An atheist returns to Christ

Jan 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: www.onenewsnow.com

If you've ever wondered how people make the journey from Christianity to atheism and back again, Anne Rice offers some insights based on her own experience. She also has some powerful and moving things to say about what it means to be a Christian in her most recent book, Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession (Knopf, 2008).

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This is great news to hear someone has come back to the faith. Praise God.
It's Anne Rice. You can have her.
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For those who think that Thanksgiving begins and ends with the big bird and some holiday shopping, we offer this as a reminder. It is President George Washington’s address calling for the nation’s first “public thanksgiving.” Enjoy.

“By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

“Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor — and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

“Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be — That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks — for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation — for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war — for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed — for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted — for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

“And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions — to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually — to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed — to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord — To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us — and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

“Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.”

Go. Washington
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Pastor Richard Dawkins wrote:
This is great news to hear someone has come back to the faith. Praise God.
Of course it is news. Atheist becoming a believer is such a rare event that it is news, in the "man bites dog" novelty sense, whereas dozens leave superstition behind every day. That is not news, simply because it is so common. Not to mention that many newly minted atheists justifiably fear the backlash from their believing families, friends, employers, etc., so they keep their atheism quiet and do not seek attention for it.
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LCNLin wrote:
For those who think that Thanksgiving begins and ends with the big bird and some holiday shopping, we offer this as a reminder. It is President George Washington’s address calling for the nation’s first “public thanksgiving.” Enjoy.
“By the President of the United States of America,...
I guess when you lack the ability to conceive an original thought, reposting other people's thoughts, regardless of their relevance to the thread, is all you have left. Sad, really.
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I guess when you lack the ability to conceive an original thought, reposting other people's thoughts, regardless of their relevance to the thread, is all you have left. Sad, really.
Remain amused by your epistles and miss them as Saturday Night Live is only once a week.

1. Atheists love to make fun of those who believe, sky daddy, pixies etc.

2. Atheist have "a hissy-fit" when others find the atheist religious philosophy amusing.
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Remain amused by your epistles and miss them as Saturday Night Live is only once a week.
1. Atheists love to make fun of those who believe, sky daddy, pixies etc.
2. Atheist have "a hissy-fit" when others find the atheist religious philosophy amusing.
I know I've asked you this before, and I know you have no cogent answer, but:

Outside of a common disbelief in deities, explain what "atheist philosophy" is, and how such a philosophy could include views as divergent as those of Ayn Rand and Karl Marx, both atheists, and still be a coherent philosophy.
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I know I've asked you this before, and I know you have no cogent answer, but:
Outside of a common disbelief in deities, explain what "atheist philosophy" is, and how such a philosophy could include views as divergent as those of Ayn Rand and Karl Marx, both atheists, and still be a coherent philosophy.
Ayn Rand seems the worst of the lot...selfish self-centered not at all like my atheist friends.

Karl Marx seems a democratic sort, wanted elections and a fair deal for the working class at a time of great exploitation.

On a atheist forum, sooner or later, someone will define the philosophy, if one exists,... other than making fun of those with faith.

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Ayn Rand seems the worst of the lot...selfish self-centered not at all like my atheist friends.
Karl Marx seems a democratic sort, wanted elections and a fair deal for the working class at a time of great exploitation.
On a atheist forum, sooner or later, someone will define the philosophy, if one exists,... other than making fun of those with faith.
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You seem to concede that the only common ground shared by all atheists is a lack of belief in god. There's your long-awaited definition. That's a "philosophy" only to the same extent that disbelief in Santa is a philosophy. There are capitalist atheists, socialist atheists, apolitical atheists. We come in all colors and sizes, and from many cultures.
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You seem to concede that the only common ground shared by all atheists is a lack of belief in god. There's your long-awaited definition. That's a "philosophy" only to the same extent that disbelief in Santa is a philosophy. There are capitalist atheists, socialist atheists, apolitical atheists. We come in all colors and sizes, and from many cultures.
Both Ayn and Karl were materialists and have the limitation of materialists.

Materialists have difficulty with the concept of "Quality" ...they are great on quantity

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Both Ayn and Karl were materialists and have the limitation of materialists.
Materialists have difficulty with the concept of "Quality" ...they are great on quantity
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The limitation of materialists is that they limit themselves to reality. You can indeed trust us on matters of quantity, and the quantity of existing deities is "0".

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Ayn Rand seems the worst of the lot...selfish self-centered not at all like my atheist friends.
Karl Marx seems a democratic sort, wanted elections and a fair deal for the working class at a time of great exploitation.
On a atheist forum, sooner or later, someone will define the philosophy, if one exists,... other than making fun of those with faith.
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If truly interested in the definition of atheism, you could have learned for yourself in about 5 minutes of google search. I'm not accusing you of being intellectually lazy, but I find it curious that you would engage in a debate about religion vs atheism without bothering to study the topic. Let me help you:

"Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings. Atheists do not have a common belief system, sacred scripture, elaborate dogma, or atheist Pope. Atheists often disagree on many issues and ideas. Atheists come in a variety of shapes, colors, beliefs, convictions, and backgrounds. We are as unique as our fingerprints."

Sounds a bit like the people who DO believe in god, right? None of them seem to really agree on much, and their religions have been the cause of wars, genocide, murder and mayhem throughout history. In my opinion, it takes a lot more work to defend one's absolute belief in a supernatural being when that "almighty god" has apparently been missing in action for 2,000 + years...
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If truly interested in the definition of atheism, you could have learned for yourself in about 5 minutes of google search. I'm not accusing you of being intellectually lazy, but I find it curious that you would engage in a debate about religion vs atheism without bothering to study the topic. Let me help you:
"Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings. Atheists do not have a common belief system, sacred scripture, elaborate dogma, or atheist Pope. Atheists often disagree on many issues and ideas. Atheists come in a variety of shapes, colors, beliefs, convictions, and backgrounds. We are as unique as our fingerprints."
Sounds a bit like the people who DO believe in god, right? None of them seem to really agree on much, and their religions have been the cause of wars, genocide, murder and mayhem throughout history. In my opinion, it takes a lot more work to defend one's absolute belief in a supernatural being when that "almighty god" has apparently been missing in action for 2,000 + years...
You do have interesting opinions and generalizations.

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You do have interesting opinions and generalizations.
Thank you sir, but the definition of atheism is not an opinion, it is fact. Religionists seem to easily confuse the two.

As for any perceived "generalizations" - in a forum such as this, one is forced to generalize - or summarize - in the interest of brevity. I'd be happy to continue my generalizations with anyone here who isn't simply trolling...
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.........."None of them seem to really agree on much, and their religions have been the cause of wars, genocide, murder and mayhem throughout history. In my opinion, it takes a lot more work to defend one's absolute belief in a supernatural being when that "almighty god" has apparently been missing in action for 2,000 + years..." <yada> <yada> <yada>

Your funny generalizations ;-)

Define your philosophy any way you please.

Troll on as your posts are amusing....

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.........."None of them seem to really agree on much, and their religions have been the cause of wars, genocide, murder and mayhem throughout history. In my opinion, it takes a lot more work to defend one's absolute belief in a supernatural being when that "almighty god" has apparently been missing in action for 2,000 + years..." <yada> <yada> <yada>
Your funny generalizations ;-)
Define your philosophy any way you please.
Troll on as your posts are amusing....
You have the mind of a child who has been held back in school 3-4 years. You bring nothing of interest or usefulness to the debate, so the debate is over.

I'm sure that "amuses" you to no end... like the model glue you're sniffing ;-o
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LCNin wrote:
.........."None of them seem to really agree on much, and their religions have been the cause of wars, genocide, murder and mayhem throughout history. In my opinion, it takes a lot more work to defend one's absolute belief in a supernatural being when that "almighty god" has apparently been missing in action for 2,000 + years..." <yada> <yada> <yada>
Your funny generalizations ;-)
Define your philosophy any way you please.
Troll on as your posts are amusing....
LCNin the Creationist Cult Member trying to talk for god again...*yawn*
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You have the mind of a child who has been held back in school 3-4 years. You bring nothing of interest or usefulness to the debate, so the debate is over.
I'm sure that "amuses" you to no end... like the model glue you're sniffing ;-o
The cult mind is an abused rag - it has no self worth which is why it lies with such free abandon.
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As an object of study, Creationist brainwashing is an interesting subject.
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For those who think that Thanksgiving begins and ends with the big bird and some holiday shopping, we offer this as a reminder. It is President George Washington’s address calling for the nation’s first “public thanksgiving.” Enjoy.
“By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.
“Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor — and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.
“Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be — That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks — for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation — for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war — for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed — for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted — for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
“And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions — to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually — to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed — to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord — To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us — and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
“Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.”
Go. Washington
Idiot Creationist Cult Member, just can't stop spamming can he?
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