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EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#1 Jul 28, 2013
http://www.atheismuk.com/2013/07/28/science/c...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article6374155...

Perhaps if Christ had shown more respect for local religions and not challenged "people's beliefs" they wouldn't have nailed him to a cross.
Thinking

UK

#2 Jul 28, 2013
jesus died over 1900 years before the invention of the shellsuit he so desired.
EdSed wrote:
http://www.atheismuk.com/2013/ 07/28/science/contribution-of- humanists-atheists-to-british- society-house-of-lords-debate/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article6374155...
Perhaps if Christ had shown more respect for local religions and not challenged "people's beliefs" they wouldn't have nailed him to a cross.
TaterTod

Asheboro, NC

#4 Aug 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
http://www.atheismuk.com/2013/ 07/28/science/contribution-of- humanists-atheists-to-british- society-house-of-lords-debate/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article6374155...
Perhaps if Christ had shown more respect for local religions and not challenged "people's beliefs" they wouldn't have nailed him to a cross.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23, Holy Bible)

Jesus came to die for sinful man. He willingly went to the cross. He is the only way to Heaven.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#5 Aug 6, 2013
TaterTod wrote:
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.. He is the only way to Heaven.
If you had been born in a muslim country you would probably follow the teachings in islam.
LCN Llin

United States

#6 Aug 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
http://www.atheismuk.com/2013/ 07/28/science/contribution-of- humanists-atheists-to-british- society-house-of-lords-debate/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article6374155...
Perhaps if Christ had shown more respect for local religions and not challenged "people's beliefs" they wouldn't have nailed him to a cross.
Find the House of Lords amusing to a Canadian.
With 26 bishops of the Church of England sitting in the House of Lords,Lords Spiritual, were they vocal in the debate?
Thinking

UK

#7 Aug 6, 2013
The Queen of Canada is the Supreme Governor of those bishops...
LCN Llin wrote:
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Find the House of Lords amusing to a Canadian.
With 26 bishops of the Church of England sitting in the House of Lords,Lords Spiritual, were they vocal in the debate?
LCN Llin

United States

#8 Aug 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The Queen of Canada is the Supreme Governor of those bishops...
<quoted text>
Theology
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9 Aug 7, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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Find the House of Lords amusing to a Canadian.
With 26 bishops of the Church of England sitting in the House of Lords,Lords Spiritual, were they vocal in the debate?
The HofL is a sad, outdated encumbrance - at best. It needs to go, like the monarchy (in my opinion).

The point I note here is that religion is even questioned amongst the out-of-touch old fogies in that privileged, archaic institution.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11 Aug 7, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Scotland to be independent ?
Who knows? 57 weeks is a long time in politics.

The general consensus here seems to be that the SNP were always unlikely to win the referendum (on 18th Sept 2014) and that the Unionists are comfortably winning the argument, so far. The preference might be for a ‘devolution-max’ option but our politicians denied choice to the electorate.

The SNP campaign has been free of anti-British or anti-English rhetoric. For their part, the British and the English have accepted the right of Scots to determine their own future, despite the impact it would have on the UK. From that point of view the debate has been clean, fair and perhaps a good example of how such issues should be discussed and resolved.

“Independence” is a matter of degree. Another question is: independence from the UK, or the EU?

I’ll leave others to google the debates for themselves, but offer this observation from here in Glasgow, Scotland: it makes no sense to me (a middle-aged man) for Scotland to be independent of the UK and a member of the EU. I would prefer to be a part of the UK and independent of the EU, but my 21 year-old nephew seems representative of many young people here, quote,“I’m currently unionist, but I wouldn’t vote for membership of a UK that wanted to leave the EU”.(There is supposed to be a referendum on the UK’s EU membership in 2015, but that is merely a Tory promise, like HofLords reform was promised in their election manifesto).

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/an...

Speaking personally, I may not vote yes or no. I wouldn't wish to be seen to vote for rule by an unreformed Westminster Parliament, but independence from the UK may bring more drawbacks than advatages.
Thinking

UK

#12 Aug 7, 2013
I didn't like him in Baywatch one little bit.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>The HofL is a sad, outdated encumbrance - at best.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#13 Aug 11, 2013
TaterTod wrote:
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"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23, Holy Bible)
Jesus came to die for sinful man. He willingly went to the cross. He is the only way to Heaven.
I'd be ashamed to spread a god like that. He slathers the unborn with inherent and unearned sins, and then he threatens to both torture and kill his innocent victims for his actions. Sh!tty god!

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14 Aug 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I didn't like him in Baywatch one little bit.
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Me either.
LCN Llin

United States

#15 Aug 11, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I'd be ashamed to spread a god like that. He slathers the unborn with inherent and unearned sins, and then he threatens to both torture and kill his innocent victims for his actions. Sh!tty god!
With all due respect you have a very inventive mind.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#16 Aug 11, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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With all due respect you have a very inventive mind.
You think? Are you one of those people who are Ok with whatever the damned god does because he is ...... well, a god?
I guess you can tell, I'm not. Any god who can't earn my respect, will damned sure not have my love nor worship. I'm picky that way. It takes someone who is willing to accept abusive behavior to kneel to a thug like Jehovah, and that just isn't me.
A weasel god like the Abrahamic one would do well to side step my turf, for his public humiliation would sure to be rapidly forthcoming.
LCNlin

United States

#17 Aug 12, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>You think? Are you one of those people who are Ok with whatever the damned god does because he is ...... well, a god?
I guess you can tell, I'm not. Any god who can't earn my respect, will damned sure not have my love nor worship. I'm picky that way. It takes someone who is willing to accept abusive behavior to kneel to a thug like Jehovah, and that just isn't me.
A weasel god like the Abrahamic one would do well to side step my turf, for his public humiliation would sure to be rapidly forthcoming.
Imagine you are fun to be with at breakfast ;-)

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#18 Aug 12, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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With all due respect you have a very inventive mind.
Says the idiot who expects us to believe a homeless bearded man created the entire universe or we'll burn in a fiery hell invented by the very same idiot.

Since: Jun 07

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#19 Aug 12, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
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Imagine you are fun to be with at breakfast ;-)
marked as spam.
LCNlin

United States

#20 Aug 12, 2013
ah for the pre 1988 days in East Germany (DDR)
when the atheist government could arrest and silence those who did not agree?

Is there a totalitarian aspect to militant atheism?

Some atheists seem to want to silence those who do not agree? Odd :-)
Thinking

UK

#21 Aug 12, 2013
You whinger. East German churches were allowed to remain open despite their proven collusion with the Nazis.
LCNlin wrote:
ah for the pre 1988 days in East Germany (DDR)
when the atheist government could arrest and silence those who did not agree?
Is there a totalitarian aspect to militant atheism?
Some atheists seem to want to silence those who do not agree? Odd :-)
LCNlin

United States

#22 Aug 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You whinger. East German churches were allowed to remain open despite their proven collusion with the Nazis.
<quoted text>
Defending East Germany is not a surprise.
Communism on the junk heap of history and philosophy.

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