Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#2139 Jan 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
That's all anyone is here for. Your pathetic little atheist are not worth any series effort. No amount of evidence would sway your Believes so why bother? We all just come here to show you how sick your little all science faith really is. Your good for a few good laughs.
Ah, so now you guys have moved on from "atheism is a faith" to "science is a faith"

The bizarre, never ending need for religious people to think non-religious people actually MUST have a religion of some sort that they are keeping secret.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#2140 Jan 6, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, so now you guys have moved on from "atheism is a faith" to "science is a faith"
The bizarre, never ending need for religious people to think non-religious people actually MUST have a religion of some sort that they are keeping secret.
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it" ~ Morpheus

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#2141 Jan 6, 2013
Aw that was very kind of you. Langoliers is a stupid screen name anyways that he stole from a really bad made for TV movie. And before he says it langoliers has no meaning in the Russian language, I speak some basic conversational Russian have an English to Russian dictionary as well as a handful of Russian friends. I asked four different born in Russia perfectly fluent in the language and not one of them had ever heard that term be it when I spoke it or showed them on my phone.

He fails again. As predicted :)
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
I love you, I truly do. Now f*ck off creationist troll. I'm saying that because I love you, I'snt that why your cult judges everyone as sinners? because deep down they love everyone??
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#2142 Jan 7, 2013
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Langoliers wrote:
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Yes

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2143 Jan 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you considered not typing while you're drunk?
I have nails and im typing from my iphone...

Thats not easy at all.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#2144 Jan 7, 2013
The chump is just scampering :))
Thinking wrote:
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Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#2145 Jan 8, 2013
As did jesus.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
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I have nails...

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2147 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Again bullshit, nobody gets to play zombie, not even your Jewsus.
Will you eat your child, when your god tells you to?
He does not make up harsh rules..... Jehovah ( yahweh ( hebrew) would never ask someone to kill their child... That orginates from false worship

The bible was made so that he could warn people of the future events... The pronouncement of peace and security ( which is a lie)
The end of false religion .. and when the nations try to attack and kill his people which will start armghedon

Which is just God defending his people .because God restricts his ppl of taking up arms hurting their neighbor.

When this happens people will know who they really are on the inside..

The bible just teaches people how to act..

Satan and demons are going to be abyssed

People are going crazy turning on eachother killing eachother..

Jehovah the God of the bible is just warning people..

Gods purpose is to save lives....he is not trying to hurt but save ppl.. Thats why he sent Jesus to show how a servant of God is suppose to be.

Jesus was humble mild tempered he was not violent . he is Gods first born and he was willing to be a lowly human and die for us...

Why would someone just make up the bible?
All those books were wrriten and compossed at different times and it mentions real civiliazations not to mentions a brief summary of the earth was formed...

Moses wrote genesis how did he know ?
The bible shows mesopatamia ( the land between two rivers) and many more
who would go through all of this?..

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2148 Jan 9, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
He does not make up harsh rules..... Jehovah ( yahweh ( hebrew) would never ask someone to kill their child... That orginates from false worship
The bible was made so that he could warn people of the future events... The pronouncement of peace and security ( which is a lie)
The end of false religion .. and when the nations try to attack and kill his people which will start armghedon
Which is just God defending his people .because God restricts his ppl of taking up arms hurting their neighbor.
When this happens people will know who they really are on the inside..
The bible just teaches people how to act..
Satan and demons are going to be abyssed
People are going crazy turning on eachother killing eachother..
Jehovah the God of the bible is just warning people..
Gods purpose is to save lives....he is not trying to hurt but save ppl.. Thats why he sent Jesus to show how a servant of God is suppose to be.
Jesus was humble mild tempered he was not violent . he is Gods first born and he was willing to be a lowly human and die for us...
Why would someone just make up the bible?
All those books were wrriten and compossed at different times and it mentions real civiliazations not to mentions a brief summary of the earth was formed...
Moses wrote genesis how did he know ?
The bible shows mesopatamia ( the land between two rivers) and many more
who would go through all of this?..
It originates from the bible, nothing more false than that. LOL!

The non-violent Jesus killed three people, and a fig tree. He went balistic on a bunch of moneychangers, and dealt Mary and Joseph pure misery.

And being the bastard that he is, he will also spend eternity in hell.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2149 Jan 9, 2013
.. and Moses didn't know. Just ask an Egyptian, and they will say "Moses who?". No exodus ... go figure.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#2150 Jan 10, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It originates from the bible, nothing more false than that. LOL!
The non-violent Jesus killed three people, and a fig tree. He went balistic on a bunch of moneychangers, and dealt Mary and Joseph pure misery.
And being the bastard that he is, he will also spend eternity in hell.
Jesus did not kill anyone.
The apostle paul saw met jesus.

Paul was killed for preaching the news jesus told his deciples to do.
The first century christians were persecuted because they did not supportnthe violence ofbthe roman empire

It wasnt until after the third did false prophets rose to turn people away from the truth

Hellfire, everlasting torture, immortal souls hell

Those are all myths. The word hellnin greek just means the common grave.. The gehenna just means death also.

Christianity practice today is not real but false.
jesus of nazzarus was peaceful and innocent.

Jesus said at matthew 24 that after the faithful apostles died false prophets would arise twisting the scriptures for their own selfish gain .

Which is why false religion will be done away with. But before that Jesus said hood news of Gods kingdom wouldnbe preachednin all the nations..

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#2151 Jan 10, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
He does not make up harsh rules..... Jehovah ( yahweh ( hebrew) would never ask someone to kill their child... That orginates from false worship
The bible was made so that he could warn people of the future events... The pronouncement of peace and security ( which is a lie)
The end of false religion .. and when the nations try to attack and kill his people which will start armghedon
Which is just God defending his people .because God restricts his ppl of taking up arms hurting their neighbor.
When this happens people will know who they really are on the inside..
The bible just teaches people how to act..
Satan and demons are going to be abyssed
People are going crazy turning on eachother killing eachother..
Jehovah the God of the bible is just warning people..
Gods purpose is to save lives....he is not trying to hurt but save ppl.. Thats why he sent Jesus to show how a servant of God is suppose to be.
Jesus was humble mild tempered he was not violent . he is Gods first born and he was willing to be a lowly human and die for us...
Why would someone just make up the bible?
All those books were wrriten and compossed at different times and it mentions real civiliazations not to mentions a brief summary of the earth was formed...
Moses wrote genesis how did he know ?
The bible shows mesopatamia ( the land between two rivers) and many more
who would go through all of this?..
Prove any of this regigious horsesh*t there's a good lying theist.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#2152 Jan 10, 2013
Funny in the other thread you claimed to not be a godbot but here you are in full godbot mode. Jesus of where? Did you mean Jesus of Nazareth by chance? By the way Nazareth didn't even exist until the mid to late second century so he couldn't have come from there. Not to mention we have no proof that this Jesus even existed.
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus did not kill anyone.
The apostle paul saw met jesus.
Paul was killed for preaching the news jesus told his deciples to do.
The first century christians were persecuted because they did not supportnthe violence ofbthe roman empire
It wasnt until after the third did false prophets rose to turn people away from the truth
Hellfire, everlasting torture, immortal souls hell
Those are all myths. The word hellnin greek just means the common grave.. The gehenna just means death also.
Christianity practice today is not real but false.
jesus of nazzarus was peaceful and innocent.
Jesus said at matthew 24 that after the faithful apostles died false prophets would arise twisting the scriptures for their own selfish gain .
Which is why false religion will be done away with. But before that Jesus said hood news of Gods kingdom wouldnbe preachednin all the nations..

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2153 Jan 10, 2013
Yellowknightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus did not kill anyone.
The apostle paul saw met jesus.
Paul was killed for preaching the news jesus told his deciples to do.
The first century christians were persecuted because they did not supportnthe violence ofbthe roman empire
It wasnt until after the third did false prophets rose to turn people away from the truth
Hellfire, everlasting torture, immortal souls hell
Those are all myths. The word hellnin greek just means the common grave.. The gehenna just means death also.
Christianity practice today is not real but false.
jesus of nazzarus was peaceful and innocent.
Jesus said at matthew 24 that after the faithful apostles died false prophets would arise twisting the scriptures for their own selfish gain .
Which is why false religion will be done away with. But before that Jesus said hood news of Gods kingdom wouldnbe preachednin all the nations..
I suggest you do a bit of studying, try the bible, the lost books of the bible, the Koran, and the Torah, then you will be able to carry on a discussion here.

from THOMAS'S GOSPEL of the INFANCY of JESUS CHRIST
7. Another time Jesus went forth into the street, and a boy running by, rushed upon his shoulder;

8. At which Jesus being angry, said to him, thou shalt go no farther.

9. And he instantly fell down dead:

10. Which when some persons saw, they said, Where was this boy born, that everything which he says presently cometh to pass?

11. Then the parents of the dead buy going to Joseph complained, saying, You are not fit to live with us, in our city, having such a boy as that:

12. Either teach him that he bless and not curse, or else depart hence with him, for he kills our children.

13. Then Joseph calling the boy Jesus by himself, instructed him saying, Why doest thou such things to injure the people so, that they hate us and prosecute us?

14. But Jesus replied, I know that what thou sayest is not of thyself, but for thy sake I will say nothing;

15. But they who have said these things to thee, shall suffer everlasting punishment.

16. And immediately they who had accused him became blind.

17. And all they who saw it were exceedingly afraid and confounded, and said concerning him, Whatsoever he saith, whether good or bad, immediately cometh to pass: and they were amazed.

18. And when they saw this action of Christ, Joseph arose, and plucked him by the ear, at which the boy was angry, and said to him, Be easy;

19 .For if they seek for us, they shall not find us: thou hast done very imprudently.

20. Dost thou not know that I am thine? Trouble me no more.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/lbob/lbob08.h...
KJV

United States

#2156 Jan 10, 2013
Archaeologist claims evidence of Noah’s biblical flood
Published December 12, 2012FoxNews.

First he found the Titanic -- will he find the only ship more famous?

Robert Ballard, the underwater archaeologist famed for discovering the wreck of the Titanic in 1985, claims to have found evidence of the biblical flood that Noah fled, surfing the waters for 40 days and 40 nights, according to Genesis. He says the Black Sea was once merely a freshwater lake -- until an enormous wall of water from the Mediterranean 200 times more powerful than Niagara Falls swept it and everything else away. Including Noah and his ark.

"We went in there to look for the flood," Ballard told ABC News. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed ... the land that went under stayed under."

'The questions is, was there a mother of all floods?'
- Archaeologist Robert Ballard

The archaeologist’s team is studying the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of a civilization lost since biblical times, ABC reported, following up on a controversial theory from two Columbia University scientists. They connect the end of an Ice Age, when frozen sheets covered North America and stretched to the North Pole."
KJV

United States

#2157 Jan 10, 2013
New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened

By JENNA MILLMAN, BRYAN TAYLOR and LAUREN EFFRON (@LEffron831) Dec 28, 2012, 11:39 AM

The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.

ABC News
In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Robert Ballard, one of the world's best-known underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is probing the depths of the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time of Noah.

Ballard's track record for finding the impossible is well known. In 1985, using a robotic submersible equipped with remote-controlled cameras, Ballard and his crew hunted down the world's most famous shipwreck, the Titanic.

Now Ballard is using even more advanced robotic technology to travel farther back in time. He is on a marine archeological mission that might support the story of Noah. He said some 12,000 years ago, much of the world was covered in ice.

"Where I live in Connecticut was ice a mile above my house, all the way back to the North Pole, about 15 million kilometers, that's a big ice cube," he said. "But then it started to melt. We're talking about the floods of our living history."

The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.

"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.

According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.

Fascinated by the idea, Ballard and his team decided to investigate.

"We went in there to look for the flood," he said. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed... The land that went under stayed under."
KJV

United States

#2158 Jan 10, 2013
Part 2

"

Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred.

"It probably was a bad day," Ballard said. "At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land, went under."

The theory goes on to suggest that the story of this traumatic event, seared into the collective memory of the survivors, was passed down from generation to generation and eventually inspired the biblical account of Noah.

Noah is described in the Bible as a family man, a father of three, who is about to celebrate his 600th birthday.

"In the early chapters of Genesis, people live 800 years, 700 years, 900 years," said Rabbi Burt Visotzky, a professor of Talmud and Rabbinics at the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York. "Those are mythic numbers, those are way too big. We don't quite know what to do with that. So sometimes those large numbers, I think, also serve to reinforce the mystery of the text."

Some of the details of the Noah story seem mythical, so many biblical scholars believe the story of Noah and the Ark was inspired by the legendary flood stories of nearby Mesopotamia, in particular "The Epic of Gilgamesh." These ancient narratives were already being passed down from one generation to the next, centuries before Noah appeared in the Bible.

"The earlier Mesopotamian stories are very similar where the gods are sending a flood to wipe out humans," said biblical archaeologist Eric Cline. "There's one man they choose to survive. He builds a boat and brings on animals and lands on a mountain and lives happily ever after? I would argue that it's the same story."

Catastrophic events of this kind are not unique to the Bible. Some contemporary examples include the 2004 tsunami that wiped out villages on the coasts of 11 countries surrounding the Indian Ocean. There was also Hurricane Katrina, described as the worst hurricane in United States history."
KJV

United States

#2159 Jan 10, 2013
Part 3

"Scholars aren't sure if the biblical flood was larger or smaller than these modern day disasters, but they do think the experiences of people in ancient times were similar to our own.

"If you witness a terrible natural disaster, yes, you want a scientific explanation why this has happened," said Karen Armstrong, author of "A History of God." "But you also need to something that will help you to assuage your grief and anguish and rage. And it is here that myth helps us through that."

Regardless of whether the details of the Noah story are historically accurate, Armstrong believes this story and all the Biblical stories are telling us "about our predicament in the world now."

Back in the Black Sea, Ballard said he is aware that not everyone agrees with his conclusions about the time and size of the flood, but he's confident he's on the path to finding something from the biblical period.

"We started finding structures that looked like they were man-made structures," Ballard said. "That's where we are focusing our attention right now."

At first Ballard's team found piles of ancient pottery, but then they made an even more important discovery. Last year, Ballard discovered a vessel and one of its crew members in the Black Sea.

"That is a perfectly preserved ancient shipwreck in all its wood, looks like a lumber yard," he said. "But if you look closely, you will see the femur bone and actually a molar."

The shipwreck was in surprisingly good condition, preserved because the Black Sea has almost no oxygen in it, which slows down the process of decay, but it does not date back as far as the story of Noah.

"The oldest shipwreck that we have discovered so far of that area is around 500 BC, classical period," Ballard said. "But the question is you just keep searching. It's a matter of statistics."

Still, Ballard said the find gives him hope that he will discover something older "because there, in fact, the deep sea is the largest museum on Earth," he said.

Ballard does not think he will ever find Noah's Ark, but he does think he may find evidence of a people whose entire world was washed away about 7,000 years ago. He and his team said they plan to return to Turkey next summer.

"It's foolish to think you will ever find a ship," Ballard said, referring to the Ark. "But can you find people who were living? Can you find their villages that are underwater now? And the answer is yes."
KJV

United States

#2161 Jan 10, 2013
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#2162 Jan 10, 2013
Bollocks.
KJV wrote:
Part 3
"Scholars aren't sure if the biblical flood was larger or smaller than these modern day disasters, but they do think the experiences of people in ancient times were similar to our own.
"If you witness a terrible natural disaster, yes, you want a scientific explanation why this has happened," said Karen Armstrong, author of "A History of God." "But you also need to something that will help you to assuage your grief and anguish and rage. And it is here that myth helps us through that."
Regardless of whether the details of the Noah story are historically accurate, Armstrong believes this story and all the Biblical stories are telling us "about our predicament in the world now."
Back in the Black Sea, Ballard said he is aware that not everyone agrees with his conclusions about the time and size of the flood, but he's confident he's on the path to finding something from the biblical period.
"We started finding structures that looked like they were man-made structures," Ballard said. "That's where we are focusing our attention right now."
At first Ballard's team found piles of ancient pottery, but then they made an even more important discovery. Last year, Ballard discovered a vessel and one of its crew members in the Black Sea.
"That is a perfectly preserved ancient shipwreck in all its wood, looks like a lumber yard," he said. "But if you look closely, you will see the femur bone and actually a molar."
The shipwreck was in surprisingly good condition, preserved because the Black Sea has almost no oxygen in it, which slows down the process of decay, but it does not date back as far as the story of Noah.
"The oldest shipwreck that we have discovered so far of that area is around 500 BC, classical period," Ballard said. "But the question is you just keep searching. It's a matter of statistics."
Still, Ballard said the find gives him hope that he will discover something older "because there, in fact, the deep sea is the largest museum on Earth," he said.
Ballard does not think he will ever find Noah's Ark, but he does think he may find evidence of a people whose entire world was washed away about 7,000 years ago. He and his team said they plan to return to Turkey next summer.
"It's foolish to think you will ever find a ship," Ballard said, referring to the Ark. "But can you find people who were living? Can you find their villages that are underwater now? And the answer is yes."

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