An atheist returns to Christ

An atheist returns to Christ

There are 4130 comments on the www.onenewsnow.com story from Jan 27, 2009, titled An atheist returns to Christ. In it, www.onenewsnow.com reports that:

If you've ever wondered how people make the journey from Christianity to atheism and back again, Anne Rice offers some insights based on her own experience. She also has some powerful and moving things to say about what it means to be a Christian in her most recent book, Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession (Knopf, 2008).

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Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#22 Feb 1, 2009
flowery wrote:
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Precisely, you think imagination is a competition. We (christians) won that competition centuries ago.
Our imagination was so powerful, it still exists today.
What do you have to say about that, my competitive little atheist?
You're still in court trying to convince people god doesnt exist. Why don't you do some good in the world instead?
lol...nice try. competitive? yeah so what? its what makes humans succesfull. keeps me ahead of my competitors. feeds my family.

and I see plenty of you believers trying to out-compete each other in your devotion.

your collective xtian imagination dies each time one of you spins some imaginery story about your god. its the same old thing with new wrapping. same old bible nonsense with new spin.

I do do good works, I dont picket people over their ideas and behaviors, but I actually help people, directly. hands on.

I neer try to convince people that a god doesnt exist, what I will do is attack the nonsense (Lies) you folks present as facts and reaosn to believe.

never cared about eople who believe. its when you all try to spew lies as fact when I get involved.
Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#23 Feb 1, 2009
flowery wrote:
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Our imagination was so powerful, it still exists today.
What do you have to say about that, my competitive little atheist?
right, your collective imaginations (delusions) keeps the myths alive.

same thing with UFO believers. collective delusion keeps the myths alive. doesnt make them real.
flowery

UK

#24 Feb 1, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
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so suicide bombing is okay with you?
you love only the voices in your head.
Christian life is precious, why would I want to kill myself? And yes I do love the voices in my head (god) and the voices of all us folk around the world.

Perhaps your problem is that you care too little.
resident

Edison, NJ

#25 Feb 1, 2009
Wayne wrote:
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Sounds to me like you are a little sarcastic smart ass.
Exactly!
Wayne

United States

#26 Feb 1, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
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once again comprehension escapes you.
you have your proof, correct? many believers have their own forms of proof, yes? and they dont match yours, right?
I have mine. its just not yours. its thats simple.
get a clue. think with a few more cells...
Well,,, you just went in circles there..You didn't happen to burn out a few cells did you?
Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#27 Feb 1, 2009
as for the subject of this post. Imet Anee Rice many years ago...by chance. I used to live in New Orleans, was out walking in the garden district where we both lived...and my attnetion was caught bya large german sheperd at the fence of a one of the more beautiful houses. he had a toy in his mouth as was watching me. not one to pass up an opportunity to meet a dog, espec. sheperds (family had them as a child) I went over. we played thru the fence...

long story short it was Rices house. she came out. as did her maid. and I feel Im a good judge of character, on peoples emotional condition.(I credit it to years of travel and having to trust my wits in foreign lands) and we chatted about dogs for a few minutes...very strange, dare I say whacky lady. an artist to be sure. I wouldnt exactly say she was dealing with a full deck. the dog clearly knew, as animals have that sense...had a sort of "get me out of here attitude." ;0

not surprised she has vacillated so much...but her reconversion hardly sways my opinions.

as does no ones. its a personal journey.
Wayne

United States

#28 Feb 1, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
as for the subject of this post. Imet Anee Rice many years ago...by chance. I used to live in New Orleans, was out walking in the garden district where we both lived...and my attnetion was caught bya large german sheperd at the fence of a one of the more beautiful houses. he had a toy in his mouth as was watching me. not one to pass up an opportunity to meet a dog, espec. sheperds (family had them as a child) I went over. we played thru the fence...
long story short it was Rices house. she came out. as did her maid. and I feel Im a good judge of character, on peoples emotional condition.(I credit it to years of travel and having to trust my wits in foreign lands) and we chatted about dogs for a few minutes...very strange, dare I say whacky lady. an artist to be sure. I wouldnt exactly say she was dealing with a full deck. the dog clearly knew, as animals have that sense...had a sort of "get me out of here attitude." ;0
not surprised she has vacillated so much...but her reconversion hardly sways my opinions.
as does no ones. its a personal journey.
Hardly surprises me she may not have been dealing with a full deck,,writing about vampires and satanic stuff like that.
Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#29 Feb 1, 2009
flowery wrote:
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Christian life is precious, why would I want to kill myself? And yes I do love the voices in my head (god) and the voices of all us folk around the world.
Perhaps your problem is that you care too little.
xtian life? only xtian life?

youre drawing a very clear picture of your character, thanks.

I dont differentiate one life from another. all human life is worthy of respect. to a point.

I do care. wish life wan so difficult for so many, but it is...I just cant fix everyone, nor am I delusional to think I can...

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#30 Feb 1, 2009
flowery wrote:
Exactly, there is a god for all you atheists out there. You can't see him, touch him or witness any of his miracles. But if you imagine really, really hard, like how your mother used to read stories to you in bed, he becomes real.
Atheists have no imagination. That's why they're always so grumpy.(that and the fact that my husband and I picket their group meeting every week!)
No imagination,well Anne Rice wrote 21 best seller books as an atheist. The books sher wrote after finding some God got bad reviews and she flipped out.http://karenknowsbest.com/ category/anne-rice/
Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#31 Feb 1, 2009
Wayne wrote:
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Well,,, you just went in circles there..You didn't happen to burn out a few cells did you?
no circle. whats so hard to understand? you have your proof.???

I have yet to see/hear/feel/taste/sense any. how hard is that?

I dont accept your personal proof as proof. simple, yes?

and a circle isnt a bad thing. Im just not chasing other peoples tails (tales) like you do... ;)
Light Sensitive

Bronxville, NY

#32 Feb 1, 2009
Wayne wrote:
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Hardly surprises me she may not have been dealing with a full deck,,writing about vampires and satanic stuff like that.
actually if the dates in the article are correct I met her right on the cusp of reconversion.

so she was going kooky...

and vampires are not satanic...the myth has nothing to do with the devil...if such creatures existed or could exist, the causes would be purely biologic in nature as nearly all the symptoms of vampirism mimic those a perosn infected with rabies. which is probably where the legends derive...undiagnosed/untreated rabies was a big problem in that part of the world...

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

#33 Feb 1, 2009
sunnstorms wrote:
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Jesus is Lord
" I am perfectly fine with that but I would never assume that just because nobody knows the answer it means that some "supreme being" that you can't see, hear or feel, only talked about on a book is the one in control"
And it doen't mean that, just because you can't see Him, touch Him, or hear Him, He doesn't exist.
Even as a Christian, I know that there are, and will be, unanswered questions, but that's ok. He gives me what I NEED to know, when I need to know it. Other than that, why worry? It's no different than you thinking you had to know all the answers while you were a Christian, but now you don't.
There will be unanswered questions, whether you believe or not, so why not at least be able to trust in One higher than yourself in the meantime? Is it easier for you not to believe that you have to answer for your sins / actions?
blessings to you
When I was transitioning between being a Christian to an Atheist there where doubts that maybe he does exist even though I can not see him, hear him or feel him. That tagged along with the fears impossed by the church from the time I was a child where some of the toughest parts that make it very hard to move out of Christianity.

But at the same time there where so many things that I thought where very wrong that the Christian church was doing, things that go against what I see as moral. That is some of the thoughts that helped me go through the process of breaking out of Christianity.

Here is a few things that I find to be wrong from the Christian faith:

1) Religion has a lot to do with where you are in the world, if I was born in Israel I would be a Jew, if I was born in Iran I would believe in Islam, if I was born in Thailand I would be budhist. But then the Christian church told me that those who did not follow the Christian God would be going to hell when they believe on their individual God based on location and culture. So in the Bible theory the same God would be setting this individuals up to automatically go to hell just because of something because of no choice of their own.

2) Im sure most Christians get tired of this example but here it goes again. Anybody who has good friends who are Gay know that Gay is not a choice, this friends of mine already have a hard life because they are Gay, why would anybody choose to live a life where people are treated so bad, they are discriminated, they are attached, they are talked down to. Why would anybody want to do that? I have Gay friends and I will stand on their side for rights. And if I was still a Christian they would probably want me to go against what I can see to be true. If there is a God then this God made them this way, why write in a book that its wrong? That would mean that God either set a certain group up for failure to go to jail for no choice of their own, or that perhaps God has made a mistake.

So I could never follow a religion, which is not based on proof when its teachings go against what I have seen my self to be incorrect teachings in the bible.

Someone on one of this postings wrote: You know God is man made when it hates the same people you do. And its something that made perfect sense, not just for Christianity but for other religions as well.

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

#34 Feb 1, 2009
Jail = Hell, was typing on my blackberry and the spell checker changed the word.

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

#35 Feb 1, 2009
flowery wrote:
Exactly, there is a god for all you atheists out there. You can't see him, touch him or witness any of his miracles. But if you imagine really, really hard, like how your mother used to read stories to you in bed, he becomes real.
Atheists have no imagination. That's why they're always so grumpy.(that and the fact that my husband and I picket their group meeting every week!)
That is a tough one to answer, there is thousands or God's. If you can't see, feel or hear any of them then how can you know you pray to the right one, how do you know you are following the right teachings?

So, if you believe in God you have 1/1000 at least chances of getting it right? Sounds like the lottery, if you choose one of the God out of those thousands then you to either go to heaven, or reincarnate, or one of the many different things that Gods tell you that will happen if you believe in that specific God.

Super complicated, and at least with the lottery you can buy more lottery numbers to increase your odds of winning but can you follow the teachings of multiple Gods in hope one of them is the right God?
Wayne

United States

#36 Feb 1, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
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no circle. whats so hard to understand? you have your proof.???
I have yet to see/hear/feel/taste/sense any. how hard is that?
I dont accept your personal proof as proof. simple, yes?
and a circle isnt a bad thing. Im just not chasing other peoples tails (tales) like you do... ;)
Where is YOUR proof? Except what you THINK?
sunnstorms

Oxford, MS

#37 Feb 1, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
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exactly, why worry? Why worry over the nonexistance of something. much simpler not to worry about something not there.
and dont try to fool me/us that you dont worry about this entity watching over you, maybe poking at you with a stick and wondering why.
as a former believer it was the silly notion that all answers were available from this entity, and worse from that silly book that called it all into question and led me away.
I dont trust in things that dont exist. Why trust in something that isnt involved in anything to begin with...that has no power to deliver change either positive or negative in any form. anything I want (spiritually) or need I already have. its all about how I tap into them...or not.
No, its not about not answering for my sins, because there are no such things as sins. there is nothing I do, or that anyone does that offends any supernatural beings.(because there are none)
the only offenses I may commit are directly towards other humans or my Self. period.
The notion that some superbeing is offended by our puny actions, is the height of egotism. its what gets us in trouble. thinking some superbeing exists and sustains itself on our good behaviors and prayers is absolutely absurd, and self-centered.
human ego in need of a supreme daddy to make love us. please love me daddy, please see how good I am!? save me daddy...! hogwash! all of it.
Jesus is Lord

But I *have** seen God change things for the good. Healing in a man whose family was called in on a Wednesday by the doctors to say goodbye, walked out of the hospital Firday, and went back to work on Monday.

A man whose brain was being held together by a firefighter after a crash with a semi came back to work 2 months later. Minus an eye, and a plate in his face, but he lived.

I was healed from depression after Jesus touched me, and spoke into my ear.

A 7 year old boy who was eviscerated by a seatbelt walked out of the hospital.

A 23 year old man who fell onto a spike which went 6 inches into his brain lived.

A woman fell 30,000 feet when her parachute failed to open, and lived.

How can you say that there wasn't a God when you see people you know, and hear about people you don't know, getting healed, living when no one possibly could have lived?

Since: Feb 09

UK

#38 Feb 1, 2009
sunnstorms wrote:
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Jesus is Lord
But I *have** seen God change things for the good. Healing in a man whose family was called in on a Wednesday by the doctors to say goodbye, walked out of the hospital Firday, and went back to work on Monday.
A man whose brain was being held together by a firefighter after a crash with a semi came back to work 2 months later. Minus an eye, and a plate in his face, but he lived.
I was healed from depression after Jesus touched me, and spoke into my ear.
A 7 year old boy who was eviscerated by a seatbelt walked out of the hospital.
A 23 year old man who fell onto a spike which went 6 inches into his brain lived.
A woman fell 30,000 feet when her parachute failed to open, and lived.
How can you say that there wasn't a God when you see people you know, and hear about people you don't know, getting healed, living when no one possibly could have lived?
Absolutely!!!

I recently went into hospital to have an operation on my eyes (cataracts). When I came round from the anesthetic I could see much more clearly. It was nothing short of a miracle.

Praise be!!!
jimmy

UK

#39 Feb 1, 2009
The Boogyman wrote:
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Absolutely!!!
I recently went into hospital to have an operation on my eyes (cataracts). When I came round from the anesthetic I could see much more clearly. It was nothing short of a miracle.
Praise be!!!
God works in mysterious ways

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

#40 Feb 1, 2009
sunnstorms wrote:
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Jesus is Lord
But I *have** seen God change things for the good. Healing in a man whose family was called in on a Wednesday by the doctors to say goodbye, walked out of the hospital Firday, and went back to work on Monday.
A man whose brain was being held together by a firefighter after a crash with a semi came back to work 2 months later. Minus an eye, and a plate in his face, but he lived.
I was healed from depression after Jesus touched me, and spoke into my ear.
A 7 year old boy who was eviscerated by a seatbelt walked out of the hospital.
A 23 year old man who fell onto a spike which went 6 inches into his brain lived.
A woman fell 30,000 feet when her parachute failed to open, and lived.
How can you say that there wasn't a God when you see people you know, and hear about people you don't know, getting healed, living when no one possibly could have lived?
Those things that can't be explained happen to people of all faiths, happens to Atheists, happens to Muslims, happens to Jews.

Specially it happens to Atheists who do not pray.

At the same time this happens, how do you explain when the total opposite happens, when someone dies for no reason, or for a very small insignificant reason... Oh, right, thats "Gods will"?
flowery

UK

#41 Feb 1, 2009
Of course it's god's will. They died because god had a plan for them in the afterlife. Are you getting this? the people he saved probably sinned and so they dont get to die just yet. It's all quite logical really. Especially if you fill in the gaps a bit.

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