Asking the right questions of religious believers

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Punch-Angel

Chesterfield, MO

#345 Sep 23, 2012
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>You're going to >>have<< to do better than the Big Book of Hate (BuyBull).

That book is full of evil ideas, commands to murder and other disgusting acts of mayhem.

It cannot >>possibly<< be from an actual.... god.

Too corrupt.

Care to try again?

No?

Thought not.
I agree! I
Andre

Durban, South Africa

#346 Sep 24, 2012
England 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe Fundies lie more then the devil, and the definitely have a much lowerIQ then old nick
How much does the devil lie? IQ has anything to do with integrity? Read/listen to the news.
Using "fundies"/any person as the yardstick for Christianity is false as the only yardstick is the Bible itself. We are all guilty 1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#347 Sep 24, 2012
Andre wrote:
<quoted text>How much does the devil lie? IQ has anything to do with integrity? Read/listen to the news.
Using "fundies"/any person as the yardstick for Christianity is false as the only yardstick is the Bible itself. We are all guilty 1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
The bible is a terrible thing!!
It is morally bankrupt, historically flawed, and scientifically, a joke.
buck

AOL

#348 Sep 24, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible is a terrible thing!!
It is morally bankrupt, historically flawed, and scientifically, a joke.
Why did you even show up? You don't even know the topic of discussion which shows you are not that bright, well just look at the name you go by that says it in itself LOL
buck

AOL

#349 Sep 24, 2012
True Christian wrote:
There is much more evidence that a Creator is responsible for all life, and the heavens with its billions of galaxies, the oceans with all it's life and the vast insect world. Everything living in harmony and by procreation.
Everything being mathematically proven by Science, and most Scientists finally admitting there is a God, a designer and Creator, because of this evidence.
That doesn't make anyone godly, that just shows a persons intelligence, the Atheist is just a fool.
Thank you Oklahoma christian stay true!
buck

AOL

#350 Sep 24, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>
You made the statement.
Please present the evidence that you stated.
I will be kind and help out since you must be blind oh
very cynical person LOL
open your eyes if you're not really blind the evidence is looking right at you with creation duh!!!!
you cannot present evidence worth believing or that is believable of how everything came to be in existence without GOD.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#351 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did you even show up? You don't even know the topic of discussion which shows you are not that bright, well just look at the name you go by that says it in itself LOL
I wasn't posting to you, so don't worry about it.

I would be delighted to tell you exactly why my username is 100% correct. Learn what is in your idiotic book of fables, and an atheist won't have to explain it to you.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#352 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
<quoted text>
I will be kind and help out since you must be blind oh
very cynical person LOL
open your eyes if you're not really blind the evidence is looking right at you with creation duh!!!!
you cannot present evidence worth believing or that is believable of how everything came to be in existence without GOD.
What a gutless, cop-out answer.
No, you don't get a pass for bring an idiot. If the best evidence that you have is "gee, I don't understand, so that means magic god did it with magic woo-woo power", than you fail. That isn't evidence, that's ignorance. If that's the best you have, your god will be thrown on the heap with all the other silly myths. As well it should be.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#353 Sep 24, 2012
Andre wrote:
<quoted text>How much does the devil lie? IQ has anything to do with integrity? Read/listen to the news.
Using "fundies"/any person as the yardstick for Christianity is false as the only yardstick is the Bible itself. We are all guilty 1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Yes, lets look at the bible. According to that literary piece of garbage, not only is godd a lying piece of crap, but his make-believe son is too. Would you like me to post the proof, taken right out of the big book of fairy tales?
buck

AOL

#354 Sep 24, 2012
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG BOY! You are the one with the book of fables without explanations LOL
My book of beliefs is not titled "Idiotic book of Fables" LOL you just let your imagination run any
where it pleases.
This is a free forum anyone can reply or don't your have enough brainpower to figure that LOL
and I don't need YOU to explain anything maybe someone who has some wits can explain for you LOL
buck

AOL

#355 Sep 24, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
What a gutless, cop-out answer.
No, you don't get a pass for bring an idiot. If the best evidence that you have is "gee, I don't understand, so that means magic god did it with magic woo-woo power", than you fail. That isn't evidence, that's ignorance. If that's the best you have, your god will be thrown on the heap with all the other silly myths. As well it should be.
You have very poor eyesight or you cannot read too well
I NEVER SAID "Gee, I don't understand" those were your words out of your running wild imagination LOL
and I NEVER SAID it was "magic" once again your own words project what a not so bright person you are.
You have stated at least 2 lies about me you are the one who does not show good moral qualities and telling the truth is one good quality you lack at it is obvious.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#356 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG BOY! You are the one with the book of fables without explanations LOL
My book of beliefs is not titled "Idiotic book of Fables" LOL you just let your imagination run any
where it pleases.
This is a free forum anyone can reply or don't your have enough brainpower to figure that LOL
and I don't need YOU to explain anything maybe someone who has some wits can explain for you LOL
LOL!!! Poor little ignorant godbot. I guess abstact reading is too tough for a little godbot like you. Your little weeny book of lies and fables is titled The Holy Bible, and it is full of garbage, contradictions, and lies. It is about as useless as it gets. As for the free forum, I was posting in response to your ignorant question about what I am doing here. It looks like hypocrisy is your strong point. Lastly, you obviously DO need someone to explain the crap that is in the silly book of fables, as it is obvious that you lack the balls to really see what it says.

Let me know when you are ready to face the truth, we can talk about what is in the bible, and I'll spank you like a redheaded stepchild as far as it's ridiculous contents. You sissy little godbots are all the same. You claim that you know the truth, but you never seem ready to discuss it. LOL!!! Could you be a little more cowardly and pathetic?

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#357 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
<quoted text>
You have very poor eyesight or you cannot read too well
I NEVER SAID "Gee, I don't understand" those were your words out of your running wild imagination LOL
and I NEVER SAID it was "magic" once again your own words project what a not so bright person you are.
You have stated at least 2 lies about me you are the one who does not show good moral qualities and telling the truth is one good quality you lack at it is obvious.
Poor little ignorant godbot. It seems you aren't smart enough to know what paraphrase is. LOL!!!(Why do I bother?). Are you claiming that your silly god-myth created the universe and followed the laws of physics? HAHAHAHA!!!! LOL!!!!

So since you understand how the universe was created, why don't you explain it, and keep within the confines of physical law? LOL!!!! This should be good!!! Go ahead retard, lay it on me!!!LOL!!!! Remember, no magic, no supernatural power(That's magic). Tell how it came to be!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(Watch the godbot run away from this one)
buck

AOL

#358 Sep 24, 2012
I'm not running away ha ha back to you
it seems you're only good at name calling when you can't think of a good theory of how all came into existence with a reasonable and believable explanation and I don't plan on arguing with you.
that is the only thing people like you enjoy doing with religious people. it is a pitiful way to live.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#359 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
<quoted text>
I will be kind and help out since you must be blind oh
very cynical person LOL
open your eyes if you're not really blind the evidence is looking right at you with creation duh!!!!
you cannot present evidence worth believing or that is believable of how everything came to be in existence without GOD.
I did not make the statement as a fact you did. You made a statement that you have evidence and all I did is ask to see the evidence.

Yes you can present evidence worth believing if you have it. If you have no evidence that is testable and repeatable then I will look the evidence over and be honest about it.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#360 Sep 24, 2012
Sorry should be "If you have evidence".
buck

AOL

#361 Sep 24, 2012
you're too cynical LOL
do you walk around with your eyes closed?
Seriously do you? you don't understand what evidence is it is something you can SEE, TOUCH etc.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#362 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
I'm not running away ha ha back to you
it seems you're only good at name calling when you can't think of a good theory of how all came into existence with a reasonable and believable explanation and I don't plan on arguing with you.
that is the only thing people like you enjoy doing with religious people. it is a pitiful way to live.
As predicted, you ran away.
Buh-bye loser.

I always have to laugh at people like you. Your belief is so ignorant and childish, that you can't simply defend it. You have to resort to things like "think of a good theory of how all came into existence with a reasonable and believable explanation"... Why? If I couldn't, how does that prove that your god is real? You believe in a myth. Period. You can't come up with ANY evidence that this little weeny god of yours is real, so you want ME to explain to you how the universe came about? LOL!!!!! You're right, you are NOT going to argue with me. You can't argue with me because you have absolutlely NOTHING to argue with. Quit now little girl, you aren't nearly smart enough to talk about your ignorant belief.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#363 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
you're too cynical LOL
do you walk around with your eyes closed?
Seriously do you? you don't understand what evidence is it is something you can SEE, TOUCH etc.
So, are you claiming that because things exist, that proves there is a god???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Grow up!!

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#364 Sep 24, 2012
buck wrote:
you're too cynical LOL
do you walk around with your eyes closed?
Seriously do you? you don't understand what evidence is it is something you can SEE, TOUCH etc.
Evidence:

That which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

Something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.

Law . data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.

Can you see and touch your god?

I would state that it would seem that your eyes are blind to truth.

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