The Death of an Atheist

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“New Kind'a Christian”

Since: Mar 13

New Orleans

#3 Apr 23, 2013
Everything you say is true. I really think it is. But as the Church disintegrates and goes extinct, atheism raises its ugly head.

Atheism is a satanic force intended for no other purpose than to destroy mankind. It is all smoke screens of skepticism, but what it really seeks is the devolution of mankind back into an animal state.

Atheism must be stopped.
Amused

Salem, MA

#4 Apr 23, 2013
Two words: Christopher Hitchens. Died slowly and did not convert or try to convert.

Two more words: David Hume. Ditto.

Many more atheists of no rekown have died lingering deaths without converting or trying to convert. Your assertion to the contrary has no basis in fact.

Your assumption that life is only good if it is eternal is merely a matter of opinion. To me, having an eternity to accomplish things would mean an endless stream of reasons to procrastinate. The knowledge that my time on earth is finite motivates me to make the most of every moment I have. If you do that, you can die content that you lived your life well.

Likewise, your assertions of what's on the other side of the curtain are completely baseless speculation on the inherently unknowable. Your book of fables is no more reliable on the subject of what happens after death than it is on the abilities of snakes, donkeys and burning bushes to speak.

Your argument is only convincing to people who already believe. To those who do not share your unproven assumptions, not so much.
Amused

Salem, MA

#6 Apr 23, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
Everything you say is true. I really think it is. But as the Church disintegrates and goes extinct, atheism raises its ugly head.
Atheism is a satanic force intended for no other purpose than to destroy mankind. It is all smoke screens of skepticism, but what it really seeks is the devolution of mankind back into an animal state.
Atheism must be stopped.
Here it is in small words so maybe you will understand:

Atheists do not think there is a satan either.

Got it?

As far as I can tell, "devolution" is not a part of the evolutionary process. Can you cite a single instance of a species evolving a specific adaptive trait which then disappears? In all known cases, evolution has been a one-way street. In any event, human beings are animals. Highly evolved primates, to be sure, but animals nonetheless. Highly evolved enough that those not under the influence of religious superstition do not wage crusades or jihad, conduct inquisitions or fly airplanes into the sides of tall buildings. Religious zealots do all those things and worse. So, who you callin satanic?

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#7 Apr 23, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
Everything you say is true. I really think it is. But as the Church disintegrates and goes extinct, atheism raises its ugly head.
Atheism is neither ugly nor has a head.
Brother Edward wrote:
Atheism is a satanic force intended for no other purpose than to destroy mankind. It is all smoke screens of skepticism, but what it really seeks is the devolution of mankind back into an animal state.
Atheism must be stopped.
Guess what! Atheists don't subscribe to your mythology of satan either. The only thing needing stopped are purveyors of cults like you, who want to impose their myths on other people, who don't give a damn about your religion. Many of us are living are lives completely without any need of your woo-woo.
Amused

Salem, MA

#8 Apr 23, 2013
Further proof of the crying need for a "judge it" icon of a bat pooping to symbolize "batsh*t crazy".
Amused

Salem, MA

#9 Apr 23, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
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Atheism must be stopped.
How, exactly do you propose to go about stopping it? You have no convincing arguments to convert atheists. Torture and killing was tried during the inquisition. You can force people to say that they believe, but you can't force someone to believe.

As long as people can think, there will always be atheists.Your attempts to hold back the force of reason makes you another little Dutch boy trying to plug the dyke holding back reason. Your dike of superstition has many more holes than you have fingers.
Amused

Salem, MA

#10 Apr 23, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is neither ugly nor has a head.
<quoted text>
Guess what! Atheists don't subscribe to your mythology of satan either. The only thing needing stopped are purveyors of cults like you, who want to impose their myths on other people, who don't give a damn about your religion. Many of us are living are lives completely without any need of your woo-woo.
Atheism has a head. It has many. Atheists actually use the contents of their heads. That's why we ARE atheists. ;)

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#11 Apr 23, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Atheism has a head. It has many. Atheists actually use the contents of their heads. That's why we ARE atheists. ;)
So true.
CunningLinguist

Lady Lake, FL

#12 Apr 23, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
Everything you say is true. I really think it is. But as the Church disintegrates and goes extinct, atheism raises its ugly head.
Atheism is a satanic force intended for no other purpose than to destroy mankind. It is all smoke screens of skepticism, but what it really seeks is the devolution of mankind back into an animal state.
Atheism must be stopped.
CANNOT BE STOPPED :-)

Then let me share the good news with you. Here's where secular humanism will take you, given the chance. Will you support this or fight it?:

THE AFFIRMATIONS OF HUMANISM: A STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES

http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php...

[1] We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.

[2] We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, explain the world in supernatural terms, and look outside nature for salvation.

[3] We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.

[4] We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.

[5] We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.

[6] We [prefer] negotiation and compromise to [resolve] differences and achiev[e] mutual understanding.

[7] We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.

[8] We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.

[9] We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on [prejudices] and strive to work together for the common good.

[10] We want to protect, preserve and enhance the earth, and avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.

[11] We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.

[12] We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.

[13] Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.

[14] We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. Together we discover normative standards tested by their consequences.

[15] We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.

[16] We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.

[17] We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.

[18] We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas.

[19] We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.

[20] We believe in optimism, hope, learning, truth, joy, tolerance, love, compassion, beauty, and reason rather than pessimism, despair, dogma, ignorance, guilt or sin, fear, hatred, selfishness, ugliness, and blind, irrational faith.

[21] We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#13 Apr 23, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
CANNOT BE STOPPED :-)
Then let me share the good news with you. Here's where secular humanism will take you, given the chance. Will you support this or fight it?:
THE AFFIRMATIONS OF HUMANISM: A STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php...
[1] We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.
[2] We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, explain the world in supernatural terms, and look outside nature for salvation.
[3] We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.
[4] We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.
[5] We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.
[6] We [prefer] negotiation and compromise to [resolve] differences and achiev[e] mutual understanding.
[7] We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.
[8] We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.
[9] We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on [prejudices] and strive to work together for the common good.
[10] We want to protect, preserve and enhance the earth, and avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.
[11] We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.
[12] We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.
[13] Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.
[14] We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. Together we discover normative standards tested by their consequences.
[15] We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
[16] We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.
[17] We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.
[18] We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas.
[19] We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.
[20] We believe in optimism, hope, learning, truth, joy, tolerance, love, compassion, beauty, and reason rather than pessimism, despair, dogma, ignorance, guilt or sin, fear, hatred, selfishness, ugliness, and blind, irrational faith.
[21] We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.
I hope everyone will notice the positiveness of the above 21 statements. Contrast that with the negativity of the Cult Leader who started this thread. You can further contrast these 21 positive statements with his myth's book(buybull) full of god sponsored genocide, homicide, rape, condoned slavery, and other immoral acts.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#15 Apr 23, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
Everything you say is true. I really think it is. But as the Church disintegrates and goes extinct, atheism raises its ugly head.
Atheism is a satanic force intended for no other purpose than to destroy mankind. It is all smoke screens of skepticism, but what it really seeks is the devolution of mankind back into an animal state.
Atheism must be stopped.
Then stop having children.

There is no belief system in not being, a non theist. An atheist is simply someone who has not yet or may never be indoctrinated. We adult avowed non-believers are only known as atheist, because we lack theism.

Your group can count both Paganism and Satanism as part of who you are, believers and theist

“New Kind'a Christian”

Since: Mar 13

New Orleans

#16 Apr 24, 2013
Amused wrote:
Your assumption that life is only good if it is eternal is merely a matter of opinion. To me, having an eternity to accomplish things would mean an endless stream of reasons to procrastinate. The knowledge that my time on earth is finite motivates me to make the most of every moment I have. If you do that, you can die content that you lived your life well.
That's garbage. Because the very life you hold so dear, if there is no eternal life is the same as a life that has never existed--even worse, because at the very end of it, the only life-lesson is loss and the realization that it would be better to have never been born.

Br. Edward
http://veridicanblog.org

“New Kind'a Christian”

Since: Mar 13

New Orleans

#17 Apr 24, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
Guess what! Atheists don't subscribe to your mythology of satan either.
Satan isn't a myth. Satan is a spiritual entity created by God to run counter to the power of Christ in the world. You don't have to believe in Satan. In fact, the force of Satan is such that it blinds you to its presence.

If you are an atheist; you are a satanist. You don't have to want to be, and you don't have to believe you are. That is completely irrelevant.

Faith is not required for Satan to do his work.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18 Apr 24, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan isn't a myth. Satan is a spiritual entity created by God to run counter to the power of Christ in the world. You don't have to believe in Satan. In fact, the force of Satan is such that it blinds you to its presence.
If you are an atheist; you are a satanist. You don't have to want to be, and you don't have to believe you are. That is completely irrelevant.
Faith is not required for Satan to do his work.
Hey! <knocking on the glass in front of the idiot> Stupid!

Telling an atheist that he's going to hell--or worse, telling an atheist that she's "a tool of satan"?

Is the >>exact<< same thing as someone telling YOU that if you DO NOT put your tooth under the pillow, the TOOTH FAIRY WILL MAKE MORE TEETH FALL OUT.

Then again, you ARE quite stupid.

Maybe you DO believe in the tooth fairy after all...!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#19 Apr 24, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
Your blog has been deleted.(the link is dead)

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#20 Apr 24, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
<quoted text>
That's garbage. Because the very life you hold so dear, if there is no eternal life is the same as a life that has never existed--even worse, because at the very end of it, the only life-lesson is loss and the realization that it would be better to have never been born.
Br. Edward
http://veridicanblog.org
So, you believe in an after life because you love life so much you can't bear the thought of losing it. Guess you don't listen to your Jesus:

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

Besides which, I don't know about you, but I would choose a meaningful death, i.e. giving my life for a cause I truly believe in, or to protect my family or my country over a meaningless clinging to a life withering away in a nursing home, living in misery or in the oblivion of dementia simply for the sake of saying I am drawing another breath.

Living life fully involves taking chances. There's a passage by Hunter S. Thompson readily available through Google about riding a motorcycle and pushing it to the very edge of control. Right out there, at that edge, is where life is at its most intense. If you are afraid to die, you are also, necessarily, afraid to really live. As the Buddha said, "live like your hair is on fire".

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#21 Apr 24, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan isn't a myth. Satan is a spiritual entity created by God to run counter to the power of Christ in the world. You don't have to believe in Satan. In fact, the force of Satan is such that it blinds you to its presence.
If you are an atheist; you are a satanist. You don't have to want to be, and you don't have to believe you are. That is completely irrelevant.
Faith is not required for Satan to do his work.
Nice attempt at a Straw Man argument. But epic fail, Again!

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#22 Apr 24, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan isn't a myth. Satan is a spiritual entity created by God to run counter to the power of Christ in the world. You don't have to believe in Satan. In fact, the force of Satan is such that it blinds you to its presence.
If you are an atheist; you are a satanist. You don't have to want to be, and you don't have to believe you are. That is completely irrelevant.
Faith is not required for Satan to do his work.
^^^^^ The Veridican Delusion ^^^^^

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#23 Apr 24, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
^^^^^ The Veridican Delusion ^^^^^
Thanks! Google has given an amusing thread about that very thing, here: " http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Threa... ;

Too funny!

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#26 Apr 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks! Google has given an amusing thread about that very thing, here: " http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Threa... ;
Too funny!
Love the comment from your link:

"I typed 'Veridican' into Wikipedia to learn more about the sect. It returned the following:

Sorry,your search for 'Veridican' could not be found. It may be a term someone pulled straight out of their ass."

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