An atheist returns to Christ

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If you've ever wondered how people make the journey from Christianity to atheism and back again, Anne Rice offers some insights based on her own experience. She also has some powerful and moving things to say about what it means to be a Christian in her most recent book, Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession (Knopf, 2008).

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Jim

London, UK

#4154 Jan 6, 2014
Lnc wrote:
Toleration for views other than ones own is a virtue.
The problem is that Creationist Cult Members cannot tolerate scientific facts.

Acceptance of science is not even a virtue - its just what normal people do.
Jim

London, UK

#4155 Jan 6, 2014
Atheists aren't arguing that Science is never wrong, Atheists are simply state the facts: that Religion has never been right.

This is offense to the delusional.
Patrick

United States

#4156 Sep 14, 2014
Jim wrote:
Atheists aren't arguing that Science is never wrong, Atheists are simply state the facts: that Religion has never been right.
This is offense to the delusional.
Nato countries have started delivering arms to Ukraine to help its soldiers fight pro-Russian separatists in the east, the defence minister says.

Valery Heletey did not give details of the weapons being delivered or name the countries involved.

A similar statement earlier was denied by five Nato members, including the US.

Ukraine's prime minister says Nato is the "only vehicle" to protect the country from Russia, which he and the West accuse of intervening in the east.

Moscow has denied sending troops to help pro-Russian rebels who have been engaged in heavy fighting with government forces in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions since April.

At least some 2,600 people have been killed in five months of conflict.

A fragile ceasefire has been in place since 5 September, despite recent outbreaks of violence around key flashpoints such as Donetsk airport.

No lethal assistance
Mr Heletey told reporters on Sunday that he had discussed weapons deliveries in bilateral meetings with Nato defence ministers during a Nato summit in Wales earlier this month.

"I have no right to disclose any specific country we reached that agreement with. But the fact is that those weapons are already on the way to us - that's absolutely true, I can officially tell you," he said in remarks quoted by Ukraine's Unian news agency.
Patrick

United States

#4157 Sep 15, 2014
More positive news from Europe
Francois Hollande told the conference Islamic State represented a global threat
Thirty countries have pledged to help Iraq fight Islamic State (IS) militants "by all means necessary".

A joint statement by foreign ministers taking part in a major conference in Paris talks said support would include "appropriate military assistance".

The talks had been called to agree a strategy to combat the group, which controls large parts of Iraq and Syria.

The conference followed a whirlwind tour of the Middle East by US Secretary of State John Kerry.

Mr Kerry, who attended the summit, has been drumming up support for a plan of action unveiled by President Barack Obama last week.

The murder of British aid worker David Haines by IS militants, shown in a video released by the group on Saturday, has added momentum to the plans, says the BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris.

Opening the summit, French President Francois Hollande said the threat posed by IS militants needed a global response.

The CIA estimates that Islamic State has between 20,000 and 31,000 fighters in Iraq and Syria.

'Bigger threat'
Iraqi President Fuad Masum, who co-hosted the conference with Mr Hollande, said the international community must pursue the jihadists "quickly". BBC
Patrick

United States

#4158 Sep 15, 2014
Some good news for believers and nonbelievers from America

INDIANOLA, Iowa — It was Tom Harkin’s day. But the Bill Clinton Show was very much in town.
Before his speech at the Harkin Steak Fry, the former president lingered with reporters long after his wife had left his side, reminiscent of their days together when she was campaigning for the Senate in New York in 2000, when she would return to their waiting SUV and he would continue responding to questions.

Bill Clinton became famous for off-the-cuff comments in 2008 that distracted from his wife’s message. His allies have long maintained such criticism was unfair, but the former president spent the past five years as a low-maintenance partner while Hillary Clinton secretary of State. Nothing he did Sunday was problematic for her. But his performance highlighted the contrast between the two in how much they relish the stage.
While he was careful not to outshine his wife during his own speech at the Harkin Steak Fry, he veered sharply into improv. The former president denounced big spending by outside groups, accused the Koch brothers of running “black bag operations” in states around the country and mocked Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for describing former President George W. Bush’s signing of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill as the worst in his political life.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/bill-cl...
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#4159 Sep 17, 2014
There is no Atheist who returns to Christ, there are only ex Christians who say they were or are Atheists, and then after they are screwed into the ground by Satan the Devil doing his dirty work, and they all know this is true, they believe they return to the undeserved grace of Jesus, as now Christian again. 2Corinthians 4:4

Too bad, the fact is anyone who is not a worshiper of Almighty God Jehovah, is already owned by Satan the Devil, and you are identified as his seed or children, alienated from Almighty God Jehovah, and that includes ex Jehovah's witnesses who choose this world over God's new world of righteousness.
Genesis 3:14,15

The true Atheist would never even consider any god, he is his own god or authority over his life, and has that conviction from his age of reasoning on any religion as false.
TheHeadlines

Hayes, UK

#4160 Sep 18, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
There is no Atheist who returns to Christ, there are only ex Christians who say they were or are Atheists, and then after they are screwed into the ground by Satan the Devil doing his dirty work, and they all know this is true, they believe they return to the undeserved grace of Jesus, as now Christian again. 2Corinthians 4:4
Too bad, the fact is anyone who is not a worshiper of Almighty God Jehovah, is already owned by Satan the Devil, and you are identified as his seed or children, alienated from Almighty God Jehovah, and that includes ex Jehovah's witnesses who choose this world over God's new world of righteousness.
Genesis 3:14,15
The true Atheist would never even consider any god, he is his own god or authority over his life, and has that conviction from his age of reasoning on any religion as false.
"Religious Liars Doesn't Know When To Shut The F*ck Up About A God She Has No Evidence For."
TheHeadlines

Hayes, UK

#4161 Sep 18, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Some good news for believers and nonbelievers from America
INDIANOLA, Iowa — It was Tom Harkin’s day. But the Bill Clinton Show was very much in town.
Before his speech at the Harkin Steak Fry, the former president lingered with reporters long after his wife had left his side, reminiscent of their days together when she was campaigning for the Senate in New York in 2000, when she would return to their waiting SUV and he would continue responding to questions.
Bill Clinton became famous for off-the-cuff comments in 2008 that distracted from his wife’s message. His allies have long maintained such criticism was unfair, but the former president spent the past five years as a low-maintenance partner while Hillary Clinton secretary of State. Nothing he did Sunday was problematic for her. But his performance highlighted the contrast between the two in how much they relish the stage.
While he was careful not to outshine his wife during his own speech at the Harkin Steak Fry, he veered sharply into improv. The former president denounced big spending by outside groups, accused the Koch brothers of running “black bag operations” in states around the country and mocked Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for describing former President George W. Bush’s signing of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill as the worst in his political life.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/bill-cl...
"Two Faced Creationist Liar Attempts to Game Topix Atheism Forum With Soft-Evangelism. Deliberately Forgets To F*ck Off Back To Discovery Institute."
Patrick

United States

#4162 Sep 18, 2014
TheHeadlines wrote:
<quoted text>
"Two Faced Creationist Liar Attempts to Game Topix Atheism Forum With Soft-Evangelism. Deliberately Forgets To F*ck Off Back To Discovery Institute."
Thanks for you undivided attention..
you took the O level not the A level exMS based on the above stated opinions.

Any views on the outcome in Scotland ?

Guess you can pick up the Guardian on the newsstand, alas here we need the web.

The campaign against Scottish independence appears to have edged ahead in the final poll of the referendum campaign, with the no campaign at 53% of decided voters compared with the yes group's 47%.

As unprecedented numbers of voters cast their votes on Thursday, Ipsos Mori reported a slight strengthening in the no campaign's lead. The same firm issued a poll on Wednesday night showing no ahead by only two percentage points, based on earlier field work.

Polling stations have been busy across Scotland with 97% of residents registered to take part in the referendum, and 95% of those polled by Ipsos saying they would vote. There has been a police presence at polling stations in some parts of Edinburgh, but there have been no reports of any disturbances.

In Westminster there are already signs of a backlash regardless of the result, with some Tory MPs complaining about the devolution offers made to Scotland if it votes no.

Alex Salmond, the Scottish National party leader and figurehead of the yes campaign, told reporters and supporters as he prepared to cast his vote: "We are in the hands of the people of Scotland and there is no safer place to be than in the hands of the Scottish people who can take their own future into their own hands.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/...

Cheers !
Patrick

United States

#4163 Sep 18, 2014
Expanding membership a guide for United Kingdom ......

Invite person of other faiths to speak and feel welcome.

Make sure that your Religious Education facilities are attractive to children and their parents. Pay special attention to the church nursery. Make sure it appears safe and inviting.

Provide Sunday morning greeters at each of your major entrance areas. If yours is a larger congregation with more than twenty visitors a week, station your first group of welcoming greeters in the parking lots.

Designate someone adept at identifying and connecting with visiting young adults to be a young adult greeter.
Thinking

Southall, UK

#4164 Sep 18, 2014
Religitards like you have wrecked the meaning of Atheist for your own political ends.

I'm a non-believer. You'll find that term harder to lie about.
True Christian witness wrote:
There is no Atheist who returns to Christ, there are only ex Christians who say they were or are Atheists, and then after they are screwed into the ground by Satan the Devil doing his dirty work, and they all know this is true, they believe they return to the undeserved grace of Jesus, as now Christian again. 2Corinthians 4:4
Too bad, the fact is anyone who is not a worshiper of Almighty God Jehovah, is already owned by Satan the Devil, and you are identified as his seed or children, alienated from Almighty God Jehovah, and that includes ex Jehovah's witnesses who choose this world over God's new world of righteousness.
Genesis 3:14,15
The true Atheist would never even consider any god, he is his own god or authority over his life, and has that conviction from his age of reasoning on any religion as false.
TheHeadlines

London, UK

#4165 Sep 18, 2014
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for you undivided attention..
you took the O level not the A level exMS based on the above stated opinions.
Any views on the outcome in Scotland ?
Guess you can pick up the Guardian on the newsstand, alas here we need the web.
The campaign against Scottish independence appears to have edged ahead in the final poll of the referendum campaign, with the no campaign at 53% of decided voters compared with the yes group's 47%.
As unprecedented numbers of voters cast their votes on Thursday, Ipsos Mori reported a slight strengthening in the no campaign's lead. The same firm issued a poll on Wednesday night showing no ahead by only two percentage points, based on earlier field work.
Polling stations have been busy across Scotland with 97% of residents registered to take part in the referendum, and 95% of those polled by Ipsos saying they would vote. There has been a police presence at polling stations in some parts of Edinburgh, but there have been no reports of any disturbances.
In Westminster there are already signs of a backlash regardless of the result, with some Tory MPs complaining about the devolution offers made to Scotland if it votes no.
Alex Salmond, the Scottish National party leader and figurehead of the yes campaign, told reporters and supporters as he prepared to cast his vote: "We are in the hands of the people of Scotland and there is no safer place to be than in the hands of the Scottish people who can take their own future into their own hands.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/...
Cheers !
"Idiot Attempts To Communicate With Newspaper Headline"
TheHeadlines

London, UK

#4166 Sep 18, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Expanding membership a guide for United Kingdom ......
Invite person of other faiths to speak and feel welcome.
Make sure that your Religious Education facilities are attractive to children and their parents. Pay special attention to the church nursery. Make sure it appears safe and inviting.
Provide Sunday morning greeters at each of your major entrance areas. If yours is a larger congregation with more than twenty visitors a week, station your first group of welcoming greeters in the parking lots.
Designate someone adept at identifying and connecting with visiting young adults to be a young adult greeter.
"Creationist Explains How His Cult Grooms Children And Parents."
Patrick

United States

#4167 Sep 18, 2014
TheHeadlines wrote:
<quoted text>
"Creationist Explains How His Cult Grooms Children And Parents."
God Bless America

A group of Tennessee cheerleaders decided to bring prayer back to the football field.

Oneida High School administrators instituted a moment of silence after receiving complaints from secular groups about school-led prayers at the district’s Friday night football games. But members of the cheer squad, upset about breaking the more than 80 year old tradition, recently started reciting the prayers on their own.

Cheerleader Asia Canada said she couldn’t help but speak up.

"[The announcer] called for the moment of silence and I started off,'Our Father who art in heaven' and everyone joined in," Canada told WBIR.

Eventually, cheerleaders from the visiting team and members of the audience started saying the Lord’s Prayer, as well.

“It is your option what you do in that moment of silence and this is our option,” Oneida cheerleader Kayla King told WATE.

It was pressure from groups, like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom From Religion Foundation, that compelled the district to put a plug on prayers said over the loudspeaker.

The groups have legal grounds for their complaint. In 2000, the Supreme Court ruled that prayers said over a school's loudspeakers violated the First Amendment’s protection against the establishment of religion. The ACLU warned Oneida about this ruling in 2011, but the school continued the practice.

When the groups renewed their campaign against school-sponsored prayer this year, administrators at Oneida gave in.

Kevin Acres, Oneida’s football game announcer, has been sitting in the booth at the high school’s games for more than a decade. He was frustrated by the decision, claiming that most people in the area were supportive of the Christian gesture.

“The majority of people in this area want to have prayer before a ball game, and I don't think its right for a minority out away from here dictates what we do here,” Acres said.

But now that the cheerleaders are taking charge, Acres sees a silver lining.

“Where you had one person saying a prayer over the PA, now you've got hundreds maybe a thousand people saying it together,” Acres said.
Thinking

Southall, UK

#4168 Sep 19, 2014
Misogynist elitist wank.
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
God Bless America
A group of Tennessee cheerleaders decided to bring prayer back to the football field.
Oneida High School administrators instituted a moment of silence after receiving complaints from secular groups about school-led prayers at the district’s Friday night football games. But members of the cheer squad, upset about breaking the more than 80 year old tradition, recently started reciting the prayers on their own.
Cheerleader Asia Canada said she couldn’t help but speak up.
"[The announcer] called for the moment of silence and I started off,'Our Father who art in heaven' and everyone joined in," Canada told WBIR.
Eventually, cheerleaders from the visiting team and members of the audience started saying the Lord’s Prayer, as well.
“It is your option what you do in that moment of silence and this is our option,” Oneida cheerleader Kayla King told WATE.
It was pressure from groups, like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom From Religion Foundation, that compelled the district to put a plug on prayers said over the loudspeaker.
The groups have legal grounds for their complaint. In 2000, the Supreme Court ruled that prayers said over a school's loudspeakers violated the First Amendment’s protection against the establishment of religion. The ACLU warned Oneida about this ruling in 2011, but the school continued the practice.
When the groups renewed their campaign against school-sponsored prayer this year, administrators at Oneida gave in.
Kevin Acres, Oneida’s football game announcer, has been sitting in the booth at the high school’s games for more than a decade. He was frustrated by the decision, claiming that most people in the area were supportive of the Christian gesture.
“The majority of people in this area want to have prayer before a ball game, and I don't think its right for a minority out away from here dictates what we do here,” Acres said.
But now that the cheerleaders are taking charge, Acres sees a silver lining.
“Where you had one person saying a prayer over the PA, now you've got hundreds maybe a thousand people saying it together,” Acres said.
Patrick

United States

#4169 Sep 19, 2014
Freedom and democracy and free speech .....

After receiving a reminder from the American Civil Liberties Union that it is unconstitutional to hold school-sanctioned prayer over the loud-speaker before football games, a group of Oneida High School cheerleaders decided to use the moment of silence to lead the fans in a recitation of the Lord’s Prayer.

The director of schools in Oneida, Ann Sexton, said that “we were advised to stop the practice” of having the public address announcer lead the fans in the Lord’s Prayer, and that the constitutionally acceptable alternative was a moment of silence.

That was not enough for the Oneida cheerleaders, however.“We need prayer for so many reasons especially in our community now and the troubles we face every day,” one of the cheerleaders told WATE.

So, she continued,“during the moment of silence all the cheerleaders came together and recited the Lord’s Prayer. In that moment the atmosphere was kind of great because it was nothing but heads bowed, and you heard the Lord’s Prayer ring over the football field.”

The school’s public address announcer, Kevin Acres, told WATE that the decision to institute the moment of silence “wasn’t our decision or the school board’s, it was pressure from outside groups.” In addition to the ACLU, the Freedom From Religious Foundation also sent the district a letter reminding it to protect the constitutional rights of its non-religious students.

But Acres is undeterred.“The majority of people in this area want to have prayer before a ball game, and I don’t think it’s right for a minority out away from here dictates what we do here,” he said, before adding that the ban may have had the unintended consequence of making the pre-game environment even more religious.

“Where you had one person saying a prayer over the PA, now you’ve got hundreds maybe a thousand people saying it together,” he said.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#4170 Sep 19, 2014
Patrick wrote:
..“Where you had one person saying a prayer over the PA, now you’ve got hundreds maybe a thousand people saying it together,” he said.
Prayer is stupid, as its asking an all knowing, all powerful being to do something he is not doing. Its saying your will is more important than your Gods.
FSM

Melbourne, Australia

#4171 Sep 19, 2014
Adam wrote:
Prayer is stupid, as its asking an all knowing, all powerful being to do something he is not doing. Its saying your will is more important than your Gods.
Is that an old familiar face I see?
FSM

Melbourne, Australia

#4172 Sep 19, 2014
Why any atheist would return to Christianity is beyond me, but I've seen it happen. Like a dog returning to its vomit (Proverbs 26:11) sums it up best, quite ironically.
Patrick

United States

#4173 Sep 19, 2014
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Prayer is stupid, as its asking an all knowing, all powerful being to do something he is not doing. Its saying your will is more important than your Gods.
.....and is legal before public meetings per the US Supreme Court.
Imagine the cheerleader thing will catch on?

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