Hear, hear.<quoted text>
I don't think either man is dumb--there's a difference between stupidity and delusion. It's said that to make good people do bad things, it takes religion. I'd substitute delusion for religion to make it more general and say the same thing about smart people doing stupid things. We see the same thing here. We have some very smart apologists here using their intelligence to defend ideas that are indefensible. Their emotional attachments to their delusions overwhelm their rational abilities.
That's why this whole IQ argument is apropos of nothing. It's not about who is smarter, stronger, sexier or who can come up with the cleverest insult. It's about ideas and the logic that supports them--or fails to. It's about thinking before we write and moving forward rather than endlessly repeating variants of the same posts, of making interesting, original and unique contributions. I really wish more of us would at least try to do that.
I have tried on numerous times to start a reasoned discussion. It typically last about 1/2 day before the emotional posts start inundating the thread. And these "troll" posts always come from both sides of the debate.
I still try on occasions, but it gets frustrating to say the least.
For the most part I've gone to very sporadic posting when the person I'm replying to is just too egregious to ignore. Even then I don't try to engage with any expectation of adult conversation.