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“Life may be sweeter for this”
Since: Nov 08
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"Your position is that there is a god that has an important message for mankind, and somehow, he only reveals it to certain individuals who then write this down. And thousands of years after this initial revelation, we have to rely on copies of copies of translations of copies by anonymous authors with no originals. "[Regarding] a textual testimony to a miracle such as the loaves and fishes. there's no amount of reports - anecdotal testimonial reports - that could be sufficient to justify believing that this even actually happened as reported. No amount. "Anything that would qualify as a god would clearly understand this. And if it wanted to convey this information to people in a way that was believable would not be relying on text to do so. "This for me is the nail in the coffin for Christianity. The god that Christians believe in is amazingly stupid if it wants to actually achieve its goal of spreading this information to humanity by relying on text, by relying on languages that die off, by relying on anecdotal testimony. "That's not a pathway to truth. And anything that would qualify as a god should know this, which means either that god doesn't exist, or doesn't care enough about those people who understand the nature of evidence to actually present it." - Matt Dillahunty http://www.yo utube .com/watch?v=rJ6ru M7Muo8
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"Darwinism involves a way of thought in biology, and were it to go, it would take a great many assumptions along with it. Just think of vitalism, for example. To say a word in its favor is at once to be accused of the cheapest kind of intellectual sentimentality. We know better and if we do not know better, they do. But hold on, please do. If by vitalism one means something like the 19th century idea of a vital fluid that informs living systems, then I am with them. That is so much sentimentality. But if by vitalism one means the thesis that living systems cannot be completely explained in terms of their physics or their chemistry -- what then? Something must explain the difference, no? And if it is not a fluid, as naive 19th-century biologists sometimes thought, it does not follow that it is nothing." -David Berlinski
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“Why do creationists lie?”
Since: Jun 07
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Buck Crick wrote: "Darwinism involves a way of thought in biology, and were it to go, it would take a great many assumptions along with it. Just think of vitalism, for example. To say a word in its favor is at once to be accused of the cheapest kind of intellectual sentimentality. We know better and if we do not know better, they do. But hold on, please do. If by vitalism one means something like the 19th century idea of a vital fluid that informs living systems, then I am with them. That is so much sentimentality. But if by vitalism one means the thesis that living systems cannot be completely explained in terms of their physics or their chemistry -- what then? Something must explain the difference, no? And if it is not a fluid, as naive 19th-century biologists sometimes thought, it does not follow that it is nothing." -David Berlinski Creationist liar with no proof of god.
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Whatever
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-Skeptic- wrote: <quoted text> Creationist liar with no proof of god. Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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“ecrasez l'infame”
Since: May 08
Atlanta, Georgia
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Whatever wrote: <quoted text> Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 - "Prove all things" “We must conduct research and then accept the results. If they don't stand up to experimentation, Buddha's own words must be rejected.”~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama, 1988
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“Why do creationists lie?”
Since: Jun 07
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Whatever wrote: <quoted text> Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Religious liar with no proof of god. Stop deliberately lying to us and about us.
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“Why do creationists lie?”
Since: Jun 07
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Whatever wrote: <quoted text> Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: If you're so sure we're going to hell, try proving that rubbish before you shout it out.
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“Reason's Greetings”
Since: Feb 11
Pale Blue Dot
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Whatever wrote: <quoted text> Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. It sounds like you are all for your own First Amendment rights, but yet want to deny others their First Amendment rights. How hypocritical! But , that's judgmental xtains!
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“There is no such thing”
Since: May 08
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"Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it." Milton Friedman
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“There is no such thing”
Since: May 08
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"There’s nothing more natural than rape. Human beings rape, chimpanzees rape, orangutans rape, rape clearly is part of an evolutionary strategy to get your genes into the next generation if you’re a male. You can’t move from that Darwinian fact about us to defend rape as a good practice. I mean no-one would be tempted to do that; we have transcended that part of our evolutionary history in repudiating it" Sam Harris
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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”
Since: May 09
Earth,TX
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“Oh, that the wise from their bright minds would kindle Such lamps within the dome of this dim world That the pale name of priest might shrink and dwindle Into the Hell from which it first was furled.” — Percy Bysshe Shelley
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Buck Crick wrote: "Darwinism involves a way of thought in biology, and were it to go, it would take a great many assumptions along with it. Just think of vitalism, for example. To say a word in its favor is at once to be accused of the cheapest kind of intellectual sentimentality. We know better and if we do not know better, they do. But hold on, please do. If by vitalism one means something like the 19th century idea of a vital fluid that informs living systems, then I am with them. That is so much sentimentality. But if by vitalism one means the thesis that living systems cannot be completely explained in terms of their physics or their chemistry -- what then? Something must explain the difference, no? And if it is not a fluid, as naive 19th-century biologists sometimes thought, it does not follow that it is nothing." -David Berlinski No wonder you're so stupid. Look at what you read. Darwin is not an 'ism'. Darwin is the person who's observations began the process of scientifically proving the Theory of Evolution. Now it is a science of its own. What you have is crap.
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“Reason's Greetings”
Since: Feb 11
Pale Blue Dot
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redneck wrote: <quoted text>No wonder you're so stupid. Look at what you read. Darwin is not an 'ism'. Darwin is the person who's observations began the process of scientifically proving the Theory of Evolution. Now it is a science of its own. What you have is crap. He'll deserve the darwin award: "an award given to somebody who dies or steralizes themselves in a manner that is so stupid and reckless, they actually improve humanity's gene poll by removing themselves from it." http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
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“ecrasez l'infame”
Since: May 08
Atlanta, Georgia
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Lil Ticked wrote: "There’s nothing more natural than rape. Human beings rape, chimpanzees rape, orangutans rape, rape clearly is part of an evolutionary strategy to get your genes into the next generation if you’re a male. You can’t move from that Darwinian fact about us to defend rape as a good practice. I mean no-one would be tempted to do that; we have transcended that part of our evolutionary history in repudiating it" Sam Harris You supposed quote is one line out of context and surrounded by a bunch of hogwash. Here's the real quote when Dr. Harris compares the historical advantage of religion with the historical advantage of rape -- "As a biological phenomenon, religion is the product of cognitive processes that have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Some researchers have speculated that religion itself may have played an important role in getting large groups of prehistoric humans to socially cohere. If this is true, we can say that religion has served an important purpose. This does not suggest, however, that it serves an important purpose now. There is, after all, nothing more natural than rape. But no one would argue that rape is good, or compatible with a civil society, because it may have had evolutionary advantages for our ancestors. That religion may have served some necessary function for us in the past does not preclude the possibility that it is now the greatest impediment to our building a global civilization." ~ Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation
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Since: Mar 11
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Yes for a so called agnostic who shuns Christian beliefs that one certainly frequently uses Christian apologetic website arguments and statements routinely. Hmmmm Hedonist wrote: <quoted text> You supposed quote is one line out of context and surrounded by a bunch of hogwash. Here's the real quote when Dr. Harris compares the historical advantage of religion with the historical advantage of rape -- "As a biological phenomenon, religion is the product of cognitive processes that have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Some researchers have speculated that religion itself may have played an important role in getting large groups of prehistoric humans to socially cohere. If this is true, we can say that religion has served an important purpose. This does not suggest, however, that it serves an important purpose now. There is, after all, nothing more natural than rape. But no one would argue that rape is good, or compatible with a civil society, because it may have had evolutionary advantages for our ancestors. That religion may have served some necessary function for us in the past does not preclude the possibility that it is now the greatest impediment to our building a global civilization." ~ Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation
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“ecrasez l'infame”
Since: May 08
Atlanta, Georgia
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"To be scientifically literate is to empower yourself to know when someone else is full of bullshit." ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
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“There is no such thing”
Since: May 08
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Hedonist wrote: <quoted text> You supposed quote is one line out of context and surrounded by a bunch of hogwash. Here's the real quote when Dr. Harris compares the historical advantage of religion with the historical advantage of rape -- "As a biological phenomenon, religion is the product of cognitive processes that have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Some researchers have speculated that religion itself may have played an important role in getting large groups of prehistoric humans to socially cohere. If this is true, we can say that religion has served an important purpose. This does not suggest, however, that it serves an important purpose now. There is, after all, nothing more natural than rape. But no one would argue that rape is good, or compatible with a civil society, because it may have had evolutionary advantages for our ancestors. That religion may have served some necessary function for us in the past does not preclude the possibility that it is now the greatest impediment to our building a global civilization." ~ Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation How about the next time I quote the almighty Sam Harris I just leave a link to his book so nothing can be taken out of context. Maybe if the guy wasn't so verbose I could quote him without using up the 4000 character limit just to get his point across.
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“There is no such thing”
Since: May 08
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Givemeliberty wrote: Yes for a so called agnostic who shuns Christian beliefs that one certainly frequently uses Christian apologetic website arguments and statements routinely. Hmmmm <quoted text> Either learn what you are talking about or leave you "opinions" in the kitchen where they belong.
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“There is no such thing”
Since: May 08
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"Wise men argue causes; fools decide them." Anacharsis
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“Why do creationists lie?”
Since: Jun 07
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Whatever wrote: <quoted text> Amazing how people like you condemn others for taking a step of faith and believing what the Lord put in us from creation, but you yourself will never take that step of faith to know the truth. So shut up and follow your ignorance and refusal to know the truth. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Liar with no proof of god, making excuses for lying to people without a shred of evidence of your god being real.
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