the skull he still wasnt dead.. Then he shout multiple times. He still wasnt
Dead.
Theybtossed his body in river
He only expired because he was frozen .he was being controlled by a demon.

Read about him grigori rasputin
the only person who healed and proohecied future events was jesus and he was Gods son.

If someone else is doing that then theynare being inspired by wicked angels or demons.

As
Nice post!

I'm currently reading the book "The Passion of the Last Tsar and Tsarina"
Alix and Nicky. By Virginia Rounding.

It's quite informative about Rasputin and his relation ship with the Tsar.
KJV

United States

#2259 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>Actually the deluge had to get rid of the wicked angels and the nephilims their hybrid offspring
Yahweh or Jehovah had to make a way for the promised seed

If he didnt cause the deluge everyone who wanted to serve him would have been killed.

Also the dinosaurs would not have been able to survive mankind. Before the flood it never rained.the planet was not like it use to be they would have died anyway.

If you want blame someone it should adamand eve. And above all
Satan and the angels that followed him.
Genesis 6:3,4
God did not want to destroy his creations which is why he was sad. When he said flesh has ruined itself
Thank for input on this form.
Your posts are greatly appreciated.
KJV

United States

#2260 Jan 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>I just can't imagine living in today's modern world and holding those kinds of ideas in my head.

Does this kind of stuff ever come up in conversation with real people, or just in church?

Do you ever talk about it at work?

Does your whole immediate and extended family believe like this?
Well I don't about these Topics I
Generally talk about science fraud
And their mythical believes of
Things like spontaneous life.

The idea of rain falling on rocks creating life! LOL
KJV

United States

#2261 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Nine inch nails, allegedly.
They used the measurement "inches"
back then did they?
KJV

United States

#2262 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Are you still crapping on about Adam and Eve? Give it a rest, god, you grudging POS. Let it go.
Please explain your believe in spontaneous life.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2263 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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No, it's just Eve.
The Bible says it was all her fault.
"For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"
1 Timothy 2:13-14
No wonder God thinks that all your gender is good for is having babies.
"But women will be saved through childbearing..."
1 Timothy 2:15
Those scriptures note that she was decieved but Adam was given the law and ain didnt he spread until he ate the fruit.

Your taking those scriptures out of context.
Adam blamed eve and and eve blamed the snake.
They both desired the fruit .

They did not care.if the accounts closely you can discern that it was Adams fault..

they both desired the fruit.
notice if younread genesis the sin didnt take effect until adam ate the fruit.

If he loved Eve he could have asked God to forgive her but he didnt

It the same today when ppl unprotected sex or commit murder.they know that unprotexted sex can lead to stds like hiv or unwanted bacteria but they do it anyway because they desire it.
The same with murderers.

The bible says thatbeach one is drawn out and enticed by their own desire. When that desire becomes fertile it gives birth to sin and sin leads to death james 1:14,15.

which ia why romans 5: 12 notes " that is why ,justbas through one man sin enteres intonthe world and death through sin and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"

The pointnof jesus coming was to take the place as adam. So that all humans can be forgiven .
I
God only goes according to his law. He cant disobey his own laws or else he would be a hypocrite and a liar.

satan is the ruler of this world and its obvious that we live in an ungodly world since those religious leaders who claim to be servants of Gid but yet arebinvolved in war violence sex acandals lies and lawsuits.

Aounce like the pharicees and saduucees of jesus day who were involved in politics and mistreating their own ppl

And jerusalem was destroyed by the romans which jesus prophecied before he died.
He also prophecied the last days in our day.

The only prophecies that havent happened is the pronouncement of peace and security by tbe nations and the when nations or U.N Turn on religion.
KJV

United States

#2264 Jan 14, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>You seriously are whacked. Things that don't exist, leave no evidence of their nonexistence. The lack of evidence is the proof that it doesn't not exist, but finding a barrel of this non existent non evidence is like trying to prove Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. Oh wait, both of them leave concrete evidence .... it's the gods who can't even accomplish that. Conclusion: Santa .. real, tooth fairy .. real, gods .. not so much.
Why did Stephen Hawking just add over a billion years to the age of the universe? He added 1.3 billion years just at the drop of a hat. Like it was no big thing. But that's how science works isn't it, when things start not making sense they just add a billion or more years for their slower magic to work.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2265 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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Those scriptures note that she was decieved but Adam was given the law and ain didnt he spread until he ate the fruit.
Your taking those scriptures out of context.
Adam blamed eve and and eve blamed the snake.
They both desired the fruit .
They did not care.if the accounts closely you can discern that it was Adams fault..
they both desired the fruit.
notice if younread genesis the sin didnt take effect until adam ate the fruit.
If he loved Eve he could have asked God to forgive her but he didnt
It the same today when ppl unprotected sex or commit murder.they know that unprotexted sex can lead to stds like hiv or unwanted bacteria but they do it anyway because they desire it.
The same with murderers.
The bible says thatbeach one is drawn out and enticed by their own desire. When that desire becomes fertile it gives birth to sin and sin leads to death james 1:14,15.
which ia why romans 5: 12 notes " that is why ,justbas through one man sin enteres intonthe world and death through sin and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"
The pointnof jesus coming was to take the place as adam. So that all humans can be forgiven .
I
God only goes according to his law. He cant disobey his own laws or else he would be a hypocrite and a liar.
satan is the ruler of this world and its obvious that we live in an ungodly world since those religious leaders who claim to be servants of Gid but yet arebinvolved in war violence sex acandals lies and lawsuits.
Aounce like the pharicees and saduucees of jesus day who were involved in politics and mistreating their own ppl
And jerusalem was destroyed by the romans which jesus prophecied before he died.
He also prophecied the last days in our day.
The only prophecies that havent happened is the pronouncement of peace and security by tbe nations and the when nations or U.N Turn on religion.
The scriptures you quote are taken out of context.
KJV

United States

#2266 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's just Eve.

The Bible says it was all her fault.

"For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"

1 Timothy 2:13-14

No wonder God thinks that all your gender is good for is having babies.

"But women will be saved through childbearing..."

1 Timothy 2:15
No you have that wrong. Eve was deceived but Adam knowing full well what he was doing choose to disobey God and ate the fruit. It was Adam who brought sin and death into the world.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2267 Jan 14, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did Stephen Hawking just add over a billion years to the age of the universe? He added 1.3 billion years just at the drop of a hat. Like it was no big thing. But that's how science works isn't it, when things start not making sense they just add a billion or more years for their slower magic to work.
Consider it another level of accuracy.

"Suppose you have a length of wood and you want to measure it. First, you use a yard stick with markings only on the feet, and find that the wood is 7 feet long. Then you decide to use a better ruler and find the wood is 7 feet 2 inches long. Then you decide to use a better one and find it is 7 feet 2 1/4 inches long. You can never reach the truth (the exact size) because you don't have a prefect measuring device, but are all the measurements *false*? No, they are better and better approximations to the truth.

This is how science works: you figure things out at one level of accuracy and see how far you can understand things there. Then, after you get better instruments and better techniques, you look again and see if what you previously did works at the new level of accuracy. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't, you have to modify your ideas, but the lower level of accuracy still works! So rather than being completely wrong, the older scientific ideas are actually just good approximations and have been refined by new abilities.

This has happened multiple times in science. Newtonian physics gives a very good description of how planets move, how buildings stand, and many phenomena at the ordinary level of human existence. But, as we probed deeper, we found that it doesn't work for very small things (like atoms and smaller) or very fast things (close to the speed of light) or very strong gravitational fields (like around black holes). So, it had to be refined to account for these new observations. This lead to relativity and quantum mechanics. Did this make Newton's theories *false*? In one sense, yes, but in a practical sense not. We still use Newtonian physics to send probes to the moon, to design cars, etc, because it is an extremely good *approximation*.

This is the strength of science: it can adjust to new and more refined observations while preserving the work previously done. We can realize that we *never* have the exact truth, but can find better and better approximations as we study more.
Religion, on the other hand, claims an absolute truth at the beginning. It either ignores new evidence, or modifies its beliefs (silently!) while claiming nothing has changed. By refusing to acknowledge ignorance and adapt to new information, it becomes dogmatic and dangerous. By insisting that all those who believe other things are evil, it, itself, becomes evil. By claiming certain knowledge, it gives up on the path of wisdom all together."

Anon

There, don't you think that's much better than magic?

Lol

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2268 Jan 14, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
No you have that wrong. Eve was deceived but Adam knowing full well what he was doing choose to disobey God and ate the fruit. It was Adam who brought sin and death into the world.
I'm only quoting what it says.

Perhaps you should take it up with the author.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2269 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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The scriptures you quote are taken out of context.
rev 18:21 “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.+ 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again,+ and no craftsman of any trade* will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again, 23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again;+ because your traveling merchants+ were the top-ranking men+ of the earth, for by your spiritistic+ practice* all the nations were misled. 24 Yes, in her was found the blood+ of prophets+ and of holy ones+ and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”+

rev 17 : 15 And he says to me:“The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds* and nations and tongues.+ 16 And the ten horns+ that you saw, and the wild beast,+ these will hate the harlot+ and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire

if yu read revelation chapter 16,17,18 and 19 or even just the scriptures i have quoted, The only organziation it could be talking about that sits on many waters no matter what nation orlanguage is religion.

it is evident it is talking about religion. Religion is very rich and nations do have weddings and marriages inside of the them and they do live in shameless luxuary look at the pope
and leaders of islam christendom,islam buddhism,jews the religions leaders are ussually always involved with goverments and kings of the earth,

I can send you the whole chapters of revelation 16,17 18 and 19
or you can read it yourself.

based on these pro[hecies it made me believe the bible is definetl not a story.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2270 Jan 14, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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rev 18:21 “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.+ 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again,+ and no craftsman of any trade* will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again, 23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again;+ because your traveling merchants+ were the top-ranking men+ of the earth, for by your spiritistic+ practice* all the nations were misled. 24 Yes, in her was found the blood+ of prophets+ and of holy ones+ and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”+
rev 17 : 15 And he says to me:“The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds* and nations and tongues.+ 16 And the ten horns+ that you saw, and the wild beast,+ these will hate the harlot+ and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire
if yu read revelation chapter 16,17,18 and 19 or even just the scriptures i have quoted, The only organziation it could be talking about that sits on many waters no matter what nation orlanguage is religion.
it is evident it is talking about religion. Religion is very rich and nations do have weddings and marriages inside of the them and they do live in shameless luxuary look at the pope
and leaders of islam christendom,islam buddhism,jews the religions leaders are ussually always involved with goverments and kings of the earth,
I can send you the whole chapters of revelation 16,17 18 and 19
or you can read it yourself.
based on these pro[hecies it made me believe the bible is definetl not a story.
Sorry.

It's a load of superstitious mumbo jumbo.

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