crazy christian concepts

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#21 Jul 28, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> no, you are not crazy. I have been critical of what I see as your faults, but sometimes you are excellent on a particular comment or set of comments, or in opposition to someone who is ridiculous. Thanks for your interesting contributions and your clever way of phrasing them, on this thread. You also did lots of research and made a lot of effort to put up all the Hitler quotes, when someone alleged that he was an atheist. If you mean well, and have the capacity to write well, you really should overcome your tendency to overuse obscenities - it detracts from the respect one might otherwise have for you as a person - and your tendency to make false accusations from hasty reactions, or misunderstandings. I still wish you would reconsider and reply to my comments and questions elsewhere. We can argue on somethings, but should still be on the same side against the crazies.
Where I disagree with most atheists is that I like nice people with good values, and who favor the right policies and political leaders, who think they are christians - and otherwise do no harm that I can see. And i dislike it when atheists make overly strong statements. Yours above were very strong, without being too strong, in my view. See how well you do without using the f word!
My enemy is stupidity not people. My tools are words and evidence, not violence. If you respect evidence, facts reality and logic, and by natural extension all that is amazing about science, then you "get" what being on this round ball is all about.

If you don't "get" this, then feel free to invent your own reality, just don't try and get me to buy into it, because people are working hard and stressing themselves over discovering more about the world and they don't get paid much for their efforts. These people are called scientists. Respect em'.

Since: Jun 07

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#22 Jul 28, 2012
Arguing with Creationists online can make sane people swear a lot.

Especially when they are deliberately misrepresenting science and atheism.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23 Jul 28, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
My enemy is stupidity not people. My tools are words and evidence, not violence. If you respect evidence, facts reality and logic, and by natural extension all that is amazing about science, then you "get" what being on this round ball is all about.
If you don't "get" this, then feel free to invent your own reality, just don't try and get me to buy into it, because people are working hard and stressing themselves over discovering more about the world and they don't get paid much for their efforts. These people are called scientists. Respect em'.
if'n they use the f word in every other comment, I do not respect even them.

I do not think that being on earth is all about what is amazing about science. I think it is about hurting as few living beings as possible, as little as possible. and about being kind to as many living beings as possible, though with emphasis on protecting the finer and less dangerous or harmful ones, from the nasty ones. I would kill more fleas to save more dogs, for example. If I could get by with it, I would also kill hunters to save more deer, but I know I could not get by with it.

The mind is wonderful. But it is not what life is for. Life is for minimizing evil, in the form of pain and suffering, not for finding out the BIG TRUTHS. Bits of pleasure that hurt no one are fine too, and the use of the mind is one of the great pleasures of life. The proper use of the mind is also to find out how to reduce pain and suffering the quickest, the most, for the most living beings. Your pure science, and absolute truths, if they do not reduce suffering, are not as worthy as a little invention to save some poor mouse from dying painfully, if someone is intent on killing it. I am wildly pro-life, and against a world in which some life does well at the expense of others. Your socalled knowing that there is no God strikes me as entirely a mind thing.
My knowing that there could not be an allgoodallpowerful God, is a combination of a mind thing and a compassion thing, and is more TRUE.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#24 Jul 28, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
Arguing with Creationists online can make sane people swear a lot.
Especially when they are deliberately misrepresenting science and atheism.
THE F WORD IS NOT SWEARING. it is an obscenity. and decent sane people can argue with creationists without doing either. you just want to be self-indulgent and make excuses for yourself.

the extent of my swearing is the term "ouch-damn" for little pains like stubbed toes and paper cuts, and "hell in a handbasket" for where I wish some of my enemies. The very few who are very nasty to me. The smart atheists are not nasty - even when they are hard atheists like you. They are strong, but not ugly and awful, in a way that allows some believers to say that atheism is discredited.
You yourself are capable of being that way, if you were not so damned self-indulgent about your obscenities. It makes you look age 14.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#25 Jul 28, 2012
apologies to 14-year olds. arguing with certain people makes one use unfair sterotypes sometimes.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#26 Jul 28, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
My enemy is stupidity not people. My tools are words and evidence, not violence. If you respect evidence, facts reality and logic, and by natural extension all that is amazing about science, then you "get" what being on this round ball is all about.
If you don't "get" this, then feel free to invent your own reality, just don't try and get me to buy into it, because people are working hard and stressing themselves over discovering more about the world and they don't get paid much for their efforts. These people are called scientists. Respect em'.
your words are often a type of verbal violence. full of heated emotion. not typical of a scientific mindset. you use innuendo and false accusation, and you use obscenities and insults as your tools. you are no scientist.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#27 Jul 28, 2012
"crazy christian concepts" from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Since: Mar 11

Ft Mitchell, KY

#28 Jul 28, 2012
Nicely put :)

Regardless of the religion once you make that leap of believing there is a magical supreme man in the sky who agrees with whatever you do you are lead down the path of madness. How often do you hear a Christian/Jew/Muslim say in conversation to you hmmmm yes I guess I would be wrong in the eyes of God, I need to correct this :)

LMFAO don't hold your breath
Amused wrote:
"crazy christian concepts" from the Department of Redundancy Department.
redneck

Glendale, OR

#29 Jul 28, 2012
AmericasBestChristian wrote:
The only reason these Christian concepts seem "crazy" to you is because you are unsaved and therefore lack the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, you are no better than an exploding Muslim or a Mitt-Romney-Mormon with all of his sister wives and all of his pairs of occult Mormon underwear.
The flesh, the world and the Devil hisself reside in you: you cannot appreciate the things of the Spirit such as the FACT that Yahweh impregnated a teenager so that premarital sex can be forgiven or that Yahweh detests adultery yet He impregnated another man's wife.
1 Corinthians 1:27..."But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty"
In Jesus' Love,
America's Best Christian :)
I am under the impression that Poes Law could be applied here.

Since: Jun 07

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#30 Jul 28, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> your words are often a type of verbal violence. full of heated emotion. not typical of a scientific mindset. you use innuendo and false accusation, and you use obscenities and insults as your tools. you are no scientist.
considering your reject papers by NASA and Quantum Mechanics for f*cks sake, your opinions about science don't matter much (I explained this to you before)

It seems you don't "get" science at all. Its a wonder why you masquerade here posing as an intellectual holding up nothing but cardboard cutout of a person who name drops the word "science" now and again, thinking he knows what it is, all the while denying fundamental science and the mountains of evidence behind it.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#31 Jul 30, 2012
redneck wrote:
<quoted text>I am under the impression that Poes Law could be applied here.
it could be, but this is one I think I would bet on! I think this is a first rate satirist.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#32 Jul 30, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
considering your reject papers by NASA and Quantum Mechanics for f*cks sake, your opinions about science don't matter much (I explained this to you before)
It seems you don't "get" science at all. Its a wonder why you masquerade here posing as an intellectual holding up nothing but cardboard cutout of a person who name drops the word "science" now and again, thinking he knows what it is, all the while denying fundamental science and the mountains of evidence behind it.
again, you are indeed crazy in this wild refrence about rejecting papers by NASA and Quantum Mechanics - and incidentally you are still obscene and disgusting. You never explain anything about the issue you refer to, which I never discussed. Mostly I complain about how obscene you are, to be candid. It is clear to me that you do not know what scientific attitudes are all about. You seem to think they are a substitute form of holy writ, and you are some sort of pope of the atheists. Being opposed to the arrogance of assertions about holy writ includes treating any scientific so-called conclusion as some definitive ABSOLUTE truth. I think I respect science more by not idolizing it, than you do by invoking it like others invoke a God. I am not the only one on topix with a negative view of you and your comments, though I probably whine more about your obscenities than others do.

Are you 13 or 14 and trying to prove yourself a man, or something?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#33 Jul 30, 2012
if Skeptic claims that evolution produced a superior being in humans, and gives himself as an example, then I suppose I would have my doubts about evolution also.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#34 Jul 30, 2012
back on point and away from my feud with Skeptic -with apologies for the diversion -

I recently told a fundie friend of mine that there were tremendously stunning photos of the very wide storm over Manhattan, and she replied that it was probably God warning people to repent.

That is one of the crazy type of concepts of Christians and other believers in intervening Gods, and threatening Gods.

Does weather just go on as nature leads it, until God says "Wait, I gotta make me a threat so folks will repent?" or does God make the weather everywhere everyday? must be very busy, with so many planets - unless he only makes weather on planets where there are people he has to threaten occasionally to tell them to straighten up or go to hell.

this person got help from the government to take courses from a fundie bible college. we paid for part of her miseducation. that was one of the types of things that inspired the first amendment - to prevent taxing folks for other people's nonsense propaganda spreading. there are others even now getting taxpayers money to study in bible colleges. it is an outrage!

Since: Jun 07

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#36 Jul 31, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> again, you are indeed crazy in this wild refrence about rejecting papers by NASA and Quantum Mechanics - and incidentally you are still obscene and disgusting. You never explain anything about the issue you refer to, which I never discussed. Mostly I complain about how obscene you are, to be candid. It is clear to me that you do not know what scientific attitudes are all about. You seem to think they are a substitute form of holy writ, and you are some sort of pope of the atheists. Being opposed to the arrogance of assertions about holy writ includes treating any scientific so-called conclusion as some definitive ABSOLUTE truth. I think I respect science more by not idolizing it, than you do by invoking it like others invoke a God. I am not the only one on topix with a negative view of you and your comments, though I probably whine more about your obscenities than others do.
Are you 13 or 14 and trying to prove yourself a man, or something?
YOu're ridiculous classical mechanics theory is being pounded into the ground in the other thread.

YOu're an intellectual poser with no brains. Rejecting evidence from NASA proves that you have no clue when it comes to reasoned argument.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#37 Jul 31, 2012
Is Jesus riding across two donkeys at once to fulfill a prophecy crazy enough? That Jew had some serious flexibility!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#38 Jul 31, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
YOu're ridiculous classical mechanics theory is being pounded into the ground in the other thread.
YOu're an intellectual poser with no brains. Rejecting evidence from NASA proves that you have no clue when it comes to reasoned argument.
excuse me - your use of the spelling you're for your begins to look like fundie hasty typing. what classical mechanics theory, and what other thread - I have no classical mechanics theory that I know of, but perhaps I could develop one if I knew which thread to visit. I have a very good sense of humor and imagination and I bet I could think of something funny to say, since I have no idea what the subject matter is that you are talking about!
I am so sorry you think I committed the unpardonable SIN of rejecting evidence from NASA. Since I do not recall ever discussing any evidence about anything from NASA, I am guessing you are mistaking me for some other commenter.

I have explained several times before that I dislike you on other grounds than the ones which you allege. I dislike your arrogance. I dislike your false accusations. I dislike your spelling! I dislike your constant use of the f word. I dislike many of your comments to other people - and I notice some very smart atheists also dislike them. How do I dislike thee - let me count the ways - no, NASA, quantum mechanics, and the theory of mass (which I found you accusing me of having on another thread) are not among them. sorry. wrong commenter. go find someone else to reply to and let someone else see you make a fool of yourself.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#39 Jul 31, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Is Jesus riding across two donkeys at once to fulfill a prophecy crazy enough? That Jew had some serious flexibility!
if you want to read a fascinating book with a wild theory about Jesus - not that I agree, but the writing is excellent and it reads like a novel - try The Passover Plot. The theory is that Jesus planned and plotted his own attempted murder, and followed a scenario he thought he saw in prophecy, because he had been brainwashed to think he was the real Messiah. He plotted not to die, and had an above ground burial site ready, and something went amiss, apparently... better than Agatha Christie.

Since: Mar 11

Ft Mitchell, KY

#40 Jul 31, 2012
Sounds cool :)
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> if you want to read a fascinating book with a wild theory about Jesus - not that I agree, but the writing is excellent and it reads like a novel - try The Passover Plot. The theory is that Jesus planned and plotted his own attempted murder, and followed a scenario he thought he saw in prophecy, because he had been brainwashed to think he was the real Messiah. He plotted not to die, and had an above ground burial site ready, and something went amiss, apparently... better than Agatha Christie.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#41 Jul 31, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sounds cool :)
<quoted text>
it is. another thing I always recommend - the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, Fitzgerald translation. and the play jb, by Archibald MacLeish - well several things! also poems of Stephen Crane (not Hart)

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