Quotes from Famous Freethinkers

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How about posting some of your favorite quotes that speak to non-theism, Humanism, freethought, etc. Full Story

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#937 Oct 10, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Hey, look, a Christian! How moral of you to write that! Your parents and preacher must be so proud.
The REGISTERED Bob is an athiest- this one is an unregistered troll.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#938 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>The REGISTERED Bob is an athiest- this one is an unregistered troll.
Being registered doesn't mean a poster isn't a troll. ;)

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#939 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
"For those with faith, no explanation is needed,
for those without Faith no explanation is possible"
I have seen this before, and it makes no sense. Your belief in god is THE explaination for all sorts of questions. Heck, It could be reasonably stated that religion (God) itself was invented for the very purpose of explaining all sorts of things. The above is simply the excuse for the final question of proof of god which is the unanswerable request.
As for the second part, it is speculation at best. On my way to becoming an atheist, I searched and searched for some proof for a god. The difference between you and I, is that I needed real proof, and was not willing to lie to myself. If given real evidence of a god, I would be more than happy to accept it. To date, no one has come close.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#940 Oct 10, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen this before, and it makes no sense. Your belief in god is THE explaination for all sorts of questions. Heck, It could be reasonably stated that religion (God) itself was invented for the very purpose of explaining all sorts of things. The above is simply the excuse for the final question of proof of god which is the unanswerable request.
As for the second part, it is speculation at best. On my way to becoming an atheist, I searched and searched for some proof for a god. The difference between you and I, is that I needed real proof, and was not willing to lie to myself. If given real evidence of a god, I would be more than happy to accept it. To date, no one has come close.
It's a quote attributed to Thomas Aquinas.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#941 Oct 10, 2012
"If your holy book gives laws on how to keep slaves, you holy book is disqualified as a source for developing moral code." ~ anonymous

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#942 Oct 10, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen this before, and it makes no sense. Your belief in god is THE explaination for all sorts of questions. Heck, It could be reasonably stated that religion (God) itself was invented for the very purpose of explaining all sorts of things. The above is simply the excuse for the final question of proof of god which is the unanswerable request.
As for the second part, it is speculation at best. On my way to becoming an atheist, I searched and searched for some proof for a god. The difference between you and I, is that I needed real proof, and was not willing to lie to myself. If given real evidence of a god, I would be more than happy to accept it. To date, no one has come close.
Sorry to hear you were never shown the One Magic Trick that would help you see the light, or perhaps it was there and you never noticed.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#943 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry to hear you were never shown the One Magic Trick that would help you see the light, or perhaps it was there and you never noticed.
Magic trick?
If it takes some sort of trick, than it isn't real, is it?

I doubt it was there and I missed it. I looked really hard before I left "believership". Going from a dyed-in-the-wool believer to and atheist was a long and painful procedure. It didn't happen overnight, but as I said, I couldn't lie to myself, and depend on "magic tricks".

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#944 Oct 10, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
Magic trick?
If it takes some sort of trick, than it isn't real, is it?
I doubt it was there and I missed it. I looked really hard before I left "believership". Going from a dyed-in-the-wool believer to and atheist was a long and painful procedure. It didn't happen overnight, but as I said, I couldn't lie to myself, and depend on "magic tricks".
Well then, other than a Magic Trick, what would you have accepted as proof of God?

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#945 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Well then, other than a Magic Trick, what would you have accepted as proof of God?
Well now, that's a darn good question.

I guess anything that would be considered proof of anything else, commenstrate to it's importance or impact. For instance, You claim to be in the military, and even though I shook your tree in the past about that, I suppose it is true. Now for that, I don't need any more proof than you saying it is true, BUT, you being in the military does not impact my life in any significant way, and would not be very unusual as there are lots of folks in the military, so I really don't need a whole lot of evidence or proof. If someone says, that Elvis is alive, I would need a bit more proof. Not because Elvis impacts my life, but rather because it is very unlikely that he is alive based on several factors. If my wife says she is going to the store, I do not need proof because she has a record of being very honest, and I have no reason to doubt her.

Now, let's talk about god.... Belief in god would impact my life considerably(For this conversation, we will assume the christian god), so I would need some kind of serious proof. The Bible is too flawed and is obviously not the product of an all knowing god. It just got too many things wrong, and lacks credibility. Any supernatural event would do. An appearence by a ghost, which would prove life after death, would be a good one. A good miracle which can't be explained would sure help, or even evidence that prayer works would go a long way. I think I asked you a some point in the past to pray to god for my name... I was being honest when I said that would do the trick! You see, part of the reason I lost my faith was because of claims made that were proven untrue. Prayer is a great example. Have you ever noticed that prayer for anything tangible does not work any better than chance? I am not talking about praying for intangibles like wisdom, or an answer to a personal problem, or serenity, etc... I mean really tangible stuff. If I prayed to god, and said "Father, I feel I am losing my faith because (insert reasons here), and I just need a sign, so could you make me levitate for a couple of seconds?" and it happened, you better damn well believe I would be a believer!!! It is often said that god has healed someone that was thought to be incurable... Well, how about healing an amputee, yup, that would do it!!! I mean, if you believe that god performs miracles, how about one that can't be doubted?!

How's that?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#946 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>The REGISTERED Bob is an athiest- this one is an unregistered troll.
Bless you sir, for pointing that out. Seriously, it speaks to your morality.

I know Bob the atheist and that's why I knew this one wasn't legit.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#947 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Well then, other than a Magic Trick, what would you have accepted as proof of God?
What would it take for you to believe in Zeus? Or Buddha? Or Odin?

It's about that hard for me to believe in your deity. Sorry.

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#948 Oct 10, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
Well now, that's a darn good question.
I guess anything that would be considered proof of anything else, commenstrate to it's importance or impact. For instance, You claim to be in the military, and even though I shook your tree in the past about that, I suppose it is true. Now for that, I don't need any more proof than you saying it is true, BUT, you being in the military does not impact my life in any significant way, and would not be very unusual as there are lots of folks in the military, so I really don't need a whole lot of evidence or proof. If someone says, that Elvis is alive, I would need a bit more proof. Not because Elvis impacts my life, but rather because it is very unlikely that he is alive based on several factors. If my wife says she is going to the store, I do not need proof because she has a record of being very honest, and I have no reason to doubt her.
Now, let's talk about god.... Belief in god would impact my life considerably(For this conversation, we will assume the christian god), so I would need some kind of serious proof. The Bible is too flawed and is obviously not the product of an all knowing god. It just got too many things wrong, and lacks credibility. Any supernatural event would do. An appearence by a ghost, which would prove life after death, would be a good one. A good miracle which can't be explained would sure help, or even evidence that prayer works would go a long way. I think I asked you a some point in the past to pray to god for my name... I was being honest when I said that would do the trick! You see, part of the reason I lost my faith was because of claims made that were proven untrue. Prayer is a great example. Have you ever noticed that prayer for anything tangible does not work any better than chance? I am not talking about praying for intangibles like wisdom, or an answer to a personal problem, or serenity, etc... I mean really tangible stuff. If I prayed to god, and said "Father, I feel I am losing my faith because (insert reasons here), and I just need a sign, so could you make me levitate for a couple of seconds?" and it happened, you better damn well believe I would be a believer!!! It is often said that god has healed someone that was thought to be incurable... Well, how about healing an amputee, yup, that would do it!!! I mean, if you believe that god performs miracles, how about one that can't be doubted?!
How's that?
Fair enough. You require concrete proof and I cannot offer you any. In my case, the evidence of God was always around me in the actions and personalities of my frinds and family. They grew up that way as attending Church was as much a part of our lives as eating. I'm well aware that everyone sins and that remains a puzzle, but we all DO try. As far as concrete proof goes- it happened to me about 4 years ago while I was running on post. Getting near the limit of my strength, I felt gentle hands under my arms, lifting me into an upright position I hadn't realized I had slumped out of- lifted me up like a parent liting a tired child, smiling and renewed, I finished my run. Understand please that I HAVE to run- it's part of a Soldiers' duty and we're tested every 6 months at least. After 'scopes on both knees and 3 toes worked on, running isn't the joy it used to be, but it was that day. God didn't heal me but He let me know He was there. My life is what I make of what I have, I don't expect miracles or help. I never asked for proof either- it just happened and I'm grateful for that.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#949 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Well then, other than a Magic Trick, what would you have accepted as proof of God?
S/he could produce him/herself.

Make an appearance.

A very brief one, a cameo, would be sufficient.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#950 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Fair enough. You require concrete proof and I cannot offer you any. In my case, the evidence of God was always around me in the actions and personalities of my frinds and family. They grew up that way as attending Church was as much a part of our lives as eating. I'm well aware that everyone sins and that remains a puzzle, but we all DO try. As far as concrete proof goes- it happened to me about 4 years ago while I was running on post. Getting near the limit of my strength, I felt gentle hands under my arms, lifting me into an upright position I hadn't realized I had slumped out of- lifted me up like a parent liting a tired child, smiling and renewed, I finished my run. Understand please that I HAVE to run- it's part of a Soldiers' duty and we're tested every 6 months at least. After 'scopes on both knees and 3 toes worked on, running isn't the joy it used to be, but it was that day. God didn't heal me but He let me know He was there. My life is what I make of what I have, I don't expect miracles or help. I never asked for proof either- it just happened and I'm grateful for that.
I apologize, but your story isn't compelling to me, since believers of different religions express similar experiences, sometimes even different spiritual experiences, for their deities, too.

I mean, it's compelling because it touched you personally, and I'm glad you reached that level of human spirituality, but it's not compelling evidence that your deity exists. It's evidence that humans have a deeply spiritual side to them and that this side is culturally and religiously constructed experience.

Because of where you grew up, your social circle, language, cultural background, your experience could only ever be a Christian experience. Had you been born in Norway a thousand years ago, it would have been Odin lifting you up.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#951 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>"In God We Trust- Us currency...and keep your mind off my underwear.
What a joke. Does that make your porn collection, god sanctioned?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#952 Oct 10, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Soooo, you think it's a deep thought that someone compares people to frogs? How's that deep thinking working out for you?
Maybe you should read that again, the comparison was "prayers to croaking", and not "people to frogs".
Hows that failure to comphrehend problem, you've got working out for you?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#953 Oct 10, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>What a joke. Does that make your porn collection, god sanctioned?
Funny you should mention that.

I have it on good biblical authority that god is a big fan of porn.

He even goes for sadistic stuff.

But it has to be straight porn; gay porn is a no no and can land you in eternal fire and damnation.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#954 Oct 10, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should read that again, the comparison was "prayers to croaking", and not "people to frogs".
Hows that failure to comphrehend problem, you've got working out for you?
Deep croak.

See? Religious porn.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#956 Oct 10, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I apologize, but your story isn't compelling to me, since believers of different religions express similar experiences, sometimes even different spiritual experiences, for their deities, too.
I mean, it's compelling because it touched you personally, and I'm glad you reached that level of human spirituality, but it's not compelling evidence that your deity exists. It's evidence that humans have a deeply spiritual side to them and that this side is culturally and religiously constructed experience.
Because of where you grew up, your social circle, language, cultural background, your experience could only ever be a Christian experience. Had you been born in Norway a thousand years ago, it would have been Odin lifting you up.
It is not at all compelling to me, either. That this god thing would gently lift a soldier and help him to shirk his commitment to endurance, while allowing a child, any child to shrivel and die in agony for the lack of sustenance, tells me the god is as big a shit, as is the priest who is telling another child that god wants him on his knees, with his pants down.

They are all foul, and that the believer, will believe that he has the loving attention, of this thing who would, if angered make him eat his own children, purely asinine.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#957 Oct 10, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Deep croak.
See? Religious porn.
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